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Oh, it doesn't move back and forth and grab objects and push players? Silly me.MaxiKana said:
And I guess we can't count the Jedi Knight games that have the force push and pull features either then...
Doom 3 expansion... shamelessly rips off HL2.
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And I guess we can't count the Jedi Knight games that have the force push and pull features either then...
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If Id was creative they would have given the weapon the codename 'Hand of God'. It would've had the ability to grab and crush objects(organic or inorganic). To balance it out, it would have a limited power supply. It would look like a metallic, cybernetic gauntlet on screen. Oh and when it crushes enemies, blood and giblets would squirt out of the body.
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You must admit though, he's also damn good at building game engines.
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HalfLife2Addict said:
Nowhere near as stupid as you, when you miss the point.
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Eon Blue said:
What on earth are you talking about you moron.
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xtremdys said:
Sorry but I honestly cannot see the resemblance between the two...
Yes Id did copy off of HL2 and yes, it is n00b. An idea like jet jaguar's would be much better and much less obvious.
riceandpeas said:
Developers taking ideas from other games is bad....
Developers taking ideas from other games and EXPANDING on them is good...
From the sounds of it ID is doing the former... which doesn't really suprise me as other than the new graphics engine, Doom3 didn't really have anything new to boast about...
The guys at Valve put just as much effort into actual gameplay as they did the graphics engine, thats why HL2 is so much more entertaining to play than Doom3...
Eon Blue said:
....And a perfect example of pointless crap is the useless post you just made...
HL2 physics rip off life?? You've got to be kidding me... you just said that so you'd sound like you knew something intelligent right?
Miker75 said:
You're the one who comes off sounding like a moron here. He's basically stating that there's no point in arguing about what games rip off what because everything, in reality, is based upon something else.
Go and learn what sarcasm is.
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xtremdys said:
I'm a bit confused about why you linked a grappling hook mod for quake 2 (ignoring the ones for quake 1) that lets you move around the level structure in a thread about interacting with physics objects.
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Painkiller had a weapon that yanked ragdolls toward the player, and used the Havoc physics engine. It was out before HL2 and Doom 3.
Not that that really matters; since ID pretty much started a new genre and the original Half Life used Quake's engine as a basis, I could say that Half Life 2 stole the whole first person shooter idea from ID... but then I would be being childish and petty, wouldn't I?
Not that that really matters; since ID pretty much started a new genre and the original Half Life used Quake's engine as a basis, I could say that Half Life 2 stole the whole first person shooter idea from ID... but then I would be being childish and petty, wouldn't I?
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It might have yanked stuff, but was it really useful or innovative? Did it use the enviroment as a weapon? Was it useful for puzzle solving and creative expression?
See even if HL2 took it, they expanded the idea so much that it's simply not painkillers choppy thing.
Now Doom 3 is just taking HL2's weapon and porting it over with a new model.
See even if HL2 took it, they expanded the idea so much that it's simply not painkillers choppy thing.
Now Doom 3 is just taking HL2's weapon and porting it over with a new model.
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Hell yeah it was useful. Innovative? Gave the player a greater range of interacting with the environment, which was fun, so I would say so. It was not only good for killing enemies, but there were quite a few objects in the world (like wooden wagons) you could knock around. I'm not exactly sure how interaction with physics is creative expression, so I'm not sure how to answer that one.
That's not to put Valve down, they did innovative things with HL2, just like they did with the first one. ID continues to put out engines that push the envelope of new technologies, but their gameplay is getting stale.
Funny thing, the Vagary boss in D3 has a built in gravity gun - she can pick up physics objects in the environment and hurl them at the player. Not sure why they didn't give the player a similar weapon in the first place; the code was there, I guess Carmack was just being stubborn as he said he wasn't getting into the "physics hype." I guess they are finally giving in and listening to the fans with the expansion - most of the additions in D3:RoE are stuff fans have already made mods for or have cried out to be implemented.
That's not to put Valve down, they did innovative things with HL2, just like they did with the first one. ID continues to put out engines that push the envelope of new technologies, but their gameplay is getting stale.
Funny thing, the Vagary boss in D3 has a built in gravity gun - she can pick up physics objects in the environment and hurl them at the player. Not sure why they didn't give the player a similar weapon in the first place; the code was there, I guess Carmack was just being stubborn as he said he wasn't getting into the "physics hype." I guess they are finally giving in and listening to the fans with the expansion - most of the additions in D3:RoE are stuff fans have already made mods for or have cried out to be implemented.
