Dumping your girlfriend on the radio

Raziaar said:
I don't know how you people can say this was just a couple innocent cases of kisses.
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Nobody is saying that it doesnt matter, or isn't wrong. We're saying its not bad enough to warrant the kind of public and visceral humiliation he brought on her. What a lot of you guys don't seem to get is the idea of PUBLIC humiliation. Its not like its a one time embarrassment thats over as soon as shes off the phone. Chances are she will be mocked for months by anyone who heard this, and this clip will be passed around from person to person. I mean, **** the internet already got it, and I guarantee you she's seen many of the no doubt thousands of "stupid c*nt deserved it" responses people have made online. And knowing the internet, she might be tracked down so that internet assholes can find her phone number or address and **** with her some more.

For a couple drunken make out sessions, that is not a justified response.
 
I know it was a dick move. Should have been handled privately. But that doesn't rob my enjoyment of it.

It still sounds to me like it was more than just a couple drunk makeout sessions. It sounds like, from what she said, it was a touch and go relationship that went on even while there was no alcohol involved.
 
Krynn72 said:
Nobody is saying that it doesnt matter, or isn't wrong. We're saying its not bad enough to warrant the kind of public and visceral humiliation he brought on her. What a lot of you guys don't seem to get is the idea of PUBLIC humiliation. Its not like its a one time embarrassment thats over as soon as shes off the phone. Chances are she will be mocked for months by anyone who heard this, and this clip will be passed around from person to person. I mean, **** the internet already got it, and I guarantee you she's seen many of the no doubt thousands of "stupid c*nt deserved it" responses people have made online. And knowing the internet, she might be tracked down so that internet assholes can find her phone number or address and **** with her some more.

For a couple drunken make out sessions, that is not a justified response.
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Hey, there were no last names given. It's not like she's going to walk down the street and people will be like "You're that girl that got dumped on the radio!" How exactly is she supposed to be "tracked down" on the Internet when all we know is that she's some girl named Ashley who dated some dude named Chris and cheated with some other dude named Eric?

Only the people who personally know them will know it was them, and they probably know (or would've found out) what happened anyways. I think it's a perfectly natural response where, if someone turns around and slaps you in the face that bad, your reaction would be to want other people to know what a jerk they were. Whether it be bitter facebook posts or just telling the people you know, if you really cared you would want to make that person feel just as awful as they made you feel.

Sure, a radio show is a pretty extreme way to do it, but it sounds like the guy only discovered she was cheating within the past week, so I give him at least a little benefit of the doubt for a "crime of passion" type scenario.

Also, nowhere does it mention that she was actually drunk. Just at a bar, but she could've still had control of herself at the time. Even she didn't make that excuse -- only blamed it on the other dude.

Anyways, it's interesting how this inadvertently builds up sympathy for the girl where there otherwise would've been none. I actually thought the guy was a huge douche the first time I heard this, but people do crazy things when they're emotionally all screwed up. Who knows, maybe after he calmed down a little bit he felt bad about it too.
 
dfc05 said:
Hey, there were no last names given. It's not like she's going to walk down the street and people will be like "You're that girl that got dumped on the radio!" How exactly is she supposed to be "tracked down" on the Internet when all we know is that she's some girl named Ashley who dated some dude named Chris and cheated with some other dude named Eric?
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In that video of of the old white guy beating up a black guy on the bus, there were no names at all and yet in less than 8 hours they had the old guy's full name, the exact address and location of the indecent, and the camera lady's full name, phone number, address, myspace and facebook page. Here we have three names, and the local area that gets this station (St. Louis area). Plus a guy who is piss off enough to make this shit public, and whose friends are probably loving it as much as the internet is and could possibly leak something out online. Its very much possible to find out who she is.

Sure, a radio show is a pretty extreme way to do it, but it sounds like the guy only discovered she was cheating within the past week, so I give him at least a little benefit of the doubt for a "crime of passion" type scenario.
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Oh, ok, that makes it better. Yeah, I dont think murders are as bad so long as it was a crime of passion. :|
 
Why does murder keep getting mentioned in this?
 
Because cheating is like murder. And public humiliation is also like murder. Both of these people are murderers.
 
