EVP....Do you Believe?

[pr0nking]

Hai, after watching The White Noise, it made me think about EVP. I looked up some sites about it and stuff it seems pretty real. I've heard a few clips and stuff but it all just sounds like semi muted tv. Anyone got any interesting sites?! Or experiances thanks

 

[destrukt]

if i say yes can i have some pr0n ?

 

[pr0nking]

Maybe..

 

[destrukt]

i believe.

 

[Recoil]

What's EVP?

 

[lord dubu]

I read some articles a while back on EVP, Backmasking and the power of suggestion. There were some pretty convincing arguments suggesting that without someone telling you what you are supposed to hear, that you'd ever hear anything at all...

Dunno juries still out with me on EVP.

 

[pr0nking]

What's EVP?

Electronic Voice Phenomenom(sp?!). Basically apparatus which can record the voice / video of teh dead

 

[lord dubu]

What's EVP?

Electronic Voice Phenomenon...

Supposedly certain frequencies can be recorded, then during playback "voices" manifest in the static.

 

[kirovman]

Yeah, just like at the beginning of HL2 where a lot of people report hearing Nihilanth

People hear what they want to hear, but unless you get sufficient coherance of sound, it's inconclusive.

 

[lord dubu]

Yeah, just like at the beginning of HL2 where a lot of people report hearing Nihilanth

People hear what they want to hear, but unless you get sufficient coherance of sound, it's inconclusive.

Even the class A voices still leave me severely skeptical. You're left to take it at the word of the recorder in every circumstance.

My favorite is the lady who records singing voices in the sound of her teapot whistle.

I bet with enough recorded static, or ambeint noice and adobe audition I too could provide you with a host of silly intepretations of what is being heard in them...

Clearly there's a voice saying "My dog left a tree." What do you mean that makes no sense? Hey man that's the spirits talking, I don't know what it means either, but clearly its a message from beyond!!!

 

[lord dubu]

Yeah, just like at the beginning of HL2 where a lot of people report hearing Nihilanth

People hear what they want to hear, but unless you get sufficient coherance of sound, it's inconclusive.

Or where people kept saying that Alladin had subliminal messages encouraging kids to have sex... Turns out it was Aladin telling the tiger to get down or something similar.

 

[Recoil]

Thx for the explanation.

 

[SupremePain]

no, i don't believe. The whole concept of it is pretty far out there....

 

[oldagerocker]

It seems silly to me... I haven't seen the film and don't plan to. But the whole thing is like the songs backwards, you wont hear it until someone suggests what you'll hear.

 

[WhiteZero]

The movie wasnt that great at all; it's just going to give EVP a bad name.
If you want to hear real EVP, go here: http://www.ghostpix.com/
Thats the webpage of the G.I.S., Ghost Investigators Society, who are frequent guests on Coast to Coast AM, the most popular late-night radio show.

They have sound files and even video of their findings. All the downloads are free, since they refuse to let anyone pay them for their work.

But the whole thing is like the songs backwards, you wont hear it until someone suggests what you'll hear.

Not true, offten their very obvious.

Supposedly certain frequencies can be recorded

It usualy has nothing to do with Radio frequencies. EVP is usualy picked up from just recoding from a microphone.

 

[CyberSh33p]

It seems silly to me... I haven't seen the film and don't plan to. But the whole thing is like the songs backwards, you wont hear it until someone suggests what you'll hear.

interestingly enough, that also applies to radiohead songs played forward

 

[clarky003]

EVP is very real, its a method of scalar wave detection, its very weird, and cant really be explained, but it all ties in with the quantum vaccum and subtle energy states.. possibly other dimensional, different Frequency related energies that are directly responsible for our percieveable reality.

remember we are not the know it all's of the universe, we are a result of the universe... so its sensible to assume our physical reality is very much all tied into our senses, which are inherently limited,but thats not to say it doesnt exist when we dont percieve this world anymore, the energy is always there, its just our conciousness acts like a camera or lense above the surface of a sea, we see the ripples and waves, It is our reality, but the camera (us) is limited in its fixed pre programmed state although connected to the entirity of the universe underneath the sea to enable it to work, and cannot see under the water to what is causing the rippled surface movement, you can account for wind, but the other element evades it.

we can detect other wave energy forms such as Xray, and microwave. that doesnt mean thats all that exist's in a indirect visual format.. reality is determined by the state of the level of perception/conciousness your mind is in.

someone elses reality e.g a blind person. is very different to someone who can see. because they experiance it differently.. now for all we know, having 5 senses may seem blind to the entireity of what the universe is. It is by far much more than what we see. and alot more simple than we make out, we only struggle to explain because of inability to experiance, understanding of it all as a whole doesnt make sense because we cant see the entire picture... etc etc.

