Finally Crysis, Bring it on (Warning!!!!! Bragging alert)

[Barney Fife]

OK, I'm done. I did put together what I think would keep me away from Crysis nightmares at the cost of $3400.00 (Why would I lie?) after lots of RMAs and loosing money on restocking fees, I'm happy with what I got and what I made it out of.
First I did get X2 6000+ but the thing ran so hot, OCing even 200MHz was time consuming so I settled for the X2 5600+ which runs at 85W Vs the 6000+ AT 125w 200MHz is very easily reachable.
The case, I bought (I did like the Antec 900) When I was building A8N32 SLI Deluxe for my sister, this case definitely was never design for those 8800 bastards. The little case became like one of those portable space heaters. I swear my basement temp must went up by minimum of ten degrees. Chipset temp was almost 60 degrees. So I went back to my old TT big-case which helped a lot (space and Temp-wise) and moved my DFI system to Antec 900 for my little girl when she starts school next year. I still must get two more high RPM 90mm fans.

So mid-size case is absolute No! No! when linking graphic cards on those GTXs, the GTSs are fine because my sister's is linked with two GTSs and she has not much heat problem.

I kind thought about the heat when buying the Antec 900 case but I didn't think the thing would also be my basement heater.:hmph:
I did basically made all drives SATA so to minimize wire buildup, and I have to thank Asus for the introduction of Spiral-wrapers and tie-bases.:thumbs: Sometimes the most brilliant idea is in the head of others, that's why I encourage help seeking fellas to read the stickies. So heat generating 8800GTXs are well behaving now.

Here are some Galleries so feel free to ask for inputs if you like.

11709 on 3DMark score, the 7 guys ahead of me all have the X2 62 (Which is the same chip as 5600+) pushed pass 3GHz so its the CPU that gave them more score

 

[Naudian]

Why not build a core 2 duo system? Don't they perform way better when overclocked and cost pretty cheap too?

 

[Hazar]

I couldn't stand having that little mouse space

 

[CyberPitz]

I couldn't stand having that little mouse space

That's what I was thinking.

But I'd, personally, rather get a quad core intel system. That would do it.

Then again, I'd be poor as shit.

 

[Barney Fife]

Why not build a core 2 duo system? Don't they perform way better when overclocked and cost pretty cheap too?

To be honest with you the reasons why I stick with AMD are; I wasn't much satisfied with socket 775 MBs, they're basically cheap build and not much option on OC settings MHO, the only one I did like was the Striker Extreme (Which is basically Crosshair in disguise) but the thing costs over $300.00, plus another $100.00 or so for E6700, which adds up, also AMD has still some chips to come on socket AM2 and the performance is about 10% higher for Intel which doesn't make a whole lots of difference in gaming. And I happy with 3Dmark results.
But the main reason is that the freaking Motherboard and me were like "Love at first site" kind of bonding, and when I lid up that board it freaking becomes and light up like SimCity4, I mean the board looks like a freaking city even memory slots have street lights lol.
But that's not why I like this board (I bought board then shopped for the CPU, not the other way around) this is the most stable board made thus, as far as design and OCing is concern all the way around at every little detail you can think of is already thought about on this board, This is a beautiful and hard worker in one. Search the reviews if you already done so.

I couldn't stand having that little mouse space

I love the G5 mouse and the G15 KB, I seen lots of high remarks on these guys, here at Halflife2 and elsewhere, But when I got em I was like "Hey! Wait a sec, they're huge" But you can adjust and configure them anyway and however you wish, their size problem will fade away.

 

[63]

Your sig burns my eyes! WITH AWESOMENESS!!

 

[Hazar]

I love the G5 mouse and the G15 KB, I seen lots of high remarks on these guys, here at Halflife2 and elsewhere, But when I got em I was like "Hey! Wait a sec, they're huge" But you can adjust and configure them anyway and however you wish, their size problem will fade away.

I have the g7, but you still need some room to move it around, even at the highest resolution setting.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

Dude, I'm gonna eat your deskspace.

 

[Stigmata]

You probably spent too much on your RAM, since all AM2 boards only support up to DDR2-800 speeds.

But all in all, nice system

 

[giant384]

You probably spent too much on your RAM, since all AM2 boards only support up to DDR2-800 speeds.

