Far Cry - What am i missing?

[Soundwave]

you can quicksave, you just have to use the console to do it. bring the console down and type \save_game gamename and it'll save it. type \load_game gamename to load it.

 

[DarkStar]

I loved Far Cry. You can't play it like any old shooter. To actually plan what you should or what you could do in a situation is what makes the game fun.

If you make every moment a "run, shoot" one then yes, the game will get boring. Take advantage of being able to sneak around. You don't have to kill everyone.

Exactly. The game is what you make of it. The AI is higly susceptible to stealth, which is a rarity in FPS games. People go in with guns blazing because they expect that from a FPS, although that is not what Far Cry is all about. Use tactics and stealth and Far Cry not only becomes the current pinnacle of graphics, it becomes the game to beat in terms of gameplay as well.

 

[Spiffae]

Exactly. The game is what you make of it. The AI is higly susceptible to stealth, which is a rarity in FPS games. People go in with guns blazing because they expect that from a FPS, although that is not what Far Cry is all about. Use tactics and stealth and Far Cry not only becomes the current pinnacle of graphics, it becomes the game to beat in terms of gameplay as well.

my experience with stealth was only so-so. inevitably, as i sneak up on one guy, three others see me, and then 20 others are called in, and then the helicopter, and then the game is up... maybe i'll give it a shot though, 20,000 people can't all be wrong - or can they?

 

[Mr-Fusion]

You're not missing anything. It's a great engine but a crap game. Vehicles are a lot of fun but it's a crap game. Physics are nice but it's a crap game. Story is crap but it's a crap game.

 

[Spiffae]

You're not missing anything. It's a great engine but a crap game. Vehicles are a lot of fun but it's a crap game. Physics are nice but it's a crap game. Story is crap but it's a crap game.

lol

well, i'll just have to buy the game and see what i think. it seems like no one can agree here.

 

[Sparta]

Gameplay is good but gets worse as you get through the game.
Story is predictable and lame.
Graphics are absolutely awesome, but somewhat cartoony
AI is good but not as great as everyone makes it out to be. I agree with the guy who wrote the IGN review of it, where he says :

I've always wondered why no one apparently tried to license the AI of the Marines in Half-Life, because after that, I was always a little bit disappointed with the FPSs that came after. And finally someone has answered the call and the creatures here are actually smart.

Overall, if you buy the game you'll realise that its basically any other shooter out but with better AI. Its by far, the prettiest game out, but not the best. The game throws you into situations you've been in 100 times before and doesn't do a great job of trying to get you feeling like it should matter to you, if you don't finish the game.

 

[Pi Mu Rho]

I enjoyed Far Cry, but it really doesn't do anything special, gameplay-wise.

If they'd put co-op in from the start, they would have had a killer hit on their hands.

However, the lacklustre multiplayer and awful mod support is killing it off early.

 

[Sulkdodds]

I can't undestand how it's possible to think the HL grunts have better AI than FC mercs... HL grunts didn't make use of gun-turrets or vehicles unless they were scripted to, they weren't as good at getting behind cover and they didn't work as effectively in teams. HL's grunt AI was great for it's time but now most games have AI as good as, or better than it.

Tip: Shoot enemies in the head for quick kills.

 

[Sparta]

I found that the grunts in HL were harder on "hard" difficulty then the mercs in Far Cry on "hard". Also the grunts were faster and lobbed grenades frequently, and did work rather well in a team, just like Far Cry. I say the A.I in Far Cry is about as equal as half-life's AI.

The only AI that's been as good/close to HL's AI so far, would have to be Far Cry's

I still have faith with Valve when they talk about the A.I in HL2. Because if a new developer can only now equal/better that same level of AI 6 years later, think of what Valve could've done with their's by now

 

[torso boy]

Pandora Tomorrow's multiplayer pulled me away from it...

