Far Cry vs Doom 3

[Sparta]

Now that Doom 3 is out, and those who have played both Far Cry and Doom 3, tell us what you think, which game is better and why, and lets keep things clean.

Personally i haven't finished Doom 3 yet but from what i've played so far i'm gonna say Far Cry, even though that game could've easily been alot better, so could Doom 3

 

[KiMcH33]

i say far cry..doom 3 is just sorta like shoot whatever you see nothign else

 

[Shuzer]

i say far cry..doom 3 is just sorta like shoot whatever you see nothign else

And FarCry is different in what respect?

 

[Mechagodzilla]

And FarCry is different in what respect?

Well, from what I hear, Farcry has an element of stealth to it. And use of good AI over good scripting.

 

[Roland Deschain]

FarCry is a great game, but they messed up with the high difficulty and the poor balancing of gameplay (no quick save, powerfull monsters, so on). But visually I find FarCry more pleasing (not better than Doom 3, Doom 3 is amazing in that respect), but that's juste because I prefer open areas to claustophobic ones.

 

[Shuzer]

Well, from what I hear, Farcry has an element of stealth to it. And use of good AI over good scripting.

Yes. But it's still the same concept. The AI is nothing great in FC, it cheats more than it searches.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

I didn't say farcry was good, mind you. Just "different".

 

[Sparta]

Yes. But it's still the same concept. The AI is nothing great in FC, it cheats more than it searches.

I totally agree, however its more of a challenge in Far Cry then Doom 3, most of the enemies do little damage even on Marine difficulty

 

[DarkStar]

And FarCry is different in what respect?

It's just that there a bunch of different combat options in Far Cry. Leaning, going prone, getting in a vehicle, going stealthy etc...Different weapons are better suited for different situations than others. (eg: The shotgun is better againsts Trigens and the automatic weapons are better for mercs) The grenades are actually useful, plus there are several different kinds.

Don't get me wrong. I love Doom 3. The gameplay is just decidedly old school when compared to Far Cry.

 

[ShinRa]

if anything carmack shouldve just made a mod in far cry, and not waste years on the engine he built.

 

[Letters]

Doom 3 by quite a bit... it takes my favorite part of Far Cry (indoor scary parts) to the extreme.

 

[Shuzer]

if anything carmack shouldve just made a mod in far cry, and not waste years on the engine he built.

What in the WORLD!?

Doom 3 is more like a bonus to an extremely nice engine. Carmack makes wonderful engines, case in point, look how long Q3's engine has lasted.

To say that he shouldn't have built a new engine is stupid. It's also what *really* funds iD. Engine licenses.

 

[Sedako]

if anything carmack shouldve just made a mod in far cry, and not waste years on the engine he built.

Doom 3's engine is excellent, and i'm sure it will be used to with more games in the future. It fits the dark theme of the game perfectly, and Far Cry's engine would do it no justice at all...

 

[Milo 7]

the stealth in farcry sucks if u would snipe a dude from all away from the other end of the island instantly everybody came runniing to u :/

u only had to fart and the while island knew where u were.
and the ai wasnt that special either they would get stuck behind trees and do pushups??? loool
or when u ran in the water a whole gruop would follow u and just stop there middle in the water having a pool party lol
i havent seen the enemies in doom3 do anything dumb yet (execpt some imps trowing a fireballl at a barrel next to them )

the most annoying about farcry's ai was that they would ALL come after u the moment u farted. and the only cool monster in farcry was the monkey trigens
i still loved farcry though

but i like doom3 better, it just looks (execpt the low res textures) better plays better,sounds better and i love the spooky shit

 

[ShadowFox]

the stealth in farcry sucks if u would snipe a dude from all away from the other end of the island instantly everybody came runniing to u :/

LMAO! Damn those enemies and their ability to hear a sniper shot!

I haven't finished D3 yet, but so far I have to say a slight edge to FC. It was just very unique. Don't get me wrong, I love both games.

 

[Sai]

far cry b/c of the variety and the difficulty, shuzer i agree fc does boil down to shooting everything but it does so with so much more variety and the weapons are loud and satisfying, plus the death animations are much more satisfying in fc b/c of how tough the marines and aliens can get sometimes and b/c they ragdoll not just disentagrate, and the a.i. is just plain better no contest for me in that subject

the one thing that really got to me about d3 was how the beginning was awsome the middle felt really stretched and overdone, and just when the game was getting good it ends too fast, fc provided me with lenght and challenge, doom3 is not nearly as hard as its predeccessors and not as long as i wanted it to be.....

 

[ACLeroK212]

What in the WORLD!?

