Doom movie back to hell story.

ummm... do they have old info?
of course, if this is true, there's still some hope
 
Perhaps a diversion??

Maybe we were told they were making the premise of the movie different from the game to lower expectations but were actually making it like the game the whole time???

My guess is that gamespot hasn't a clue what's going on.
 
If its back to normal then theyve done the right choice. If its not then...well, lets just hope it will be good.
 
Wait for the trailers TBH

Although the Rock does make a good DOOM Marine!
 
Sadly, even if it is about Mars/Hell, it's still going to suck.
 
hmm so the rock isn't gonna be the main star of it afterall?, he's gonna be what turned into a tank in the game.. cool. Kinda like him in the mummy returns, the CG doing all the acting for him ;)
 
I can't help but think that this is just another case of Gamespot getting it's facts wrong.
 
If the movie is not like the story of Doom3, I will riot outside of the theatre and cry.
 
kupoartist said:
Sadly, even if it is about Mars/Hell, it's still going to suck.
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It's comments like this that probobly aided in their decision to use a different premise in the movie. They understand that it's impossible to meet expectations so they just say what's the difference....just make whatever the hell you want and call it Doom.

Why don't you wait until you see it before you dub it as shit?
 
Lt. Drebin said:
Why don't you wait until you see it before you dub it as shit?
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Even if it wasn't a Video Game license, even if it wasn't staffed and casted by a distinct group of "meh/bleh" individuals and even if they hadn't totally changed basic aspects of the license (if they have - who knows anymore?) A Hollywood made, genre staple action movie is never going to be special, and there is a 95% chance that it's going to suck a big one. If this movie becomes anything but a critical flop - and bare in mind, that critics couldn't give two shits as to the license and will judge it as "just another action film" - I will set a knife and fork to my right butt-cheek and have a tasty ham sandwich.
Lt. Drebin said:
It's comments like this that probobly aided in their decision to use a different premise in the movie. They understand that it's impossible to meet expectations so they just say what's the difference....just make whatever the hell you want and call it Doom.
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Does it make any kind of logical sense to say "we're never going to meet expectations, so lets do the total opposite and fall so short of expectations that it really wasn't worth us buying the license up anyway"?
 
I kinda wish that they wouldn't have made this movie. DOOM deserves the best story/script and talent that Hollywood has to offer. I'll still check it out when it hits theaters though.
 
kupoartist said:
Even if it wasn't a Video Game license, even if it wasn't staffed and casted by a distinct group of "meh/bleh" individuals and even if they hadn't totally changed basic aspects of the license (if they have - who knows anymore?) A Hollywood made, genre staple action movie is never going to be special, and there is a 95% chance that it's going to suck a big one. If this movie becomes anything but a critical flop - and bare in mind, that critics couldn't give two shits as to the license and will judge it as "just another action film" - I will set a knife and fork to my right butt-cheek and have a tasty ham sandwich.
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That's a nice rant, but you still haven't seen it. You don't know how well acted or written it was, you don't know of any of the other critical aspects that may contribute to its success and yet you label it as just another action movie that will never be successful or special. But let's keep this ludicrous discussion about how good a movie is that not one human being except for the editing staff, director and a few select others have seen and I'll keep replying: "you still haven't seen the movie". It's difficult enough as it is to make a movie such as Doom without people like yourself pissing on it 5-6 months before it comes out. Why don't you give it a chance?

The movie will be screened and reviewed upon release. But as far as you're concerned, the movie has already had it's fate sealed and delivered. That's complete rubbish. Furthermore, I and others couldn't care less what a critic has to say about most movies....I prefer to judge for myself. That being said, still, let's not call a move a critical flop before it's screened and reviewed. I do love an underdog though...see HellBoy and Pitch Black...both pissed on prior to release and were a surprising critical success.

kupoartist said:
Does it make any kind of logical sense to say "we're never going to meet expectations, so lets do the total opposite and fall so short of expectations that it really wasn't worth us buying the license up anyway"?
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No it makes little sense, but since that reason was used by the director himself, I'll leave that up in the air. He said that one of the reasons he changed the premise of the movie was because he knew there was no way he would meet anyone's expections for the movie....so instead of trying to recreate DOOM he claims to want to give a Doom-like experience at the movies....an expansion of the Doom universe.

http://filmforce.ign.com/doom/articles/574/574326p1.html

Seems that it is a move to lower expectations and hopefully make a movie that proceeds to exceed those now lowered expectations. I could honestly care less. I'm, however, going to wait to make my decision on whether or not it is a good movie as opposed to calling it genre trash and a critical flop right now.
 
