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Seems interesting. I've seen stuff like this before (but not from this company), and the biggest problem has been updates for drivers. I would do some research and find out how often they update their drivers for this contraption.
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Good point, what would be perfect is HL2 support, but if they update once a millenium then that's pretty much out of the window 
Edit - and the fram rate seems to take a hit too, but i could cope with that in single player games (so long as it's still playable :/)
Edit - and the fram rate seems to take a hit too, but i could cope with that in single player games (so long as it's still playable :/)
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I suppose it's because the glasses rely on having two viewpoints of the 3D world to create the effect. It won't do you'r comp any favours if it has to churn out two different angles of a world for every frame. But they might also work by alternating from the left to the right - so there would be less of a hit on your FPS.
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i hasd [ a op air thy work FOINE!!! i fel none side effects!
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kidrock450 said:
take a breath and try again.
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Murray_H said:They emailed me back, HL2 and Doom 3 will be supported so i may see what my funds are like at the end of the month before making a purchase.
If i do get them, i'll do a proper review of them
I'm positive a user here actually wrote up a short review on the pair he bought, and he was high on the praise.
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Just for you, Murray
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12302
Oddly enough, I found it through a thread in which you replied about the very same glasses early this year.. someone linked to that very thread about 2 posts down from yours :O
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12302
Oddly enough, I found it through a thread in which you replied about the very same glasses early this year.. someone linked to that very thread about 2 posts down from yours :O
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Shuzer said:Just for you, Murray
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12302
Oddly enough, I found it through a thread in which you replied about the very same glasses early this year.. someone linked to that very thread about 2 posts down from yours :O
Cheers
Hmmm it doesn't look too good for ATI owners (like me) and someone mentioned that pixel shaders don't work with them (dunno why not). I think i'll leave them for a short while, if i have money to spare i may get them but with uni soon i think i would be better off saving
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I have the Edimensional glasses.
They are awesome to play around with. The coolest game that I have played with them is Vietcong. It made the jungle pop out at me, it made the terrain look like it went on in the distance forever, and I felt more like I was there in the game walking through it than any other game I have ever played. Other games were enhanced greatly besides Vietcong, but that game looked the coolest in my opinion.
I would just walk around in the 3D games I played amazed by how cool the whole environment looked.
Now to be practical though...
I said that they were nice to play around with and there is good reason for that. They aren't going to be all that great once you turn on multiplayer or need to pass the hardest part of your favorite game. (Check on the disadgvantages below)
I had to take off the glasses and turn off the 3D effect when I wanted to play hardcore cause they really aren't efficient for being pinpoint accurate and they can be distracting. When trying to figure out what your HUD says or stopping and looking at how cool that tree looks in 3D, you'll get shot down real fast in a game that requires fast reflexes and good awareness of your surroundings. This can be somewhat fixed by turning down the amount of '3D binocular vision effect' (how far apart double images are shown), but then why even have the glasses if you need to turn down the effect almost completely. Hey don't judge me... I was talking in layman's terms in that last sentence.
I haven't used the glasses since last year, but some disadvantages of the glasses when I used them were (some things might have changed by now):
-You need to have a CRT monitor to use them (they don't work on flat monitors)
-They didn't have any support for ATI drivers when i used them, but they said they were working on that at the time.
-Anything that is not 3D on the screen shows up as a double image. e.g. your crosshairs, the GUI or HUD, and your cursor in RTS games (This can be especially annoying for the crosshairs since your your bullets hit inbetween them. Instead of your crosshair looking like this: + it shows up as this: + + I'm sure you can see how that would get frustrating.)
- cuts your framerates dramatically... about half because the video card now has to display two images of the game.
Advantages:
- It makes 3D games look SWEET!
Conclusion: If you pick most of your games by how pretty the pictures are on the game boxes because that matters more than playability (like me) buy them now, but if you don't really care about all that stuff and don't have any money to throw around don't get caught up in the hype.
They are awesome to play around with. The coolest game that I have played with them is Vietcong. It made the jungle pop out at me, it made the terrain look like it went on in the distance forever, and I felt more like I was there in the game walking through it than any other game I have ever played. Other games were enhanced greatly besides Vietcong, but that game looked the coolest in my opinion.
I would just walk around in the 3D games I played amazed by how cool the whole environment looked.
Now to be practical though...
I said that they were nice to play around with and there is good reason for that. They aren't going to be all that great once you turn on multiplayer or need to pass the hardest part of your favorite game. (Check on the disadgvantages below)
I had to take off the glasses and turn off the 3D effect when I wanted to play hardcore cause they really aren't efficient for being pinpoint accurate and they can be distracting. When trying to figure out what your HUD says or stopping and looking at how cool that tree looks in 3D, you'll get shot down real fast in a game that requires fast reflexes and good awareness of your surroundings. This can be somewhat fixed by turning down the amount of '3D binocular vision effect' (how far apart double images are shown), but then why even have the glasses if you need to turn down the effect almost completely. Hey don't judge me... I was talking in layman's terms in that last sentence.
