EU sanctions US

[CptStern]

ooohh this is just so freakin ironic:


EU Will Seek to Impose Sanctions on U.S.

"The European Union head office said Thursday it will seek to impose additional sanctions of up to 15 percent on U.S. products to punish Washington for failing to repeal an antidumping law ruled illegal by the World Trade Organization.

The European Commission said its action would be joined soon by seven other nations, including Japan, South Korea and Brazil, which had all requested the WTO authorize retaliation."

if the sanctions dont work, maybe we should round-up a coalition of the willing ...who's with me?

 

[oldagerocker]

I think thats Excellent... the EU has some power, lets hope it does does effect the US gvmt. I doubt Britain would want to join in though....

 

[Absinthe]

if the sanctions dont work, maybe we should round-up a coalition of the willing ...who's with me?

Ah, but that would make me a traitor and I'd probably get capital punishment.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Continuation of the trade war between the US and the EU.

Was listening to the radio the other day, heard some good commentary on this, talking about how he considered us at war with the EU, not warring in the sense of troops and bombing and we're still buddy buddy, but everything else aside from force is cut throat between us.

Things like this may serve to strengthen both sides

 

[gh0st]

Cant imagine why I hate Europe and North American traitors like stern. Fortunatly this all comes back to bite them in their pompous asses, our trade is what keeps them running.

 

[Absinthe]

How exactly is stern being treacherous? He isn't a US citizen.

 

[gh0st]

How exactly is stern being treacherous? He isn't a US citizen.

Because hes part of north america, and while europe is blindly thrusting their inconsequential tariff on us, they will end up punishing our other trade partners as well.

 

[Absinthe]

Sharing a geographic location does not mean you are symbiotic with your neighbor nation.

 

[gh0st]

Sharing a geographic location does not mean you are symbiotic with your neighbor nation.

Can you read? They are one of our largest trading partners. Everything that happens to us eventually effects them. But they are too "blind-sided" with hate for Bush to give a damn, which is just plain ****in stupid.

 

[Absinthe]

I was addressing you comment about stern being treacherous.

But you apparently think that "stupid" and "treacherous" are synonymous. So excuse me for not being able to comprehend posts that you apparently don't much thought into constructing.

 

[gh0st]

I was addressing you comment about stern being treacherous.

But you apparently think that "stupid" and "treacherous" are synonymous. So excuse me for not being able to comprehend posts that you apparently don't much thought into constructing.

No. Treacherous for laughing about what is a punishment for north america, not just the US.

Stupid for laughing about it because 1) he hates America, and 2) for his resentment of our leader.

Its laughable if you think your well orchestrated prose is any better than mine.

 

[bliink]

Stop with the pointless argument, ghost, absinthe

Its just stupid

 

[gh0st]

Stop with the pointless argument, ghost, absinthe

Its just stupid

Wrong for going off topic.
Wrong for discussing the topic.

Thats why this forum needs to be unmoderated.

 

[bliink]

Wrong for going off topic.
Wrong for discussing the topic.

Thats why this forum needs to be unmoderated.

Yeah.. how about "no".

Stop carrying on like you're 6 years old.

 

[Absinthe]

No. Treacherous for laughing about what is a punishment for north america, not just the US.

That's not treacherous...

Meh, forget it. I'll just rely on my dictionary and be on my way.

 

[Direwolf]

Meh, just politicians throw hissy fits because ours threw their own. Their arguments and fights (such as this) are as pointless as the ones here.