Doom 3 is more like a bonus to an extremely nice engine. Carmack makes wonderful engines, case in point, look how long Q3's engine has lasted.

To say that he shouldn't have built a new engine is stupid. It's also what *really* funds iD. Engine licenses.

I whole heartedly agree. And is it just my computer, or does Doom 3 run a whole hell of a lot better than Far Cry, (even when compared to Far Cry's indoor levels). I still find myself continuously tweaking with the options in Far Cry, trying to squeeze every last fps out of it that I can, but with Doom 3 it seems like I just set my options and away I went, and I haven't had a single performance complaint yet.

 

[Roland Deschain]

I whole heartedly agree. And is it just my computer, or does Doom 3 run a whole hell of a lot better than Far Cry, (even when compared to Far Cry's indoor levels). I still find myself continuously tweaking with the options in Far Cry, trying to squeeze every last fps out of it that I can, but with Doom 3 it seems like I just set my options and away I went, and I haven't had a single performance complaint yet.

Your kidding me right, I have a 9800 Pro, and I could run Far Cry like a dream even on high resolutions and some AA. Compared to Far Cry, Doom 3 runs rather badly on my computer, but I have to say that drops in fps in Far Cry are more noticable than in Doom 3.

 

[ShadowFox]

I whole heartedly agree. And is it just my computer, or does Doom 3 run a whole hell of a lot better than Far Cry, (even when compared to Far Cry's indoor levels). I still find myself continuously tweaking with the options in Far Cry, trying to squeeze every last fps out of it that I can, but with Doom 3 it seems like I just set my options and away I went, and I haven't had a single performance complaint yet.

No.. it's just you and Shuzer.

Far Cry runs much better for me. I can easily run everything at its highest in FC while I have to run Doom 3 in medium mode.

 

[ACLeroK212]

the one thing that really got to me about d3 was how the beginning was awsome the middle felt really stretched and overdone, and just when the game was getting good it ends too fast, fc provided me with lenght and challenge, doom3 is not nearly as hard as its predeccessors and not as long as i wanted it to be.....

I felt the exact same way about Far Cry. It was good but I found myself stuck in the middle just wishing it would get to the end at points. I liked the combat in Far Cry but it tended to be the same thing over and over. Snipe a little, run in and kill a bunch of mercs, maybe take out a triggen or two, shoot a gunner out of the helo, rinse and repeat. It's like it was basically the same battles over and over again all the way through. Doom 3 may not have the AI, but at least they have a little more variety in the enemy department so you don't feel like your fighting the same monster over and over just with different skins throughout the whole game.

 

[ACLeroK212]

No.. it's just you and Shuzer.

Far Cry runs much better for me. I can easily run everything at its highest in FC while I have to run Doom 3 in medium mode.

I run both at high but Far Cry just doesn't have as nice or as smooth of a feel as Doom.

 

[Roland Deschain]

I felt the exact same way about Far Cry. It was good but I found myself stuck in the middle just wishing it would get to the end at points. I liked the combat in Far Cry but it tended to be the same thing over and over. Snipe a little, run in and kill a bunch of mercs, maybe take out a triggen or two, shoot a gunner out of the helo, rinse and repeat. It's like it was basically the same battles over and over again all the way through. Doom 3 may not have the AI, but at least they have a little more variety in the enemy department so you don't feel like your fighting the same monster over and over just with different skins throughout the whole game.

But that's what Doom 3 exactly feels like. Fighting in Doom 3 is very monotoneuos, and that's what Doom is: go in and shoot anything that moves and I like that simplicity (to a degree). Sure Doom 3 has many monsters but they all behave in very similar and simplistic ways, again a Doom trademark: you don't want genius monsters around, leave that to HL

 

[Sedako]

But that's what Doom 3 exactly feels like. Fighting in Doom 3 is very monotoneuos, and that's what Doom is: go in and shoot anything that moves and I like that simplicity (to a degree). Sure Doom 3 has many monsters but they all behave in very similar and simplistic ways, again a Doom trademark: you don't want genius monsters around, leave that to HL

What I like about Doom 3 is that different monsters are dispatched more easily with different weapons. It lets you conserve ammo for more powerful weapons for the bigger enemies.

Imp = Shotgun
Trite = Machine gun
Lost Soul = Plasma rifle

That's what works best for me.

In Far Cry, I found myself using only 2 or 3 different weapons the entire game. There is barely any enemy variety too. Basically just merc and trigens.

 

[Roland Deschain]

What I like about Doom 3 is that different monsters are dispatched more easily with different weapons. It lets you conserve ammo for more powerful weapons for the bigger enemies.

