Engine Vs Storyline Vs Graphics

[Urbanleg]

Engine Vs Storyline Vs Graphics + Discussion

Well, it looks like this is the hot issue now so I chose to pos this poll...

I prefer A strong Engine btw.

 

[Urbanleg]

Wehn u come to think of it half Life series, Gave us the best Amount of each. and thats what makes it the "Great game of all times" and 49 (I think) other awards.

 

[Scaramanga]

A good game should have all of them.
Although, I think the graphics are more important than the story line and the enigne.

 

[Whitter]

I love any game with a good story, I dont care how it looks, I can still play the first adventure games created by Lucasfilm (Monkey Island 1, Maniac Mansion 1 and still love them.

 

[Rigamix]

Sometimes i play at Super Mario 3, on my Super Nintendo, and i still have fun ! More fun than SOF2, or other games !!

 

[dawdler]

I think it all depends on what game it is. For example, comparing Neverwinter Nights and Morrowind, neverwinter nights graphics engine is HORRIBLE, while Morrowind is pure beauty (and still unrivalled to this date)

But they are so different. The neverwinter graphics is enough for its gameplay, and its story definetly outweights Morrowind, plus all the classes and junk.

However, Morrowind graphics is ESSENTIAL for its survival (today, wouldnt have been in the past), and it relies heavily on it, having weaker character system and world integration.

None of the games can survive on only one part (neverwinter nights on its story and classes or morrowind on its graphics).

So I say its all these things weighed together that makes the game. Every single part is NOTHING without the others, but varies in importance from game to game. A good engine is nothing without the game backing it up. And a good game is nothing without the engine backing it.

 

[Urbanleg]

Originally posted by dawdler
I think it all depends on what game it is. For example, comparing Neverwinter Nights and Morrowind, neverwinter nights graphics engine is HORRIBLE, while Morrowind is pure beauty (and still unrivalled to this date)

But they are so different. The neverwinter graphics is enough for its gameplay, and its story definetly outweights Morrowind, plus all the classes and junk.

However, Morrowind graphics is ESSENTIAL for its survival (today, wouldnt have been in the past), and it relies heavily on it, having weaker character system and world integration.

None of the games can survive on only one part (neverwinter nights on its story and classes or morrowind on its graphics).

So I say its all these things weighed together that makes the game. Every single part is NOTHING without the others, but varies in importance from game to game. A good engine is nothing without the game backing it up. And a good game is nothing without the engine backing it.

And if You HAVE to choose one what is your answer?

 

[Infiniti]

Fallout 2 had sub-par graphics, but that doesn't mean ANYTHING because that game was possibly my number 2 favorite or 3 favorite. #1 would be Land of Lore Throne of Chaos, which also had shit graphics, but it was fun as hell. #2 Half-life of course .

 

[PriNcE oF SpAcE]

you forgot to put gameplay in there...

 

[Urbanleg]

Originally posted by PriNcE oF SpAcE
you forgot to put gameplay in there...

Gameplay is a Product.

You get it from a Good Engine.

Therfore Choose Engine,:dozey:

 

[Majestic XII]

Originally posted by Rigamix
Sometimes i play at Super Mario 3, on my Super Nintendo, and i still have fun ! More fun than SOF2, or other games !!

You should play Super Mario 3 on a NES

 

[PriNcE oF SpAcE]

gameplay isn't a product of a good engine...

you've got racing mods/games build on an engine used for FPS-games...

it's vastly different gameplay...and they can both suck or rock compared to each other, despite using same engine.

the same even goes for FPS-games using the same engine....gameplay and engines are too very different things!

 

[Urbanleg]

Originally posted by PriNcE oF SpAcE
gameplay isn't a product of a good engine...

you've got racing mods/games build on an engine used for FPS-games...

it's vastly different gameplay...and they can both suck or rock compared to each other, despite using same engine.

the same even goes for FPS-games using the same engine....gameplay and engines are too very different things!