Lt. Drebin said:
No it makes little sense, but since that reason was used by the director himself, I'll leave that up in the air.
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Lt. Drebin said:
But let's keep this ludicrous discussion about how good a movie is that not one human being except for the editing staff, director and a few select others have seen and I'll keep replying: "you still haven't seen the movie".
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It's a shame you don't have the gift of basic human foresight. Someone says "lets go and see a film about a bucket full of horse piss", and I know what to expect before I walk into the cinema. Someone says "Lets go see a Hollywood action film made by a guy who gives up on a license just because he can, starring the rock and converted from a video game" and I know that i'm going to see a touching biopic about a horse pissing in a bucket.
 
kupoartist said:
It's a shame you don't have the gift of basic human foresight. Someone says "lets go and see a film about a bucket full of horse piss", and I know what to expect before I walk into the cinema. Someone says "Lets go see a Hollywood action film made by a guy who gives up on a license just because he can, starring the rock and converted from a video game" and I know that i'm going to see a touching biopic about a horse pissing in a bucket.
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Look. Don't be a pretentious turd and tell me I lack foresight or don't know what kind of movies I enjoy seeing. I never said I saw it as being a critical success, but I'm not the moron that's going to take the advice of 1) someone I don't know and 2)someone that has different tastes in movies than that of mine. If it's a bad movie, I'll gladly say so. You apparently know the movie is complete shit, so you get to save $10 on a ticket and the embarrasment of possibly proving yourself wrong.

The simple fact that you haven't seen the movie still renders you argument rubbish and at best PURE speculation. Saying you expect little from this movie is different than calling it shit before you have seen it. That has nothing to do with foresight. That's an assumption that is not based in reality. I'm not arguing whather or not it's going to be a good movie, just that a reservation of judgment is the fair thing to do for a movie that's no doubt going to be under extreme scrutiny. Let's just drop it, I'm not going to debate the quality of a movie that hasn't been seen by either of us.
 
Lt. Drebin said:
You apparently know the movie is complete shit, so you get to save $10 on a ticket and the embarrasment of possibly proving yourself wrong.
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Actually, I'm probably going to go and see it anyway.

Yeah I know, that makes no sense :P
 
I am almost positive that this movie will totally suck.

However, if there is a movie that is based on a video game, where the story is faithful to the game's story, and it is actually good, then I would expect that this would be the movie to do it.
 
kupoartist said:
Sadly, even if it is about Mars/Hell, it's still going to suck.
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ahhh what optimism!

Frankly, as long as it's rated R, and sticks to the DOOM plot, we are guarenteed a bloody, profane, eye-candy filled, demon slaughterfest, and frankly I'll wanna check it out!
 
kmack said:
Frankly, as long as it's rated R, and sticks to the DOOM plot, we are guarenteed a bloody, profane, eye-candy filled, demon slaughterfest, and frankly I'll wanna check it out!
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All I have to say is:
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kmack said:
ahhh what optimism!

Frankly, as long as it's rated R, and sticks to the DOOM plot, we are guarenteed a bloody, profane, eye-candy filled, demon slaughterfest, and frankly I'll wanna check it out!
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The Rock confirmed that it does indeed have the "R" rating. He mentioned it in his Daily Show interview last week. Good news in my opinion. He called the movie "unforgiving" and said "he gets to blow a lot of shit up". Sounds like some good ol' Doom to me.
 
If this movie has the story of doom III, I would almost be willing to bet my life saving it will suck. 90% of the complaints about this game were its sad almost non existing story.
 
kupoartist said:
Actually, I'm probably going to go and see it anyway.

Yeah I know, that makes no sense :P
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Yeah....same here.