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

for some reason whenever I look at this thread I have to shit, maybe it is poop-haunted

EVP is very real, its a method of scalar wave detection, its very weird, and cant really be explained, but it all ties in with the quantum vaccum and subtle energy states.. possibly other dimensional, different Frequency related energies that are directly responsible for our percieveable reality.

remember we are not the know it all's of the universe, we are a result of the universe... so its sensible to assume our physical reality is very much all tied into our senses, which are inherently limited,but thats not to say it doesnt exist when we dont percieve this world anymore, the energy is always there, its just our conciousness acts like a camera or lense above the surface of a sea, we see the ripples and waves, It is our reality, but the camera (us) is limited in its fixed pre programmed state although connected to the entirity of the universe underneath the sea to enable it to work, and cannot see under the water to what is causing the rippled surface movement, you can account for wind, but the other element evades it.

we can detect other wave energy forms such as Xray, and microwave. that doesnt mean thats all that exist's in a indirect visual format.. reality is determined by the state of the level of perception/conciousness your mind is in.

someone elses reality e.g a blind person. is very different to someone who can see. because they experiance it differently.. now for all we know, having 5 senses may seem blind to the entireity of what the universe is. It is by far much more than what we see. and alot more simple than we make out, we only struggle to explain because of inability to experiance, understanding of it all as a whole doesnt make sense because we cant see the entire picture... etc etc.

very interesting imforative post, was a joy to read, thanks for actually posting something imformed

 

[pr0nking]

Yea its nice to have a fairly educated conversation every now and again ^_^

 

[Raziaar]

I don't really believe in it, no, but then again, I don't believe in most things like this. I don't even believe in Aliens. I believe in god, but not aliens. Crazy, huh?

 

[pr0nking]

Very..... eheh.

 

[Burn]

I beileve in ghosts, but I find it hard to beileve in evp, theres just little proof there anything but fake crap, I would not beileve in something that I had not seen with my own eyes, or heard with my own ears.

 

[WhiteZero]

I don't even believe in Aliens.

I always found that statment humorous. It's kind of like saying, "I believe the Earth is the only planet in the universe."
:rolling:

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

I always found that statment humorous. It's kind of like saying, "I believe the Earth is the only planet in the universe."
:rolling:

Actually, saying "Earth is the only planet in the universe" would be like saying "I believe Earth is the only planet in the Universe"

Saying you don't believe in aliens is exactly what it reads as.

 

[WhiteZero]

Actually, saying "Earth is the only planet in the universe" would be like saying "I believe Earth is the only planet in the Universe"

Saying you don't believe in aliens is exactly what it reads as.

I guess you didnt get the underlying point. :E

The universe is infinitly expanding, which means that there are an infinite number of galaxies, solar systems, and planets being created. Thusly, it's impossible for there not to be some other form of life out there (or for there to come into existance in the future).
Which is why I made the parallel of the Earth being the only planet in the universe, which is equally impossible.

Hope that clears up my post.

 

[lord dubu]

Thusly, it's impossible for there not to be some other form of life out there (or for there to come into existance in the future).

Not -impossible-.

 

[lePobz]

I watched White Noise the other day.... it was the biggest heap of donkeypoop since jeepers creepers...

...and no, I don't believe in EVP... I think people are just picking up faint echoes of other radio/tv channels that bounce off the atmosphere from japan.

 

[clarky003]

well on the subject of aliens, the disclosure project disclosed information that stated that there where several races in our local area in the cosmos..

A military official seemed completely genuine, when he told the press there where several types.

all humanoid in form , which is intresting.

he mentioned a race that was nearly identical to our own, "infact you cant tell the differences" , its minor, mostly intelligence wise

Grey's , the 4 foot kinda cute guys

and another Lanky humanoid type, like out of close encounters.

and he said he had seen them, and the witnesses all agree its us who are the threat, ( heck we are even a threat to our own race!, and they are supposed to be a space culture harnessing zero point energies and so forth) not them, they are more conciously and technologically advanced.. but understanding the technologies they use requires them to have a better understanding and appreciation for the universe, with higher level of conciousness , and knowledge of universal harmony. basically a stupid person would have a hard time grasping how vaccum energy works, and what the vaccum is as its best understood.

but yeh very interesting, and if you ask me, if its true what they say, and we get the chance to be part of something more meaningful, and be a space bearing race... i say screw buying a gas guzzling car or expensive TV, lets go visit other worlds.

 

[WhiteZero]

I think people are just picking up faint echoes

It's not always faint.

And as I said, the really interesting EVPs arent picked off from Radio or TV.

 

[Apos]

EVP is very real, its a method of scalar wave detection, its very weird, and cant really be explained, but it all ties in with the quantum vaccum and subtle energy states.. possibly other dimensional, different Frequency related energies that are directly responsible for our percieveable reality.

This is just a jumble of of jargon.

And as I said, the really interesting EVPs arent picked off from Radio or TV.

The radiospectrum is polluted with TONS of transmissions that even mikes can pick up. Heck, I often had song recordings screwed up when truckers drove by with their CBs and my mike cord was the right length to pick them up and put garbled bits of what they were saying on tape.

Most of the EVP evidence I've heard is just people hearing things in static the same way we "see" faces in almost any random collection of objects. Our minds are BUILT to try and put a human face and voice on everything.

 

[WhiteZero]

As I've suggested, listen/watch some of the stuff on www.ghostpix.com
Most of them are very clear.
None of the voices were picked up off of a radio or TV, just from recording around old prisons/houses/mosoleums/etc/etc.
All of their recordings are done on a NEW casset (not just re-recoded over) and new media in general (including digital).

Check it out sometime.

 

[Apos]

First of all, none of those things are very convincing at all, and worse, I have no way to judge their validity (and the owners of the site don't seem to either!). A lot of the just sound like static overlay, and some sound EXACTLY like snippets of radio transmissions. Note also that the recordings are all on hissy tape: precisely the sort of medium you'd expect to have all sorts of artifacts and garbled noises that people can convince themselves are voices. These people are obviously very commited to the idea that there are ghosts, but their evidence is pretyt far form convincing.