Now Theres a fun game!...Well...at least multi

 

[Soundwave]

The only AI that's been as good/close to HL's AI so far, would have to be Far Cry's

Halo's AI is way above Half-Life's. So it's not just Far Cry.

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formerly justindugard

 

[clarky003]

yeh but Halo is a bit more dynamic than Half life, but no where near as kool, anyway there games, not real life, I suggest you go pick on a gang of thugs in the street, if you want some realistic violence and AI.

I found this pick of farcry rendered on the 6800 ultra, and it jus looks awsome, id appreciate if someone could find a bigger one. this smallish one is all i could find, but the rendering is wonderfully clear , better detail draw distance. and sharper dynamic shadows rather than shadow maps, and just generally better looking.

 

[Sui]

id just like to say, i am now officially going to purchase farcry. That £60 isnt going to spend itslef, and amazon will do the shopping for me

 

[Rico]

I played both the SP demos and I was in the multiplayer game. I was originally looking forward to the game but it was all ruined when I actually got to play the game. The graphics themselves weren't bad, but the ywere not as amazing as people claim, the worst part is that they consume so much computer power that they make the rest of the game choppy on normal computers.

Another issue is the game itself, you can have "amazing" A.I but if you can't figure out how to use it well and create situations where the AI will exploit it's capabilities then the feature is worthless. Welcome to FarCry. Then we move on to how it "feels", personally I didn't feel this disembodied in an FPS since I was aking maps in worldcraft, moving the camera in the 3d view. Just imagine yourself in worldcraft, put a jungle map in the 3d view and a gun model to the bottom right and then move around, that's how FarCry felt to me.

Plot? What plot?

Multiplayer. This had to be the biggest joke ever... I was optimistic at first about the multiplayer even though the first few builds they gave us were crap, then I waited for the next builds and lo and behold craptastic. It was funny to watch them fix all the non-issues to leave the most glaring bugs and problems in. In fact, the way the whole beta was handled was as if they had their own schedule and they were sticking to the changes they had already planned before the beta. All the feedback they got and they still didn't fix a single issue. Of course they released some of the worst multiplayer in a while... they didn't listen to the players. I also knew this wouldn't be one of those heavily moddable games that you will enjoy for a long time due to lack of community support. All they did was give a manual to their editor and provide people with an editor that allowed the easy creation of open maps. Nobody said you could create nice indoor environments as easy as that did they?

So to cut it short: I don't care how many good reviews this game gets, I trust my own opinion as a gamer and if you feel like listening to it then I advice you not to get it. If you ever do want to get it anyways wait for it to be in the bargain bin, because this game is sure to be there in a few months.

FarCry is the gaming equivalent of pop bands, everyone seems to agree that they are talented but if you ask anyone who knows anything about music about it they will tell you they are overrated pop idols.

 

[Soundwave]

Is that final sentence implying that because I like Far Cry I know nothing about gaming? That's sure what it looks like. I'm hoping not, I left TNL to get away from that elitist shit.

 

[AmishSlayer]

I liked Far Cry actually.

Saying that HL's AI is even in the same league as Far Cry's really surprised me. Going back to it and playing on hard...I still find the game to be really easy. The AI is very predictable and sometimes they don't even shoot at me when they should. Grunts yelling, "Grenade" or whatever really makes it that much easier to take them down because they all run for cover crouching. If you toss a grenade anywhere near them, they run off and cower allowing you ample time to take them down with ease.

I think the AI in HL was great for its time, but Far Cry's is way better.

Halo's AI is also very good. They don't really utilize squad tactics like in FC, but it's much better than HL's as well.

 

[IonGorilla]

There have been games with better individual bot AI then halflife but imo no game has ever done group AI as well as HL. Far crys AI is good, the enemies work together, flank you...etc but to me it always seems like they were just drifting from one spot to another. In Hl it felt like the marines really wanted to kill you, like an actual fight.