Krynn72 said:
In that video of of the old white guy beating up a black guy on the bus, there were no names at all and yet in less than 8 hours they had the old guy's full name, the exact address and location of the indecent, and the camera lady's full name, phone number, address, myspace and facebook page. Here we have three names, and the local area that gets this station (St. Louis area). Its very much possible to find out who she is.
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I don't know anything about internet stalking, but getting the full name of a virtually anonymous person with only a first name and their city only seems possible if you know someone who knows them. Even then, that's more a criticism against creeps on the internet and the people who disclose information, than against the person who makes the video/phone call. I don't think that's something that any typical person would think about when calling a radio station. It probably wasn't even made clear that it would be posted online (again, the fault of the radio station, which is apparently run by retards).

Oh, ok, that makes it better. Yeah, I dont think murders are as bad so long as it was a crime of passion. :|
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I wasn't talking about murder -- that was just the only phrase I knew that meant "doing irrational things that you otherwise wouldn't have done because you were emotionally insane" but said it without taking up half a line of text (although apparently crime of passion murders are good enough to keep you out of jail because you're out of your mind). The guy called up a radio station, probably not thinking clearly. His anger and irrationality was probably further inflated by the fact that (1) it's Valentine's Day so he's even more bitter; and (2) he was about to propose. Have you NEVER done anything idiotic that you regret while you were angry?

Anyways, people here rant all the time when they're pissed about their girlfriend or friends, and I remember at least one occasion where the first name of the girl was mentioned. We know the poster's name (sometimes their full name) and location. Is this really all that much better, only because the girl is not around to witness her own humiliation?
 
**** her, bitch ate it hard. It's not nice to listen to anyone suffer like that, but then it's also not nice to stick your tongue in another guy's mouth (and more, probably) when you know how much it will hurt your partner of several years. Maybe she'll be less treacherous in future. Cruel world!

Probably also worth mentioning that she's dicking the second guy around too. Sounds like he's carried a torch for her for a long time, after which she let's him get a little more intimate and then is about to tell him to piss off again.
 
Laivasse said:
**** her, bitch ate it hard. It's not nice to listen to anyone suffer like that, but then it's also not nice to stick your tongue in another guy's mouth (and more, probably) when you know how much it will hurt your partner of several years. Maybe she'll be less treacherous in future. Cruel world!
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This. Life is full of harsh lessons and she had hers, its hurt bad but thats lifes way of telling her she ****ed big style and is paying the penalty.
 
dfc05 said:
I don't know anything about internet stalking, but getting the full name of a virtually anonymous person with only a first name and their city only seems possible if you know someone who knows them. Even then, that's more a criticism against creeps on the internet and the people who disclose information, than against the person who makes the video/phone call. I don't think that's something that any typical person would think about when calling a radio station. It probably wasn't even made clear that it would be posted online (again, the fault of the radio station, which is apparently run by retards).
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Its still a private matter made public, whether he knew it was going on to the internet or not. He knew it was going to be broadcast to all of St. Louis and the surrounding areas.

I wasn't talking about murder -- that was just the only phrase I knew that meant "doing irrational things that you otherwise wouldn't have done because you were emotionally insane" but said it without taking up half a line of text (although apparently crime of passion murders are good enough to keep you out of jail because you're out of your mind). The guy called up a radio station, probably not thinking clearly. His anger and irrationality was probably further inflated by the fact that (1) it's Valentine's Day so he's even more bitter; and (2) he was about to propose. Have you NEVER done anything idiotic that you regret while you were angry?
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I know you weren't talking about murder. I was simply pointing out that, just like in cases or murder, being a crime of passion doesn't make it any less wrong, and doesn't mean the situation warrants any more sympathy than a crime not of passion. And you seem to be mistaking crime of passion for actually being insane. They're not the same.

Anyways, people here rant all the time when they're pissed about their girlfriend or friends, and I remember at least one occasion where the first name of the girl was mentioned. We know the poster's name (sometimes their full name) and location. Is this really all that much better, only because the girl is not around to witness her own humiliation?
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People here talk to about 50 other people who frequent the forums. Thats not the same as a large radio station with thousands of listeners that then posts it online and promotes it. Plus, its only rarely that someone gives out a name, and then... no, that isnt much better, beyond the fact that only a few dozen will even read the thread.
 