Imp = Shotgun
Trent = Machine gun
Lost Soul = Plasma rifle

That's what works best for me.

In Far Cry, I found myself using only 2 or 3 different weapons the entire game. There is barely any enemy variety too. Basically just merc and trigens.

I used shotgun if I could get close or machine gun if I couldn't, but I used all the weapons if Far Cry.

 

[ShadowFox]

Trent? Whats that?

 

[Sparta]

after playing doom 3 some more i'm gonna go with doom 3, those sentry bots are my best friend

 

[Sedako]

Trent? Whats that?

Fixed it, ment to say trite.

 

[ACLeroK212]

But that's what Doom 3 exactly feels like. Fighting in Doom 3 is very monotoneuos, and that's what Doom is: go in and shoot anything that moves and I like that simplicity (to a degree). Sure Doom 3 has many monsters but they all behave in very similar and simplistic ways, again a Doom trademark: you don't want genius monsters around, leave that to HL

yes, but at least in doom the enemies come at you or appear in different ways to keep it fresh. you never know where the next imp is gonna crawl out from or hidden door a zombie is going to jump out of. with far cry it was the same old, see a group of huts or an outpost, use the binocs to find the enemy, snipe or run in and gun. it was the exact same situation every single time, just different island.

 

[Sedako]

I used shotgun if I could get close or machine gun if I couldn't, but I used all the weapons if Far Cry.

Machine gun? Chaingun and Plasma rifle are superior IMO, but the machine gun rips through trites without wasting ammo for better guns.

 

[Mr. Redundant]

Doom3 hands down, its just breath-taking. (in every sense of the word)

 

[ShadowFox]

Fixed it, ment to say trite.

Ah... I thought Rezner was in the game after all.

I found the pistol to be the best against the Trites. Besides, I had to find something to use that pistol ammo on.

 

[Sparta]

Well i'm almost up to the monorail part, its that level right after you get the Rocket Launcher, and its rather fun but its not exactly anything new. Its cool that its nostalgic like Doom and all (Secret walls for monsters to hide in, repetitive action) but its downside is exactly that.

Doom was fun because it only took about an hour or so to beat, but Doom 3 gets rather tedious and boring

 

[Warbie]

Tough one - both games havre their moments, but neither are what I'd call 'classics'

Far Cry is certainly more varied, in gfx and gameplay. Doom more tense and eery. I can't decide.

Both games get 7/10 and are owned by Metroid Prime \o/

 

[Sparta]

Tough one - both games havre their moments, but neither are what I'd call 'classics'

Far Cry is certainly more varied, in gfx and gameplay. Doom more tense and eery. I can't decide.

Both games get 7/10 and are owned by Metroid Prime \o/

/me wants another 90 bucks for Metroid Prime on his Gamecube

 

[Warbie]

Start saving! You won't regret it.

Metroid is more of a first person adventure game than a shooter. It's still far better than anything to come out on the pc in ages. (if anything, playing Doom 3 emphasises how polished and well crafted metroid is in comparison)

You'll be nice and ready for Metroid Prime 2 aswell (which, judging by the screenshots, looks ****ing amazing)

 

[Dr0ndeh]

farcry farcry farcry. harder, longer, better.

 

[Raxxman]

Warbie mate you seem to have a serious PC game hate montage going on. Were's the love?

Oh and just an quick question, Doom 3 isn't relased here in the UK till the 13th, were'd you get your copy from?

 

[Warbie]

Warbie mate you seem to have a serious PC game hate montage going on. Were's the love?

Oh and just an quick question, Doom 3 isn't relased here in the UK till the 13th, were'd you get your copy from?

hehe - maybe you're right. It just seems a long time since we were getting original and innovative titles like SS2, Civ, Syndicate, HL etc etc

You caught me - it's a dodgy copy (if it matters, I didn't download it. My m8 turned up and handed me the install disks. That's quite hard to resist) I have pre-ordered the game already, and paid, so don't feel that guilty.

 

[Raxxman]

ah dang... was hoping to get it sooner than the 13th. I know a tonne of people that have downloaded it for the exact reason that 10 days is a long time to wait with it sitting under yah nose. Me, well I think I can stave off till I can buy it. But its a long wait tbh.

As for Prime, well no argues there. It's a superb game, which plays a lot like Zelda (which is not a bad thing ) it looks very nice too. Simply cannot wait for Prime 2 (or the new Zelda for that matter.

 

[Harryz]

if anything carmack shouldve just made a mod in far cry, and not waste years on the engine he built.

Thats quite easily the probably most ridicolous thing I've heard.