 

[Soundwave]

I must have a different version of Far Cry, the enemies are relentless to take you down, they just do it in a careful manner for the most part. There are also of course times where they will advance from cover to cover, firing the whole way. The AI is truly excellent in that respect, I just can't grasp that someone would say HL's ai is better, preferable perhaps, but better? Eh I dunno

 

[Rico]

Soundwave: Those are just my views on the game at hand, you don't have to agree with them if you don't like.

I'm simply giving my honest opinion as a gamer, I think anyone interested in FarCry deserves to hear both sides of the argument before making a choice and it seems reviewers are praising FC as the second coming when it's nothing more than pretty fireworks and special effects. Neat features here and there don't make a game.

If it helps any I thought some of the sound effects were good, like some ambient noises and gunshots fading away in the distance through the use of reverb. Ummm, it has water shaders? I guess that helps.

 

[Soundwave]

Nah man I don't mind that you didn't like the game too much. That's perfectly easy to understand, it's all opinions. But that final sentence in your post, I read it as saying "The people who think Far Cry is a good game are the equivalent of MTV teeny boppers who listen to shitty artists but claim they are talented".

 

[Sparta]

Halo's AI is way above Half-Life's. So it's not just Far Cry.

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formerly justindugard

True, Halo did have better AI. Still Far Cry's AI isn't that good.

my AI ranking

1.Halo (The elites are damn fun to fight)
2.Half-Life (The grunts react much quicker to Far Cry's, and the AI of the Special Ops is awesome)
3.Far Cry (Better AI then most FPS, but personally i reckon the AI is overrated)

 

[Sulkdodds]

FarCry is the gaming equivalent of pop bands, everyone seems to agree that they are talented but if you ask anyone who knows anything about music about it they will tell you they are overrated pop idols.

Except those pop bands of which you speak of are undisputedly rubbish, whereas with far Cry opinions are divided between those who like it and those who hate it. It seems this is one game you either love or hate, and as far as I'm concerned, even though I love it, both opinions are equally valid.

The AI in Half-Life was really good but it seems to me it has more effect because it was the first ever decent human AI. The other thing is that you fought them in pretty enclosed spaces. Try making an HL map and putting grunts in somethign like Far Cry: I guarantee you that even if you've laid down all the nodes properly etc, they will show their true limitations.

That said, I wasn't that impressed with the AI in Halo. Sure, it performs well, but unlike that of FC or HL, it has never managed to outflank or outsmart me.

And the HL grunts are still brilliant.

 

[Sui]

Except those pop bands of which you speak of are undisputedly rubbish, whereas with far Cry opinions are divided between those who like it and those who hate it. It seems this is one game you either love or hate, and as far as I'm concerned, even though I love it, both opinions are equally valid.

[ voice of obi-wan kenobi ] youre fighting a losing battle, sulkdodds. one day you will discover, just as i did, that forumites are mainly good at one thing... persisting! in order to truly win this discusiion, you must hone your jedi skills to the fullest before victory wil be in your grasp. [ /voice of obi-wan kenobi ]

sorry, i just wanted an excuse to speak bullshit.

 

[Spiffae]

Well, I bought the game... I just finished the first demo level (now i'm hang gliding), and it's pretty much exactly what I expected... nice visuals (VERY nice, in some parts) but still, the gameplay never gets much better than "pretty good" i've been doing work all day, and if i have a free minute, sure, maybe i'll play it... this is in no way a must-play title, however.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Ah well. Seems FC is a very subjective game.

 

[Mr-Fusion]

Well, I bought the game... I just finished the first demo level (now i'm hang gliding), and it's pretty much exactly what I expected... nice visuals (VERY nice, in some parts) but still, the gameplay never gets much better than "pretty good" i've been doing work all day, and if i have a free minute, sure, maybe i'll play it... this is in no way a must-play title, however.

Yup. Most of the enjoyment is from the stunning visuals and resulting immersiveness.

The engine is great, no doubts there. The game, unfortunately, blows a huge pile of chunks.