But all in all, nice system

you must not know the ways of overclocking lol. its still faster ram. it will make up for it by dropping the mhz automatically and raising the cas latency.

 

[3ssence]

it will make up for it by dropping the mhz automatically and lowering the cas latency.

Wrong way round. If anything, when running DDR2 1000 at 800mhz the Cas latency would be lowered, not raised.

 

[The Brick]

Your mainboard might be more stable, but my e6300 still runs considerably faster than your cpu. And my mainboard (P5B Deluxe) supports the core 2 quad chips.

I'm jealous of those 8800's though.

 

[Griz]

11709 on 3DMark score, the 7 guys ahead of me all have the X2 62 (Which is the same chip as 5600+) pushed pass 3GHz so its the CPU that gave them more score

pfft, I get that score (or thereabouts) with just one 8800GTX!?!

 

[Barney Fife]

Your sig burns my eyes! WITH WESOMENESS!!

Lol Thanks. Send me the doctor bill.

I have the g7, but you still need some room to move it around, even at the highest resolution setting.

I meant configuring mouse sensitivity and movement; I have to move mouse maybe one inch for the cursor to move across the screen. Get into mouse property and see if you can set mouse to move faster.

Dude, I'm gonna eat your deskspace.

Al have you shot if you even move towards my desktop. Lol

You probably spent too much on your RAM, since all AM2 boards only support up to DDR2-800 speeds. But all in all, nice system

I could get the 800s but then you wont have much room to OC in the future. I like these 1000s because the headroom of these RAMS makes it possible to have your way around with FSB without even worrying about memory cooperation, even then tighten the timing. Remember I'm upgrading here lol.
5.5.5.15 @ 2T 30 on trc on stock timing, my FSB is running at 231MHz x13 and I could still lower (Tightening) timing to 4.4.4.14 @2T at 24 on trc, maybe even more if I try or in the future. I could even try to drop the command rate 1T, but getting almost 12000 point at 3Dmark what's the point? If you look at the CPU-Z, these bad boys are running at 429MHz (858MHz) at lower timing, almost DDR2 1000. I doubt DDR2 800 could run that much higher speed with their stock timing.
If I have to, I can still play around with their timing more. It's all about FSB/memory cooperation, why people buy higher speed modules with loose timing, not the high-speed modules with tight timing, then you will have to loosen up.
These PC2 8000 modules work now and will in the future just as good.
Price-wise? Go and have a look around, PC2 6400 and PC2 8000 are not much different in prices, it always depends on the actual module, there are many PC2 6400 way more expensive than PC2 8000.

Your mainboard might be more stable, but my e6300 still runs considerably faster than your cpu. And my mainboard (P5B Deluxe) supports the core 2 quad chips.

I'm jealous of those 8800's though.

True. Boards are what we should really consider before CPUs. CPUs can only do few things which is compute bunch of Is and 0s, but the magic lays within the motherboard, and in case you're upgrading, its always a great idea to get the best motherboard and a good CPU.
I intend to upgrade CPU within the next couple of years but motherboard stays with me forever.
U can OC almost anything in your board but what makes that possible and maintain the stability is the motherboard.
I bought my 754 DFI LP Ultra (Best board at its time and era) 5 years ago and after 3 CPUs 2800, 3200 and 3400 my little daughter is now waiting for it. Boards should last very long time that not only you but your kids will also use em. Lol.
This board has so many options to rub and massage your fire breathing components, option like under-performing fan alarms, overvolting/undervolting alarms (PSU Hiccups) temp alarms, shutdown/wake-up options (Not to spend too much time on PC), Full x16 by x16 SLI mode nforce 590 versus x8 by x8 SLI, I can go on and on with this but then again I don't wanna brag.
Its not even fair to Asus to come up with a board this good with a cheap price tag, yes $234.00 is cheap for this board, because her sister (Striker Extreme) sells at $350.00.
So go ahead mock my CPU but there will be a time I'm gonna make you feel it, feel it I tell ya.
As long as you're jealous of my 8800, I'm OK.

Thanks Brick.

pfft, I get that score (or thereabouts) with just one 8800GTX!?!

