Do you believe in the Death Penalty?

Absinthe said:
Stop putting drug users in prison. That should solve the problem. Then you can shove all the murderers and rapists you want into concrete cells.

Yeah. They should just execute them, those cancerous materials of society.
 
Jintor said:
I really hope you're joking.

Do soldiers, political prisoners, government killers etc. count? Traitors? Frauds?
No, just killers, rapists, child molesters, people that like president bush, and traitors.
 
They should implement some sort of house arrest policy where that person couldn't leave his or her house, or have any visitors. They would have to develope some sort of new technology though, like shock ankle braclets, that wouldn't let that person leave their house. The problem with this though would be that the person would contribute absolutely nothing to society where as a prison inmate makes liscense plates and what not. They would absolutely leech of the system.
 
No, just killers, rapists, child molesters, people that like president bush, and traitors.

Now, technically, aren't people who don't like Bush traitors?
 
If a person is convicted of a horrible crime he should suffer a harsh punishment. Now if said person is convicted, but there exists a possible slight shred of doubt (not reasonable doubt, if it were reasonable doubt he wouldn't be convicted), that person should get life in jail.

However if it is plain as day obvious that said person commited a heinous crime, i.e. caught attempting to kidnap some kid, dead kids found in his freezer back home. Then fry that sucker
 
swiss said:
I dont.
Just want to know other peoples views.
If you dont, then you must take the view that the Nazi war criminals should not have been executed. Something some people would disagree with.
Depends.
I only believe execution if the person did something bad (Not the nazis, I bet most of them were just scared, so they joined the Nazis instead of being tortured the rest of their lives, I don't blame 'em, We all woulda probably did that.)
But say, on TLC, they had a pyschic witness thing, (Using this as an example) one kid got beat continually then ran over, I think that requires execution for the people who didn't plead guilty, and felt truely sorry, though, thats my opinion. One guy did get a death execution, though, not much other reasons to do so.
 
Sulkdodds said:
Now, technically, aren't people who don't like Bush traitors?

Yes...now die sulk...and die everyone else because we all(or most everyone) falls into one of those categories. Sulk falling into the rapist category...or as he calls is "Suprise sex"

The death penalty can be bad when people are wrongfully put to death. Well people are also wrongfully put in jail for life. I would rather die than rot in a jailcell having to think about what I did knowing the only escape out of there is death.

There are also many cases with child molestors getting released early...on bail and what not. There are many horrible cases of awful people like that getting back into society so people(aka liberals) can try to "save" that person and treat them...until they murder/rape someone else and get put back in jail.

IMO if someone has commited enough crimes and has proven they are an untreatable harm to society then you might as well get it over with. If they didn't want to die then they shouldn't have commited crimes over and over again that can warrant the death penalty(or life in jail). Their choice to commit the crimes, so too bad if they get capital punishment.
 
Ive never really bought into the concept of "justice". I don't feel that one should be caused to suffer for a wrongdoing. Using pain to teach someone can be necessary, as in sending a child to their room. This helps create an ethical citizenry, which helps society. It can be used to physically restrain people. Taking serial murderers off the street helps society. It might act as a deterrent, but I'd be surprised if it were a significant factor.

Generally, it seems dangerous to me when government sets morality. Its role in my mind is to keep society stable, not set moral principles (unless perhaps they help society, which it seems they do in general), especially when they touch on the theological.
 
spookymooky said:
Ive never really bought into the concept of "justice". I don't feel that one should be caused to suffer for a wrongdoing. Using pain to teach someone can be necessary, as in sending a child to their room. This helps create an ethical citizenry, which helps society. It can be used to physically restrain people. Taking serial murderers off the street helps society. It might act as a deterrent, but I'd be surprised if it were a significant factor.

Generally, it seems dangerous to me when government sets morality. Its role in my mind is to keep society stable, not set moral principles (unless perhaps they help society, which it seems they do in general), especially when they touch on the theological.

I agree that negative reinforcement for criminals isn't the ebst. Positive reinforcement has proven to be a better method for reinforcing rules and what not...but how are we supposed to positively enforce the rules? Hand out cookies to people who don't commit crimes?
 
We have a horrible justice system, we need to have some kinda remake, they go to jail then kill some more people once they get out, or they get executed for a fake reason.
 
Yeah it is pretty bad. I would like to see a perfect system that could fix all of this but I don't see that anytime soon so we have to make due with what we have. Honestly our system does very very good. There are the occasional mess ups where people are wrongfully commited or some horrible person gets out. There will always be mistakes and theres nothing we can do about it really. We just have to try and lessen them and lessen the severity.
 
drug sellers = yes
child rapists = yeah
war prisoners = ummm, it depends
traitors = yes
president bush = nvm
 
The point is that if your sentenced to death, and your innocent then there is no way of repaying that person back for what the state has done. Also once people are executed, rarely is it later found out that the person was innocent (because no1 checks for a dead person)

If you just imprison people for life, then if they are innocent then lawyers can build up cases to prove their innocence of more evidence becomes available.
If they are found actually to be innocent then they can be released and and least have SOME of their life back (as well as hefty compensation from the government). That is better than having ur whole life taken away for nothing.
 
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