Well i guess you got a point.. but The issue now in Halflife2.net is the 3 options above.. I guess it would of been wiser to put gameplay as well, but all the whinning / Talking i'm hearing here is about graphics, engine and SL.

btw: The reason i said it Before was very egotistical.. Well for me the better the realism / engine is - the better i like the whole feel of the game (i.e GAMEPLAY.) Well some other people are just diffrent..

Im a bad bad Person! :bonce:

 

[Bad^Hat]

Storyline, same reason I love a good RPG. As long as it looks and plays decent I'll sit thru it for the storyline.

 

[Rigamix]

Originally posted by Majestic XII
You should play Super Mario 3 on a NES

Yeah ! Lot af fun too !

 

[Urbanleg]

Originally posted by nietzsche
A robust and well-architected engine is a key enabling technology for a good game. It will pave the way for innovations in other areas and without a solid fundament, everything else will fall apart.

The storyline. Without it, games would be an open-ended, loose concept without a goal. Take for example Peter Molyneux, an industry veteran, who had learned rather late in the development process of Black & White that the game needed a story-line and consequently hired a professional writer.

Graphics, in today's game industry, are first and foremost a selling point. Great graphics won't make a weak game better, while weak graphics won't destroy a great game.

Nietzsche - What did u vote for?

 

[el Chi]

Re: Engine Vs Storyline Vs Graphics + Discussion

Originally posted by Urbanleg
I prefer A strong Engine btw.

A strong engine, sir? Ooof! Suits you, sir!

Scuse me...

 

[dawdler]

Originally posted by Urbanleg
And if You HAVE to choose one what is your answer?

Developers! :cheese:

 

[Urbanleg]

:cheese:

 

[Mr.Reak]

Not for me, I played Fallout and their graphics sucked. Game is one of the greatest RPG of all time (don't even start jumping with your FF7 here). I played Planescape: Torment, again graphics weren't that great, but story-line was amazing. I think it is first time ever where you don't need to fight against any gods or become the one, etc. Anyway, I am RPG fun, so for me story-line and gameplay are major factors.

 

[righte0us]

none of the options in the poll matters. only gameplay and fun factor.

 

[bonanzaguy]

while good graphics and a good engine are important to being a good game, the storyline is really what will *make* the game. if it has the best graphics in the world but has a shit plot, then no one will play it for long, and it will be a flop. Lucky for us, Valve knows the value of a good storyline and has a nice little treat called Half-Life 2 waiting for us

 

[Ateoto]

A truly great game has all three of these. We know HL2 has great graphics, and it looks like it will have a great engine. All we need to worry about is the story line. If the storyline and gameplay suck, then I dont care how amazing it looks, its crap. But I think HL2's story will be great too!

 

[Mountain Man]

You needed one more choice: gameplay. Graphics, technology, and storyline are irrelevant because it's all about gameplay. For instance, GTA: Vice City doesn't have the greatest graphics in the world, and the story is a little contrived, but it's gameplay is tops. Diablo II was accused of looking dated before it was even released and its story was as linear as they come, but its the gameplay that keeps me coming back year after year. Heck, even the original Half-Life wasn't a graphics champ in its day and its story was mostly derivitive, but what sold me on it is the gameplay.

Gameplay is king. Everything else is irrelevant.

 

[Kleptomaniac]

While usually I would vote for storyline, I think I would love Half-Life 2 even if it storyline would be somewhere along the lines of "quick, the world has ran out of Soda, and it's up to you to replenish it by killing thousands of aliens who stole all the soda for their intergalactic fuel!".

I think that in Half-Life 2's case, the engine is the most important thing, as the physics, performance, and overall look of this particular game is the most important thing.

 

[EC]

Originally posted by Rigamix
Sometimes i play at Super Mario 3, on my Super Nintendo, and i still have fun ! More fun than SOF2, or other games !!

I hear you, man. I hear you.

On the topic, I'm looking forward to seeing what the Source engine can do with me in control.