~Every Surface Bumpmapped?

[Crusader]

I have been playing around with the flashlight in CS:S, and I've noticed that practically every surface has a bump map in De_dust. Unfortunately the effect is so subtle and "under-done" that it is hardly noticeable without using the flashlight to highlight the bumps and grooves, and therefore there is no major graphical improvement with bumpmapping on.

I just thought it was interesting that a lot of people have assumed that the textures were flat, and complained at the lack of bumpmapping, when it is in fact a ubiquitous feature of the map.

What do you guys think? Did you notice the bumpmapping was everywhere? Do you think it needs to be made more pronounced? Or am I just blind?

(The latter option is fairly likely )

 

[Triggerhappy41]

i was wondering this too. was this reall bumpmapping or just a trick they did with the flashlight. if it was real bumpmapping, one of the only ways to really make it show is dynamic lights.

 

[The Dark Elf]

They could stop darker colors from being lit up as brightly, without using real normal or bump mapping. A sly and not very nice trick. If thats what they've done, hard to say in many cases.

 

[Crusader]

The surfaces stop reacting to light when you turn bump-mapping off, and also the direction of the light can be told from the way the bumps are highlighted, for instance the far side of a bump will be dark, even if it is usually light (for instance pointing your torch up a wall, where normally the sun would be lighting it from above. I am fairly certain it is real bump-mapping, just overly subtle bump-mapping..

 

[Bigcheese]

err isnt it normal mapping not bump mapping...

 

[pixartist]

it's bumb mapping. you dont see that because there are no dynamic lights...

 

[Sporky]

err isnt it normal mapping not bump mapping...

It's bump mapping, it's largely redundant in the current map because the lighting is so uniform and bland. It looks quite a bit better in the stress test map where they have more directional and more varied (but still static) lighting.

Normal mapping would be a stage further than this and would mean a better illusion of surface depth, but again you'd never notice it without any true dynamic lighting and with the lighting in de_dust anyway (which just kind of saturates everywhere with a static and fairly consistent light).

 

[IchI]

well, with the textures its quite easy to make a bump map, all they pritty much would have done is turned the texture into greyscale and converted it into a bump map. Simple

 

[azz0r]

They should make it more like test_hardware. Dunno if my attached picture is bumpmapping with normal maps but it looks great.

 

[Triggerhappy41]

source is capable of both bumpmapping and normal mapping, but is it capable of dynamic lights to show off these features?

 

[Incitatus]

It's bump mapping, it's largely redundant in the current map because the lighting is so uniform and bland. It looks quite a bit better in the stress test map where they have more directional and more varied (but still static) lighting.

Normal mapping would be a stage further than this and would mean a better illusion of surface depth, but again you'd never notice it without any true dynamic lighting and with the lighting in de_dust anyway (which just kind of saturates everywhere with a static and fairly consistent light).

exactly

:afro:

 

[Sparta]

so would that be shader model 2.0 being used there?

 

[The Dark Elf]

They should make it more like test_hardware. Dunno if my attached picture is bumpmapping with normal maps but it looks great.

Thats got offset mapping in it.