Pfft! Even though I'm still in the middle of configuring, I love to see a link.

 

[The Brick]

pfft, I get that score (or thereabouts) with just one 8800GTX!?!

Are you sure you're running 3DMark06?


Also Barney, I agree that a mainboard is one of the most important choices in a pc, but I don't look to keep it for four years. I prefer the "upgrade every year, new pc every 3 years" solution. So my first upgrade at the end of this year will probably only be a new graphics card, and I can imagine going for a new cpu (intel quad probably) with another gpu the year after. By then there will be new mainboards for new cpus (45nm), which your board will not support.

I always buy the best price/performance in the high-end segment, because I feel that the very high end will not be worth it in the end. Say getting a pc which gives 10fps in 3 years for $1000, instead of a pc which can do 13fps by then, but cost twice as much when you bought it.

 

[Alan00000]

You got pm !

Nice pc man i'm also a hard core crysis fan i couldnt wait to get a new pc just for crysis, i hate games that make my wallet cry but it has to be done i cant play great looking games at low settings i mean c'mon.

 

[Barney Fife]

Are you sure you're running 3DMark06?


Also Barney, I agree that a mainboard is one of the most important choices in a pc, but I don't look to keep it for four years. I prefer the "upgrade every year, new pc every 3 years" solution. So my first upgrade at the end of this year will probably only be a new graphics card, and I can imagine going for a new cpu (intel quad probably) with another gpu the year after. By then there will be new mainboards for new cpus (45nm), which your board will not support.

I always buy the best price/performance in the high-end segment, because I feel that the very high end will not be worth it in the end. Say getting a pc which gives 10fps in 3 years for $1000, instead of a pc which can do 13fps by then, but cost twice as much when you bought it.

Agreed. I bought this system for the next 3-4 years. Dual-core isn't taken advantage of 100% just yet. Few games like Q4 just released game-patch for dual systems at the moment. Most games now use single-core some dual but very few. Everything above 1024x768 is Video-card dependent at the moment.
I figured why push myself way ahead of time when dual-core isn't even 100% used yet? FEAR gave me over 400 FPS on middle settings @1680x1050 at 90% of the time and 114 FPS 90% on ultra settings (8x AA and 16x AF) Eye-candy, and every single setting maxed @1680x1050.
I also believe that games will have to come out on dual-core dependent than quad for the next three years. Also more energy efficient AMDs would also start showing up in AM2 socket. Remember game is not over just yet.
So I do have time and I will be in the game for long time to come. And when I'm outdated like I just was with my 754 LP, well sweet, it's time to spend some Tax-Dollar. lol

 

[Barney Fife]

After long and tedious battle (Like in the octagon with the IceMan) It is a SUCCESS!!!.
My OC and its stability results are in.
I now have X2 6000+ for the price of X2 5600+.
Temperature 44/55 in 12Hrs prime torture.
Temperature 34/45 in normal/gaming operations.

3Dmark06 Results

Prime95 Results:

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F.E.A.R Results:

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Crysis, BRING IT ON!!! :sniper:

 

[Ridge]

Yeah Im looking forward to seeing what my games do now...

Old system:
P4 2.8Ghz
2Gb PC2700
250Gb IDE HD
Radeon X1600XT 512mb AGP

New System:
E6400 2x2.13Ghz
4Gb DDR2 533Mhz
500Gb SATA
Radeon X1650GT 256mb PCI-e

 

[giant384]

Yeah Im looking forward to seeing what my games do now...

Old system:
P4 2.8Ghz
2Gb PC2700
250Gb IDE HD
Radeon X1600XT 512mb AGP

New System:
E6400 2x2.13Ghz
4Gb DDR2 533Mhz
500Gb SATA
Radeon X1650GT 256mb PCI-e

why not 2gigs and better video card?

 

[Ridge]

Because 4 is more than 2. XP SP2 supports 4Gb of RAM.

And I won the video card last fall at a gaming convention...its just to hold me over until DX10 cards start to appear...

 

[Top Secret]

Unfortunatly I can't agree with your computer, at all.

I've built two computers for a customer, both in the same price range.