Even if my friends say it's complete shit, I'd still be interested in seeing how bad they managed to f#$k the movie up.....kind of like my interest in the Resident Evil series when everyone said it was just an awful movie. God damn you Paul Anderson. :angry:
 
Smack500 said:
If this movie has the story of doom III, I would almost be willing to bet my life saving it will suck. 90% of the complaints about this game were its sad almost non existing story.
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I wouldn't call it nonexistant. Thin at times, but it was still a great game. :thumbs:
 
It was a decent shooter, with great graphics, good gameplay, and lame story. Nothing else nothing more.
 
I don't see why anyone cares so much about the Doom story. It's just your standard sci-fi action movie/game fluff story that only has one purpose - to push you along to the next area where shit will get blown up. To do a faithful Doom movie, pretty much any story they pull out of their ass will work, it's not like this is some highly intellectual game here.

They're not making the MGS movie and replacing Russians with teletubbies, they're making the Doom movie and (maybe) replacing demons with crazy ass infected humans. It doesn't matter, it serves the same purpose, The Rock would run around shooting at stuff either way.

I love the guy that said something along the lines of "Doom deserves the best screenwriter and director." No it doesn't. All the Doom movie needs to do to be at least as good as the game is provide a lot of mindless action and a few cheap scares, thats all it could ever be.
 
I will go see it. And to tell you the truth, I think it will be a great movie. Because they're making it like the game, not a cheap movie version like they had planned to do.
 
I agree with scott, its not much of a story. Its going to be another shoot em up action movie, where the main character is doing it to save the world/universe. If you like big time action movies, with alot of special effects, and stuff getting blown up then youll like it, otherwise you wont. I dont need to see anything to know this.
 
While watching the resident evil movies is entertaining once or twice, those movies pretty much weren't special at all. Same goes for Final Fantasy movie.

Can't expect too much I guess, I'm sure it will be great to watch once, regardless how true it is to the game.
 
Smack500 said:
It was a decent shooter, with great graphics, good gameplay, and lame story. Nothing else nothing more.
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Why do you think it's lame?? Honestly, I've never heard anyone say that before.

From most people, you hear about gameplay elements that fell short in their opinion....I'm sure there are people that don't like the story, but I've heard nothing of it.
 
Theres not much dialog, theres definately nothing surprising. I could go on, but I know Im not the only one, who didnt like the story. WHen it first came out dozens of people on here complained about it.
 
Lt. Drebin said:
Why do you think it's lame?? Honestly, I've never heard anyone say that before.

From most people, you hear about gameplay elements that fell short in their opinion....I'm sure there are people that don't like the story, but I've heard nothing of it.
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People don't complain about it because they never expected it to be good. It's not Doom's selling point. People usually don't watch Van Damme and Swarchenegger (sp?) movies because of their deep and involving plots. The Doom story did everything it was supposed to: give you a reason to shoot at stuff.

I didn't think anyone would actually defend the games story. Scientists open up portal to hell, demons run through portal, badass space marine shoots at demons.
 
smwScott said:
People don't complain about it because they never expected it to be good. It's not Doom's selling point. People usually don't watch Van Damme and Swarchenegger (sp?) movies because of their deep and involving plots. The Doom story did everything it was supposed to: give you a reason to shoot at stuff.

I didn't think anyone would actually defend the games story. Scientists open up portal to hell, demons run through portal, badass space marine shoots at demons.
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I'm not defending it, but quite frankly I don't find it any worse than any other shooter's storyline out there. And you're right, I didn't play the game for the story, I played it to enjoy a fine PC game.
 
That article is bullshit, it's still crappy. They wrapped up production, so it would be impossible to change the plot.


doommovie.jpg
looks like a swat team to me
 
BRODIEMAN2k4 said:
That article is bullshit, it's still crappy. They wrapped up production, so it would be impossible to change the plot.


doommovie.jpg
looks like a swat team to me
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Id still go see it 1st day :)
 
BRODIEMAN2k4 said:
That article is bullshit, it's still crappy. They wrapped up production, so it would be impossible to change the plot.


doommovie.jpg
looks like a swat team to me
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I don't think they changed the plot back to the Hell/Mars. I think gamespot.com has their information mixed up.
 
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