 

[CptStern]

heh all this questioning of my loyalty ...I guess gh0st you didnt read enough on the issue:

"The EU understands that Canada will be announcing retaliatory measures against certain products from the United States and expects that other co-complainants will soon join it in applying retaliation," the EU head office said. "


...all jokes aside, gh0st you're taking this far too seriously, the US sanctioned the EU a few years back, it happens all the time, they're just trade sanctions for not meeting WTO obligations ..the tariff is 15% on goods like cigarettes and oysters. Really not that big of deal ...until that is the politicians spin it into another "example of anti-americans-ism" which couldnt be further from the truth


oh and the treacherous part was kind of silly, we also trade with other countries besides the US ...your patriotism is almost at a feverish pitch, dont expect other people to feel the same way just because we live on the same stretch of soil

 

[Eg.]

yeah if anything this is going to hurt the EU in the long run than it will us. i mean it will hamper the american economy first, but in a few decades the EU will follow. taking out teh world #1 powerhouse kinda hurts everyone. and china has a lot fo work to do still to catch up

 

[mortiz]

yeah if anything this is going to hurt the EU in the long run than it will us. i mean it will hamper the american economy first, but in a few decades the EU will follow. taking out teh world #1 powerhouse kinda hurts everyone. and china has a lot fo work to do still to catch up

I think you're over estimating exactly how much affect this will have on the world economy, it amounts to something like 28 million dollars, which at the end of the day is a drop in the ocean.

 

[Pogrom]

Interesting to see the reaction to this in the US.

For a country that advocates free trade, the US has one of the most protectionist economies in the world.

"Anything goes... Until it isn't in my interests. Then I'm going to cry foul."

Watch how quick the US is to condemn other countries for protectionist policies, but then blithely ignores international organisations like the WTO when it suits them.

But this particular tariff is more symbolic than anything else.

Off-Topic - G'day Stern. didn't reply to you in that other thread :cheers:

 

[gh0st]

Stern I just wanted you to know that I care for my canadian brothers just as much as I care for my american ones

 

[GhostFox]

Sharing a geographic location does not mean you are symbiotic with your neighbor nation.

While that could be correct in many cases, the fact is that the Canadian economy exists solely based on the US market. I don't think there is any other country in the world so dependant on a single country for maintaining the economic stability.

That being said, it doesn't at all mean it is a bad thing, nor do I think that it necessicarily applies to the issue at hand. Only that the US and Canada are indeed economically symbiotic.

 

[The Monkey]

Stern the traitor...

Anywho, I thinks it good that The EU shows some guts against the superpower, just because they helped us in a way 60 years ago doesn't mean that we can't critize they, something that they have proven now. But, as stern said, this means nothing in reality, so I guess that they have yet to prove their true courage.

 

[CptStern]

While that could be correct in many cases, the fact is that the Canadian economy exists solely based on the US market. I don't think there is any other country in the world so dependant on a single country for maintaining the economic stability.

That being said, it doesn't at all mean it is a bad thing, nor do I think that it necessicarily applies to the issue at hand. Only that the US and Canada are indeed economically symbiotic.

canada is not solely dependant on the US for trade ...85% exported goods and 60% imports ...a large majority but hardly exclusive


anyways, gh0st I dont know how to take your statement, with a dash of sarcasm or perhaps a kernel of truth but in any event as Pogrom's (*waves at Pogrom* ) already mentioned it's symbolic at best. The WTO is pretty much powerless when it comes to enforcing policy, which in turn leads to the only other alternative for countries that break regulations: sanctions



"Stern the traitor" - hmmm has a sort nice of ring to it ...almost like a pirate or freedomfighter ..."it's Stern the Traitor, the rebel behind the overthrow of the tyrant BushMartin, seize him!!"

yay I'm a traitor!!!

 

[KoreBolteR]

EU trying to throw thier weight around...

definately get the other nations to sit up and agree, as they all prefer the EU than the US.

the EU knows this. i sincerely hope this backfires on them.

UK isnt part of EU ..

 

[CptStern]

UK isnt part of EU ..

? ummmmmm no

 

[Mith']

UK isnt part of EU ..

This has to be a joke, UK was one of the nations that started the EU!

 

[KoreBolteR]

? ummmmmm no

stern,

i meant politically.
we do not have Euros as our currency.
the EU doesnt control us.

geographically were part of Europe yes.
we are in the continent
and we respect our fellow europeans.

but you would rarely find a person born in the UK calling him/herself 'european'.