These included 6800 Core 2 Quad cores, dual 8800 GTX's, an Audigy XFi, all on an evga 680i board (Revision 2) 500 gig SATA 2 drive, etc etc

For the money, I cannot for the life of me figure out why you went with a high end AMD system. Intel is simply killing AMD in the mid-high end market. Their only saving grace right now is the Opteron 165-170 and the 3800+ X2 with a gigabyte board.

 

[Ridge]

Gotta agree there...Intel is kicking AMD's ass in the hi-po market...

 

[DEATHMASTER]

Because 4 is more than 2. XP SP2 supports 4Gb of RAM.

And I won the video card last fall at a gaming convention...its just to hold me over until DX10 cards start to appear...

Sell it and and the other 1600 and get an 8800.

 

[Barney Fife]

Unfortunatly I can't agree with your computer, at all.

I've built two computers for a customer, both in the same price range.

These included 6800 Core 2 Quad cores, dual 8800 GTX's, an Audigy XFi, all on an evga 680i board (Revision 2) 500 gig SATA 2 drive, etc etc

For the money, I cannot for the life of me figure out why you went with a high end AMD system. Intel is simply killing AMD in the mid-high end market. Their only saving grace right now is the Opteron 165-170 and the 3800+ X2 with a gigabyte board.

You cannot compare 5600+ to quad-core; it's like you putting heavyweight in the ring with a lightweight, totally different class.
And I sincerely disagree with you; spending the same amount of money I spent for the specifications you have stated. Otherwise you gonna have to link me to the site you made the killing at.
MB, CPU (Quad-Core) and the dual GTX, will drive your wallet almost to $2300.00, and you have to come back for the sound card.
My price is the entire and complete setup in my sig, (Please check my sig) Including monitor, Antec 900 case, OS, PC2 1000 chips Etc, Etc.

As far as CPU performance/choice is concern, I cannot go into lots of details, I don't have the time, but I'll make it nice and short: These performance craps you keep hearing about? Are from CPU dependant benchmarking reports, but when it comes to games its all about the video card.
If comparing: The 5600+ has the same performance as the E6400, maybe 10% more or less, with almost the same price tags.

Intel can never repair the damage it has done to my satisfactory and the confidence.
You and I (well I don't know about you) could not afford Pentium 10yrs ago, so to shut us up and rob AMD off of their "Poor Consumers" Intel gave us the Celeron.
AMD PCs were selling half the price of Intel P PCs 10yrs ago. Intel had PC and MB manufacturers on a choke-hold so AMD couldn't get market, until AMD took Intel to court.
AMD is what made possible for us to get little more extra bang for our bucks by OC and playing ever harder.
To be honest with you; I have never owned Intel chip in any form or shape, except that one time I bought that crappy Celeron and I'll never will never buy Intel again.
This is almost 20yrs old disappointment and hatred for Intel talking, and Conroe cannot fix it.
AM2 is the leading socket for AMD and the (Intel vs. AMD) game has just started again.
AMD never did let me down when I was broke and going to school, why would I turn my back on them now?
AMD is not new to being Underdog.
I'm staying with AMD as long it can kick-start my games. Lol




But please check your receipt again and compare the items you bought for the price, if what you said is true or not, either you or the seller is right about now banging head against the wall. Cuz 6800 does not come in quad and Opteron 165, 170 don't come in socket AM2, so sorry.

Yes I'm extreme, diehard AMD fanboy, AMD is what made you and I and taught you and I. You disloyal SOBs, never forget to thank AMD for conroe.
Matter of fact I'm gonna change my avatar....Just watch it.

 

[Pain86]

Cool pc.

 

[Maxi]

Wheres the second screen?

Thank god I'm not a gamer, 3d cards are insanely expensive. Just give me 4 gig of ram, 1TB+ of storage and a dual core CPU and I'm happy. Oh yeah, and two screens (currently running one 22 inch widescreen and one 19 inch normal".

 

[Barney Fife]

Cool pc.

Thanks. I needed that

Wheres the second screen?

Damn, second screen? Have mercy on me man.

It seems to me that I made a mistake about dual-booting and memory reservation for Prime. However I did corrected this by Stress-testing system again once more for more than 12Hrs. This time full dual-core and memory stress-test reserving more than 95% of system RAM exclusively for prime.
Its still official without any pumps. It's still a success.

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