Email From Doug L to me

plus, I'm no huge supporter of Valve or anything - I could really care less about them. I think they are no doubt some pretty nice guys and girls with a business to run. Good and bad.
 
Yah a demo would be nice, but I think thats just wishful thinking. With how secretive they've been about specifics and not letting out the plot before the release, i find that highly doubtful.

I'd like to see maybe some new media, and it'd be nice if they could get the SDK out for the mods community.
 
You say very mature and wise things, Mountain Man. I agree with you.
 
Well, if they new for a FACT that long ago about the delay and chose to not tell us well okay maybe, but I still say don't be surprised too much - they are still just a business despite the fact that some of us want them to be more.
 
Originally posted by Tlaloc
more time?! it's been in development for FIVE YEARS!!!!

I agree with U Dude but unreal 2 was in development
for a similar period of time and it was one of the most poor excuses for
a sequel, especialy since the original was such a great game for its time.

HL1 was very ground breaking for its time to and Valve understand that screwing up the game would be the end of them!

I am mega pissed at the compleet lack of respect for fans in regarding the timing of the anouncement, but sh$t hapens for a reason, and only they know why its delayed, You can bet your ass its for a good one.
 
Originally posted by Crusader
What makes me laugh is that they developed in secret for 5 years, announced the release when the end was in sight. And now it's still ended up delayed for months. LMAO

Question: What month did the Hype really pick up steam? I can't remember ... Delay fogging memory . . .

can't ... breath ...
 
Originally posted by indyjones
Yeah, Mountain Man, be pissed that the game isn't coming out, but Valve lets there fans in so close...
But my point is, they haven't let us in close at all. They've used and abused their community relationship to promote the game. It just feels like they've taken so much from their fans without giving anything back.
 
Yeah a demo is doubtful, but hell I'd settle for a tech demo or jst the trap town scene. THat way we wouldn't see anyting we haven't yet. Doubtful, but deserved
 
THey have let us in closer than most other companies would who are busy and trying to remain secretive about plot and such. All I'm saying is that we put Valve on a pedestal, but they are just another business and this stuff happens all the time we where just in such a close position about everything else that we feel that much more let down.
 
What makes me laugh is that they developed in secret for 5 years, announced the release when the end was in sight. And now it's still ended up delayed for months. LMAO

I find it hard to believe that that makes you laugh. It makes me kinda angry. And I KNOW I dont laugh when Im angry...
 
I think it would be sweet if they could somehow just release the short tech demo for us to play with. Fans could maybe get a rough idea how HL2 would run on their system, and it would be amusing. I wanna shoot down those barrels and throw a matress in the water. ;(
 
What does make me laugh are the true believers who still think its all a hoax. Poor fellas
 
This is really unbelievable, how can you do this to your fans, cancel it just 6 days beforce release, this is an example of non commitment to your customers, I have lost faith in this company, they're all the same.

Customers are good for money, nothing else counts :(
Well, they can forget my copy.

They pissed off their entire cimmunity, well nice done guys.

Damn I pissed off ....I wish I had the power to boycot this game arround the world, don't mess with people... :flame:
 
Originally posted by eQUIV
I think it would be sweet if they could somehow just release the short tech demo for us to play with. Fans could maybe get a rough idea how HL2 would run on their system, and it would be amusing. I wanna shoot down those barrels and throw a matress in the water. ;(

Yeah - that would be good .. but the actual game would be better.
 
I wanna shoot down those barrels and throw a matress in the water.

I wanna turn on the blade and let zombies walk into it. I wanna block doors with tables, and shoot radiators at combine soldiers. I wanna watch alyx's eyes follow me around.
 
Originally posted by razorblade kiss
I wanna turn on the blade and let zombies walk into it. I wanna block doors with tables, and shoot radiators at combine soldiers. I wanna watch alyx's eyes follow me around.

I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish
 
Originally posted by razorblade kiss
I wanna turn on the blade and let zombies walk into it. I wanna block doors with tables, and shoot radiators at combine soldiers. I wanna watch alyx's eyes follow me around.

That wasn't in the Tech Demo.

The Tech Demo was the before they showed any in game footage. You see it in the Shaky Cam video.
 
well......THIS SUCKS.

And you people keep saying "Max Payne2 this, Max Payne2 that". Well uh...last time I checked Max Payne 2 isn't coming out until like mid-november...HL2 could be out by then (probably not, but maybe..)
 
Originally posted by Mountain Man
It doesn't seem they're going to give us a reason. But the truth remains, they had to know about a delay of this magnitude for some time, so it's unconscionable that they'd pretend everything was on track when that was not the truth.

Actually, they may not have known about the delay for some time.

In 1997, Valve were near to finishing off Half-Life 1 but Gabe took the decision to delay it while they went over some of the things that they didn't like.

It's not unreasonable to think that Gabe would delay the game a few months to make sure everything works. It could be that they were running late but instead of rushing it, they decided to delay it.

