Do nice guys finish last?

The word nice guy to me, is somebody who's nice who likes helping you out and stuff. Not shy. There usually good with ladys, but don't go around slapping there asses. More like hey lets go out for a meal sometime. usually with nice guys girl asks the guy to have sex, not the guy, so not to push it. Thats a nice guy
 
pomegranate said:
I guess I take a certain impression from when you post in politics threads.

I'm sure people get the same impression from me, too... but I'm the kindest guy you'll ever meet, when you're on my very good side.
 
pomegranate said:
I guess I take a certain impression from when you post in politics threads.
Haha I don't talk about politics all too often in real life outside of when someone brings it up specificially. I'm just agressive about it when I do. It's more on the internets than in person.
 
From wikipedia.

The "nice guy" is typically a pleasant, intelligent and highly considerate male and with low or misguided confidence (especially with women). These traits often lead to afflicted men being a very good listener, and articulate and expressive speakers. They are also more negatively polite than their peers. Such men are often frustrated, if not indignant, about their romantic trouble.

There...the nice guy syndrome is the pathetic guy we are talking about...not a person who isn't an asshole to women.
 
I'm guessing this thread is a bunch of people pretending to be experts on the subject.
 
theSteven said:
I'm guessing this thread is a bunch of people pretending to be experts on the subject.
For you is Venus, I am Mars...
 
theSteven said:
I'm guessing this thread is a bunch of people pretending to be experts on the subject.

And the prize for most useless contribution goes to....!!
 
pomegranate said:
And the prize for most useless contribution goes to....!!
:)
No, but he is absolutely right, by the very definition of "nice guy", when you ask for advice, the "nice guys" are going to be the ones to answer. They are articulate and are good listeners and quickly offer their advice. So you are getting advice on women from the guys who are single. LOL

Of course, maybe they can tell you what didn't work for them, so maybe "nice guys" do have good advice on girls ;)
 
VirusType2 said:
:)
No, but he is absolutely right, by the very definition of "nice guy", when you ask for advice, the "nice guys" are going to be the ones to answer. They are articulate and are good listeners and quickly offer their advice. So you are getting advice on women from the guys who are single. LOL

That might be true, but on the other hand, wouldn't the non-nice guys give advice in a way that it wouldn't be taken, i.e. 'what's wrong with you you fscking loser, get a grip' - which would probably annoy your average 'nice guy' into totally ignoring brutal, if pragmatic, advice. So... catch-22?
 
VirusType2 said:
:)
No, but he is absolutely right, by the very definition of "nice guy", when you ask for advice, the "nice guys" are going to be the ones to answer. They are articulate and are good listeners and quickly offer their advice. So you are getting advice on women from the guys who are single. LOL

Of course, maybe they can tell you what didn't work for them, so maybe "nice guys" do have good advice on girls ;)
Except like was said earlier, nice guy is a synonym for someone who doesn't take the initiative. That's definately a minority of people- at least in relationship issues (a lot of people won't with money, work, etc)
 
ríomhaire said:
In my bed :naughty:

6/10

A better answer would have been 'on top'. It still has the sexual element but it doesn't make you out to have some sort of irresistible appeal.
 
Either way, I should've seen that coming...
 
I give good advice & I'm articulate, but I sure as hell ain't a pushover, I'm a natural leader and very very very confident.

To the point of arrogance, say the people who don't like me :)
 
I'm nice but I don't finish last, I've said eff girls, mostly because around here all they want to do is cause drama. I hate that shit, and will not stand for it.
 
DiSTuRbEd said:
I'm nice but I don't finish last, I've said eff girls, mostly because around here all they want to do is cause drama. I hate that shit, and will not stand for it.

Have a seat maybe?
 
It's not a case of being "nice" or "nasty". It's about ruthlessness. Apathetic people finish last. Those willing to bend the rules a little (which has no real bearing on whether you're nice or not) will come first.

-Angry Lawyer
 
Raziaar said:
But it's labelled on anybody who isn't an asshole to women.