I haven't used the glasses since last year, but some disadvantages of the glasses when I used them were (some things might have changed by now):
-You need to have a CRT monitor to use them (they don't work on flat monitors)
-They didn't have any support for ATI drivers when i used them, but they said they were working on that at the time.
-Anything that is not 3D on the screen shows up as a double image. e.g. your crosshairs, the GUI or HUD, and your cursor in RTS games (This can be especially annoying for the crosshairs since your your bullets hit inbetween them. Instead of your crosshair looking like this: + it shows up as this: + + I'm sure you can see how that would get frustrating.)
- cuts your framerates dramatically... about half because the video card now has to display two images of the game.
Advantages:
- It makes 3D games look SWEET!
Conclusion: If you pick most of your games by how pretty the pictures are on the game boxes because that matters more than playability (like me) buy them now, but if you don't really care about all that stuff and don't have any money to throw around don't get caught up in the hype.
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Ok guys, I got a pair of X3d glasses a couple years ago. I'll just write you up a short pro/con list of my opinion.
Pros:
-It's 3d. come on!
-If you look hard enough you can find some 3d photography... of miscellaneous woman.
-Works with nearly every 3d game.
Cons:
-2d stuff shows doubled like some people said.
-Refresh Rate is effectively halved. This is what causes the headaches. So if you want 60 fps in games, plan on running in a mode that you can get 120 refresh rate in.
-Ghosting! This is probobly the worst problem and I haven't heard anyone mention it. I'm guessing the more expensive glasses have less ghosting problems. But the pair I got (X3D) has serious problems with ghosting. Ghosting is where you can see the other eye's image because the actual shutter either isn't timed correctly, or not blocking the vision as much as it should.
Other Stuff:
Computer 3d glasses are shutter glasses. Aside from shutter glasses there is:
-Red/Blue Anaglyph glasses. These are the kind you see used in comic books and in the old 3d movies.
-HMD. These are Head Mounted Displays. These have 2 screens and are worn over the head (This is the classic "Virtual Reality" headset)
And last but not least.
-Polorized glasses. This is most likely what Pobz used at Imax3d. These are 3d glasses with polorized lenses. Couldn't tell you exactly how it works, but IMO it's currently the best. The glasses can be made cheap out of cardboard just like the anaglyph glasses. Except they have 2 gray screens. So you don't get the crappy color you get with the red/blue ones. This requires a special display/projector though so don't excpect to see this one in your homes for a while.
Pros:
-It's 3d. come on!
-If you look hard enough you can find some 3d photography... of miscellaneous woman.
-Works with nearly every 3d game.
Cons:
-2d stuff shows doubled like some people said.
-Refresh Rate is effectively halved. This is what causes the headaches. So if you want 60 fps in games, plan on running in a mode that you can get 120 refresh rate in.
-Ghosting! This is probobly the worst problem and I haven't heard anyone mention it. I'm guessing the more expensive glasses have less ghosting problems. But the pair I got (X3D) has serious problems with ghosting. Ghosting is where you can see the other eye's image because the actual shutter either isn't timed correctly, or not blocking the vision as much as it should.
Other Stuff:
Computer 3d glasses are shutter glasses. Aside from shutter glasses there is:
-Red/Blue Anaglyph glasses. These are the kind you see used in comic books and in the old 3d movies.
-HMD. These are Head Mounted Displays. These have 2 screens and are worn over the head (This is the classic "Virtual Reality" headset)
And last but not least.
-Polorized glasses. This is most likely what Pobz used at Imax3d. These are 3d glasses with polorized lenses. Couldn't tell you exactly how it works, but IMO it's currently the best. The glasses can be made cheap out of cardboard just like the anaglyph glasses. Except they have 2 gray screens. So you don't get the crappy color you get with the red/blue ones. This requires a special display/projector though so don't excpect to see this one in your homes for a while.
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As I understand it, IMAX projects two images onto the screen. Each one shows the two viewpoints needed to trick the mind into thinking the image has depth, they are both passed through polarising filters (let's call them H and V). The filters on the glasses will only allow H or V light through, one for each eye.
Because of this, the image(s) reflected from the screen is split into two, one viewpoint for each eye. I think this is how it works anyway.
Because of this, the image(s) reflected from the screen is split into two, one viewpoint for each eye. I think this is how it works anyway.
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this site shows the lets say "lite" version of what shutter glasses do. http://www.burningmanopera.org/2002/2002_stereo_wiggle2.html
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