 

[KoreBolteR]

This has to be a joke, UK was one of the nations that started the EU!

pff, then wheres our european leader?

wheres our Euro army?... we dont even have the Euros as currency.

France and Germany are the main countries imo.

we have nothing to do in this EU versus US bs. :x

 

[Mith']

pff, then wheres our european leader?

wheres our Euro army?... we dont even have the Euros as currency.

France and Germany are the main countries imo.

Euro army? This is just so far suggestion, as far as I know..
And the people have to vote on getting Euro as a currency, only nations with a screwed currency use Euros...

 

[CptStern]

stern,

i meant politically.
we do not have Euros as our currency.
the EU doesnt control us.

geographically were part of Europe yes.
we are in the continent
and we respect our fellow europeans.

but you would rarely find a person born in the UK calling him/herself 'european'.

I dont see what this has to do with European Union trade agreements ..I never call myself North american ..but that doesnt mean that I'm not north american

 

[KoreBolteR]

Euro army? This is just so far suggestion, as far as I know..
And the people have to vote on getting Euro as a currency, only nations with a screwed currency use Euros...

well as soon as we all unite currency, armies and power, then UK are in EU.

anyone disagree?

 

[The Monkey]

Sweden doesn't have euro as currency either, but we're still part of the EU, and so is the UK. And UK was not one of the founding countries, those were: Belgium, France, West Germany, Italy, Luxembourg and Netherlands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union

 

[Recoil]

well as soon as we all unite currency, armies and power, then UK are in EU.

Well... I had the impression that most people in the UK don't want that... right?

 

[KoreBolteR]

I dont see what this has to do with European Union trade agreements ..I never call myself North american ..but that doesnt mean that I'm not north american

yeah, but north america isnt one, or has no intentions of uniting.

I would say the UK are in the European Union at the moment, we might be in the future.. after a few referendums.

but the UK is in the continent Europe of course.

 

[KoreBolteR]

Well... I had the impression that most people in the UK don't want that... right?

hmm to be honest, i wouldnt mind it.

maybe the majority dont want change atm, in the future i feel we will have to unite.

Sweden doesn't have euro as currency either, but we're still part of the EU, and so is the UK. And UK was not one of the founding countries, those were: Belgium, France, West Germany, Italy, Luxembourg and Netherlands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union

Thought so, the UK isnt respected at all in the EU.

or are they?

UK Norway and Switzerland havnt got the EU currency at my knowledge.

 

[Mith']

Sweden doesn't have euro as currency either, but we're still part of the EU, and so is the UK. And UK was not one of the founding countries, those were: Belgium, France, West Germany, Italy, Luxembourg and Netherlands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union

Bah, then UK jumped on the wagon pretty soon after.. Something like that...

 

[Mith']

UK Norway and Switzerland havnt got the EU currency at my knowledge.

So what? Neither Norway or Switzerland is a part of the EU (Europa Union)...

Ugh, double post... Edit button is my friend...

 

[Maxi]

Cant imagine why I hate Europe and North American traitors like stern. Fortunatly this all comes back to bite them in their pompous asses, our trade is what keeps them running.

Um.. yeah. See here. No we don't really rely on you. And anyway, it would hurt you alot more than it would hurt Europe so. BTW I guess the whole EU are now terrorists since we 'aren't with the states'.

 

[The Monkey]

Thought so, the UK isnt respected at all in the EU.

or are they?

UK Norway and Switzerland havnt got the EU currency at my knowledge.

Neither have Sweden or Denmark. Those along with the UK are the only countries in the EU that doesn't got, or plan to get the Euro.
Norway and Switzerland aren't even in the EU, so they can't have its currency. You got no respect at all? How's that? You hold 78 seats in parliament (compared to Sweden's 19...), so you got much more influence and respect that you think.