Hmmm. I wouldn't say so. More to people who don't have the courage to be assholes to women.
 
Angry Lawyer said:
It's not a case of being "nice" or "nasty". It's about ruthlessness. Apathetic people finish last. Those willing to bend the rules a little (which has no real bearing on whether you're nice or not) will come first.

-Angry Lawyer
Should it not be apathetic people finish first.
 
Narcolepsy said:

So take this real life situation.

There's a girl in my calc class who's a cool person, but can't do math at all. Sometimes she'll come to my friend and be like "hey can I see how you did this problem" and he'll say something like "yeah of course" and get his math stuff and give her the book.

When she asks me for help and I can't be arsed to get all my stuff I'll say something like "Not if you're too stupid to figure it out yourself" and half-ass an explanation.

1. Guess who she's much closer with.
2. Guess who helps helps her better understand math.

Yez?

My friend is really shy and is scared of what would happen if he ever said anythign mean to a girl. This happens all the time to him.
 
NotATool said:
So take this real life situation.

There's a girl in my calc class who's a cool person, but can't do math at all. Sometimes she'll come to my friend and be like "hey can I see how you did this problem" and he'll say something like "yeah of course" and get his math stuff and give her the book.

When she asks me for help and I can't be arsed to get all my stuff I'll say something like "Not if you're too stupid to figure it out yourself" and half-ass an explanation.

1. Guess who she's much closer with.
2. Guess who helps helps her better understand math.

Yez?

My friend is really shy and is scared of what would happen if he ever said anythign mean to a girl. This happens all the time to him.
So what you're saying is that your username is horribly inaccurate.
 
NotATool said:
So take this real life situation.

There's a girl in my calc class who's a cool person, but can't do math at all. Sometimes she'll come to my friend and be like "hey can I see how you did this problem" and he'll say something like "yeah of course" and get his math stuff and give her the book.

When she asks me for help and I can't be arsed to get all my stuff I'll say something like "Not if you're too stupid to figure it out yourself" and half-ass an explanation.

1. Guess who she's much closer with.
2. Guess who helps helps her better understand math.

Yez?

My friend is really shy and is scared of what would happen if he ever said anythign mean to a girl. This happens all the time to him.

Neither of you have much of a chance at her. Not counting looks...your an ass to her and he is playing the nice guy role. He isn't a challenge to her, that lowers interest, he already treats her special...and everyone else so she won't feel special with him.
 
Angry Lawyer said:
Not really. They can't be assed to finish at all.

-Angry Lawyer
Oh that way, I was thinking more in the lines of emotionaly apathetic. You know like do not care weather or not they hurt people to get to their goal, have no moral doubt about cheating or lying to people.
 
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That's a really shitty way to act towards someone.
 
I LOVE you, Qonfused and Narco :D :D :D

Anyway, what I was gonna say is: women know that good men do finish last :naughty:
 
Qonfused is an ignorant fool ;).

Anyhow. Unfortunately "nice guy" is a subjective term. Yeah doormats are much less likely to get anywhere but if you are not one then you can still "finish last".

A nice guy definition in this context doesnt really mean a nice person, it means a nice person with the doormat personality and some other complexities such as coyness (in this context trying to postpone sex for love).
 
Qonfused said:
That's a really shitty way to act towards someone.

Even if it helps them learn more in the end?

Kind of like tough love I guess.
 
JNightshade said:
Anyway, what I was gonna say is: women know that good men do finish last :naughty:

Nope... Great men finish at the exact same moment.
 
^_^

You judgamental fools.

If she copied homework all her life she wouldn't understand math at all, I actually help her, and we're really good friends. Obviously I don't treat her like shit 100% of the time.

If you let her copy your homework, you're the tool.
 
NotATool said:
^_^

You judgamental fools.

If she copied homework all her life she wouldn't understand math at all, I actually help her, and we're really good friends. Obviously I don't treat her like shit 100% of the time.

If you let her copy your homework, you're the tool.

You don't have to treat her like shit any of the time.

You CAN be indifferent though. It'll have a better effect.
 
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