Krynn72 said:
Its still a private matter made public, whether he knew it was going on to the internet or not. He knew it was going to be broadcast to all of St. Louis and the surrounding areas.
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Okay, fair enough. I think we all agree it was a jerk move, just some of us feel there were enough justifications and/or explanations as to how the whole situation arose which don't make him a complete douche.

Anyways, I'd hope (and expect) that people aren't consistently mocking her for this. I bet right after it happened, she probably went to her friends crying and told them herself that her ex dumped her on air and was a huge jerk and so on. Like I said before, this is actually a great way for her to drum up sympathy for herself where there otherwise wouldn't have been any.
 
someone find out who she is so we can see if she's hot.

she sounds hot
 
Jerk move, perhaps too extreme, blah blah blah... The girl doesn't get any sympathy from me.

Don't **** around behind your partner's back. Neither cold feet or consumption of alcohol excuse these kind of flings. A drunken kiss on a single night can be water under the bridge, but this was clearly something that was ongoing.

Was this cruel and unnecessary? Yeah, sure. Maybe she is better off without this guy given his noxious airing of private matters. But I don't blame him for shit. This is what you get when you mess with peoples' hearts. Surprise surprise! Lovers with emotions aren't always going to react rationally towards your ****ing romantic dalliances with another guy. Be prepared for the worst.

ADDED: Pretty much agree with Laivasse. She's not just screwing around with her boyfriend, but also her guy on the side. She should not have given him an inch, and she was inevitably going to dump him on his heartbroken ass after giving him false hope (although he should have known better).
 
I quite enjoyed that... something about sweet revenge that just gets me going.
 
In my experience, how bad you feel when a relationship ends depends entirely on how it ended.

If I am dumped or cheated on, I feel completely crushed. The pain can last for months. But if I'm cheated on, and I call in a radio show to completely destroy this bitch, I'm going to feel a lot better.

Not sure where I'm going with this. I guess I'm saying that he was surely hurt very bad when he found out she was cheating and probably feels much better by having 'got her back' for it. So, although he was a bastard for doing that, maybe that was the best thing for him. For him to get over her quickly and not dealing with a long drawn out painful process.
 
VirusType2 said:
In my experience, how bad you feel when a relationship ends depends entirely on how it ended.

If I am dumped or cheated on, I feel completely crushed. The pain can last for months. But if I'm cheated on, and I call in a radio show to completely destroy this bitch, I'm going to feel a lot better.

Not sure where I'm going with this. I guess I'm saying that he was surely hurt very bad when he found out she was cheating and probably feels much better by having 'got her back' for it. So, although he was a bastard for doing that, maybe that was the best thing for him. For him to get over her quickly and not dealing with a long drawn out painful process.
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I agree with this, maybe because I've felt hurt and pissed off over much lesser wrongs by people I'm not even dating :p.

Also, the more that I think about it, a radio show isn't the most awful way to go. The majority of listeners don't know who you are. It would've been much worse if, for instance, he had an engagement party with all their personal friends and family around, then announced "Hey guys, she cheated!" And one of my own friends broke up with his girlfriend of three years for long-distance reasons, but gave her no warning of it. In fact, he'd decided (several months ahead) that he would break up with her, and didn't bother to let her know before she bought a plane ticket to California to visit him. And then, he broke up with her DURING her visit. I don't talk to the girl or even like her all that much, but I told him several times not to do that because it's one of the biggest possible asshole moves one could pull. But he did. And he justified the cost of her paying for plane tickets to visit him (only to get broken up with), by saying that he paid for half of it. As if that makes things better. Man, I just re-realized what a huge jerk he is.....

Ahem... anyways, breaking up with someone over the radio for cheating -- relatively not so bad! :)
 
VirusType2 said:
In my experience, how bad you feel when a relationship ends depends entirely on how it ended.

If I am dumped or cheated on, I feel completely crushed. The pain can last for months. But if I'm cheated on, and I call in a radio show to completely destroy this bitch, I'm going to feel a lot better.