Don't automatically assume just because Fragmaster was right about the delay, the rest was right.

I could say that Republicans are going to win the next US Presidential Election because Bush has a mind controlling goat. Now, Bush may win the election, but that doesn't mean I was right about the mind controlling goat.
 
When is the next school vacation gonna be? Maybe that what they mean by vacations? Too optimistical?
 
I got 2 questions:

1. Can someone email Game himself and ask questions that we get actuall answers too? He is still holding to 30th? Exactly WHAT are they doing atm?
2. Do they (Valve dudes) actually actually visit this site? If not, can you tell em to do so, and maybe take part of this community?

That email from Doug Lombardi doesnt tell me much btw.
Oh, and also, Max Payne 2 is scheduled for Oct 15, last time I checked (could be wrong though)
 
hmm...wonder why they waited until the very end like this...very bad PR...unless its only a few days delayed...we'll see...
 
Originally posted by Baal
well......THIS SUCKS.

And you people keep saying "Max Payne2 this, Max Payne2 that". Well uh...last time I checked Max Payne 2 isn't coming out until like mid-november...HL2 could be out by then (probably not, but maybe..)

max payne comes @ 15 october
;)
 
Originally posted by A2597
hmm...wonder why they waited until the very end like this...very bad PR...unless its only a few days delayed...we'll see...

"Gabe, I'm not going to be able to get the game bug free in time for the release. Something's come up with the Geforce 2."
"Okay Mike, go get some rest, you can't work like this. We can delay the game a month or two, fans wouldn't like to play a rushed game".
 
I heard the game has been delayed because Nvida bribed Valve to put off the game for a few months and re-optimize specifically for their hardware... and now they've ditched ATI.

just kidding..... or am I?


*x-files theme plays*
 
ARGGG F*ckin waiting for months and then this !! ffs stupid arg DOASJHADLFKJAL:KJADKALJD

SUICIDE**
 
Valve is delaying the game so that Nvidia can develop a new line of video cards that actually support DX9. That way HL2 payers can get the full effect of the game. The way it is supposed to be played!
 
Reply:

Valve will always lean towards whichever game it plays better on, it being graphics cards and the benchmarks basically killed the Nvidia cards, they performed better as DX8 cards than DX9. They said it took extra time, however many months I believe they said atleast 6 months to make the codepath so the game would even be playable for Nvidia cards. So I thank Nvidia somewhat for a longer developing process than necessary. heh And I doubt they would ditch Ati over a bribe, the game runs twice as good on Ati cards and they're bundling the game /w Ati cards thats already been established.


- Jason
 
Re: Reply:

Originally posted by Jabrim
Valve will always lean towards whichever game it plays better on, it being graphics cards and the benchmarks basically killed the Nvidia cards, they performed better as DX8 cards than DX9. They said it took extra time, however many months I believe they said atleast 6 months to make the codepath so the game would even be playable for Nvidia cards. So I thank Nvidia somewhat for a longer developing process than necessary. heh And I doubt they would ditch Ati over a bribe, the game runs twice as good on Ati cards and they're bundling the game /w Ati cards thats already been established.


- Jason

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=joke
 
Reply:

I knew you were joking, not like the X-Files music wouldn't give it away, was just giving my opinion. :cool:
 
I know, I was just being an ass.

But hey! Atleast I'm good at it.
 
Originally posted by Dagobert
I WONT BELEEVE IT UNTIL DOOG LAMBADA COMES TO MY HOUSE AN MY MOM LETS HIM IN AND HE TELLS ME IN PERSUN.


LOL
i want the statement in HIGH QUALITY BINK VIDEO FORMAT :)
 
Ok, how many big games have you looked forward to, and have been delayed? For me, the answer is almost all of 'em.

We were like a week away and they hadnt announced they had gone gold, an i was slightly supprised as how the hell were they gonna stap that many disks in such a short space of time for so many pre orders, shop orders and stuff.

I dont really thing Valve have much control over the date, i do belive that if they release it now, it will sell as fast as much as it would at any point in the year (Christmas)

What I wanna know is..... WHY
 
the fact that Doug can't say what happened or when they are thinking about releasing, along with the fact that they say "holiday 2003" just like Vivendi said months ago indicates that this was a Publisher/Developer conflict.

Looks like Vivendi has the day. Maybe we'll hear more about this in post-mortems...
 
Nah, I think its 100% Vivendi, I never liked them, Sierra canned ITF, but it was Vivendi that told Sierra to cut back on cost (So they decided to make professional bull rider instead)...

Pretty certain that its Vivendi's fault
 
Originally posted by Panzer101
Ok, how many big games have you looked forward to, and have been delayed? For me, the answer is almost all of 'em.


hehe not to go off topic, and also I admit that I didn't follow Morrowind much untill close to release...but as far as I know that one actually made its release date...correct me if I'm wrong though.
 
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