Fake Spy Update

You could say that this spy update... is a SPY!

Very proffesional
 
Those spy weapons sound like they would actually be implemented.
 
There's a Soldier one floating around too.
 
These unlockables are unoriginal and retarded.

Agreed, i hope we get something nothing like this.

The silencer: Shoots crits in the back, please they just copied the backburner in the Pyro update. Also it's a bit overpowered as you can't hear it and a spy can kill you miles away as the gun is to accurate.

Magnetic sapper: Again to powerful, all it would need is 1 -2 good spy's and they can bring down a room full of sentries. The Engineer would be useless, not well balanced if an engi can't defend his own Sentry. What's to stop the spy sapping and shooting it?

The Garrote: Killing people while invisible. What's the point of backstabbing if i can go around strangling people while staying invisible. How are you supposed to defend against that. Also would it disable the player in those seconds? or can the player spin around and attack.

Dumbest upgrades ever
 
I actually kinda like the alternative weapons. I mean, the sapper one is a fairly interesting idea.
 
I suspect the next update may be shipped with a new valve map, seeing as they said they'd have one before summer was out.
 
I actually kinda like the alternative weapons. I mean, the sapper one is a fairly interesting idea.


Oh please.

Put yourself in the engie's shoes for once.

A sg can hardly defend a area from 3-4 players who know what they're doing. And now they'd be supposed to wait "a short while" without being able to do anything except helplessly watch the opposing force rush in and destroy everything?

Laughable.
 
The spawn health cabinets now completely refill the Spies cloak meter and team dispensers refill the Spies cloak.

Players can now hold their mouse button down to 'prime' their stab, then release the mouse to unleash it instantly. This significantly helps out with missing stabs, while not increasing the rate at which a spy can stab.
Best idea's there and I liked some of their achievements. The replacement loadout wouldn't work.
 
Those basic updates to the spy seem great though. That'd be wonderful...
 
The silencer: Shoots crits in the back, please they just copied the backburner in the Pyro update. Also it's a bit overpowered as you can't hear it and a spy can kill you miles away as the gun is to accurate.

It's not that accurate, and you would only be able to get off one or two shots since a good player would know they were shot from behind since the HUD tells you.

Magnetic sapper: Again to powerful, all it would need is 1 -2 good spy's and they can bring down a room full of sentries. The Engineer would be useless, not well balanced if an engi can't defend his own Sentry. What's to stop the spy sapping and shooting it?

I can see your point. I probably wouldn't use it anyway since I can use my sapper on engie buildings multiple times before dying.

The Garrote: Killing people while invisible. What's the point of backstabbing if i can go around strangling people while staying invisible. How are you supposed to defend against that. Also would it disable the player in those seconds? or can the player spin around and attack.

I think it was killing while your disguised, not invisible.
 
The Sapper is the only one I find pretty good. It could work.
 
the garroate seems ok but the sapper seems overpowered and the pistol is sorta.....useless almost? why not just backstab if ur behind someone....although being a distance away and getting a guarnteed crit shot would be....no NO it's not fair!
 
I was really hoping Valve would have allowed the Spy to refill his cloak via resupply and dispensers in the Pyro update. :(
 
It's not that accurate, and you would only be able to get off one or two shots since a good player would know they were shot from behind since the HUD tells you.
One crit shot from a revolver does 120 damage and it is one of the more accurate weapons in TF2.
 
The Garrote: Killing people while invisible. What's the point of backstabbing if i can go around strangling people while staying invisible. How are you supposed to defend against that. Also would it disable the player in those seconds? or can the player spin around and attack.

To be fair, it said while disguised. Not invisible.

I want the tranq gun rather for a unlockable weapon

**** YES.
 
These upgrade ideas are terrible. The back-crit ppk is way over powered, imagine a spy just camping behind a wall killing all who wonder past him in 1-2 easy shots, it would pretty much make the knife obsolete. The magnetic sapper could work I suppose, its a bit boring though since engis usually need to kill/chase away sapping spies anyway before removing the sappers. The Garrote is a stupid idea, I assume there would be a strangling animation to go with it, which would 1. blow the spies cover and 2. make him immobile which is worse than the current butterfly knife anyway.

I still like the paintbrush idea from earlier on the thread, could be very entertaining that.
 
That is awesome!!

Magnetic Sapper and The Garrote are abit meh but the rest is awesome!
 
Extra ways to fill the cloak is nice. "Priming" the stab is also a very good idea. I hope Valve pays attention.




Silenced pistol is a crap idea. Think about it. The Spy would be able to get guaranteed critical shots from any range.

I don't like the magnetic sapper because it would be really annoying for an engineer to not be able to do anything even if you're right next to your buildings with full metal when they get sapped.

How the hell can a Spy strangle someone to death over several seconds without breaking his disguise? That doesn't make sense. Anyone watching would see the Spy strangling the other person. You'd be stuck in place for a few seconds as you do it, making it more likely that you'd get caught than if you used the knife.




Backstabbing a spy who is about to backstab a friend. How the hell would this be tracked? Would the enemy spy have to be mid-animation when you did it? That would be near-impossible.
How do you kill an engineer with his own gun?
There should definitly be a gentlemen achievement that uses that image but it should have something to do with cigarettes.
Is it possible to backstab somewhile while they are healling you?
 
How do you kill an engineer with his own gun?

You gotta lure him directly in front of his Sentry as it's firing. Which is near impossible as no decent Engi stands in front of there sentry, especially as it firing.
 
The achievements are almost as bad as the Medic ones.
 
You gotta lure him directly in front of his Sentry as it's firing. Which is near impossible as no decent Engi stands in front of there sentry, especially as it firing.

I've been killed by my own Level 3 Sentry two times. Both times were executed in pretty much the same way - an enemy approached me from behind making the Sentry turn around and blasting me and the enemy to smithereens.
 
"Trick an enemy medic into ubering you, then kill one of his teammates"

Laughibly impossible. I've only been ubered once before by an enemy medic and I've played for 300+ hours.
 
"Trick an enemy medic into ubering you, then kill one of his teammates"

Laughibly impossible. I've only been ubered once before by an enemy medic and I've played for 300+ hours.
Seconded. That is the worst fake achievement there is.
 
"Trick an enemy medic into ubering you, then kill one of his teammates"

Laughibly impossible. I've only been ubered once before by an enemy medic and I've played for 300+ hours.

I've been ubered at least 4 times, but it's impossible to kill anyone while you're ubered because you're kinda GLOWING THE OPPOSITE COLOUR and everybody runs away.
 
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