Not sure where I'm going with this. I guess I'm saying that he was surely hurt very bad when he found out she was cheating and probably feels much better by having 'got her back' for it. So, although he was a bastard for doing that, maybe that was the best thing for him. For him to get over her quickly and not dealing with a long drawn out painful process.
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I know exactly what you're talking about. It's significantly easier to move through a difficult time if you're angry rather than if you're depressed. It may not be the BEST thing, but it's certainly easier on the heart.
 
I can sympathize with hurt and the pain the guy is going through. But I think to drag the woman's name through the mud, in radio is gong a bit too far. I guess it's one of those moments where his anger clouded his judgment. That I can understand actually. I have done some stupid things while I was angry that I regretted later.
 
So basically the consensus is "Yeah he over reacted but he wuz mad so i forgive him lol, fuk da bitch."


awesome
 
I dislike this because I dislike unnecessary cruelty. There is no point in being overly cruel, and if you get satisfaction from your own cruelty, you might need to get a new perspective on life, or incarceration in a mental health facility for life.
 
Krynn72 said:
So basically the consensus is "Yeah he over reacted but he wuz mad so i forgive him lol, fuk da bitch."


awesome
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I don't condone what he did. In fact, it was a real mean thing to do. But hey.

Bitch had it comin'.
 
Raziaar said:
Where does forgiveness enter the equation?
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Everywhere in this thread.
Absinthe said:
Jerk move, perhaps too extreme, blah blah blah...

Was this cruel and unnecessary? Yeah, sure.

But I don't blame him for shit.
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dfc05 said:
Okay, fair enough. I think we all agree it was a jerk move, just some of us feel there were enough justifications and/or explanations as to how the whole situation arose which don't make him a complete douche.
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Raziaar said:
I know it was a dick move. Should have been handled privately. But that doesn't rob my enjoyment of it.

It's significantly easier to move through a difficult time if you're angry rather than if you're depressed.
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Shyam said:
I guess it's one of those moments where his anger clouded his judgment. That I can understand actually.
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Krynn72 said:
Everywhere in this thread.
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So the only other alternative other than condemning him is forgiving him?

I don't understand this.

I would have to actually be emotionally involved and invested in the situation in order to be in a position to forgive him.
 
I'd say it has less to do with forgiving him as much as being unsympathetic to her. I do think that cheating on your longtime partner is a shitty thing to do. She played with fire and got burned. Be careful next time.

What's with the damn butthurt, any way. Some person got publicly humiliated? Like we don't laugh at that shit every other freakin' day. No laws were broken and no great social injustice was carried out.
 
Absinthe said:
What's with the damn butthurt, any way. Some person got publicly humiliated? Like we don't laugh at that shit every other freakin' day. No laws were broken and no great social injustice was carried out.
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Yeah I don't understand this either. This is ripe HL2.net guffaw material... and thus I enjoyed it.
 
toaster leigh said:
That's a fair point, Krynn. I also think that I should point out for the rest of you that I'm not saying that it's okay that she did what she did, but rather within this context her actions are genuinely not that bad. By reacting the way he did, her boyfriend unquestionably has lost any claim he could've had to a moral highground.
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I doubt he was caring much about a moral highground right then. Why would he? The woman broke his heart, being the bigger man isn't something that would appeal to most people in such a situation.
 
Oh shit it's not after 10? My alarm must be broken.

Anyway for all you know the girl always wanted to be e-famous and despite his broken heart and better judgement the guy still loved her enough that he went ahead and gave her that wish. A parting gift to replace the ring he can no longer bring himself to give her.
 
That's just plain wrong man....


What mean dick, you'd have to be black hearted Person to do that another Human being.
 
Black hearted uno? The racism never stops with you does it.
 
unozero said:
That's just plain wrong man....


What mean dick, you'd have to be black hearted Person to do that another Human being.
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After listening to that again I really don't think he wanted it to go like that. To me it seemed like the hosts were the ones being the arses and he went along with it... cause he's not going to stick up for her is he.

They led her on about the proposal and then laughed while she was crying (which was awesome)

My point is that we don't know these people and we don't know what she did. So we have no idea which one (or both) is the arsehole.
 
Girl cheats, sees ring, decides to not cheat.
Marriage novelty runs dry, girl cheats.
Simple.
 
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