Forty years from now. What's worse?

What concerns you most in 40 years?


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In forty years, I believe it is estimated that we will have exhausted all the available oil in the ground to be had. Some people view this as being catastrophic and perhaps affecting mankind in more ways than we can count if we do not get off our dependency of oil.

It seems to be the big topic of discussion, the most contentious event plaguing us as a combined species. At least, that's the way the media makes it sound.

The second big topic of discussion, is Global Warming. Sure, this is a big issue. Dramatically changing weather patterns. Melting of the ice caps, rising levels of the ocean. This will undoubtedly have some significant impact on us in 40 years, when things become much worse.

The thing that concerns me most though, oddly enough, is the disappearance of every single rainforest on earth in 30-40 years. I read a statistic that rain forests are losing 1 acre every second. Every second we lose an entire acre of rainforest. Most of us live on properties that are less than an acre large, and it may seem small to you, but just do the calculations.

I did the calculations, and there are a little over 31 million seconds in every year. Extend this out a bit using the number of acres the Brazilian rain forest contains, which is only a mere 1.2 billion acres, and we see the complete loss of the rain forest at the current rate in under 40 years. Let alone the other rain forests of the world.

I can only see this rate of decrease increasing over the years, as populations continue to grow and demand for real estate increases.


When you stop to think about everything we as a modern society derive from the rain forest and can derive from it for future medical advances, it begins to become scary, very scary. And it saddens me that rain forest preservation seems to be a side issue these days, less important than terrorism, less important than the oil crisis.

I'm sure people will be singing a different tune once we get that far along... but most politicians today won't even have to be around to deal with those consequences.



I voted rainforest depletion. Why? Because at least we're getting more proactive about changing that fate... but we continue to let our rain forests die.
 
I'll probably be dead, so it won't matter to me (Yes I plan to die around 56), but I'd say oil is the biggest thing. Think about it - EVERYTHING needs oil. Not directly, but the machines that run to make your shirt, for example, they need lubrication.. We are so reliant on machines to make stuff for us, when oil is gone sales of pretty much EVERYTHING will plummet.
 
Yes, even global warming and chopping down the rain forests need oil
 
Among the three, I'm saddened about the rainforest. Apparently a whole host of people never watched Ferngully. :(

Oil is likely to be replaced by something else, no big. If the icecaps melt, hey, I enjoyed Waterworld.

It's all moot anyway, once the giant, all-consuming comet of 2014 hits.
 
But by the time oil has run out, each will have become oh so much worse. The rain forests will be gone, and global warming will be twice as bad as it is now.
 
I was about to go with "complete loss of every rain forest" but decided to go with "global warming" instead, since it's a current issue and all that.

how many times are we allowed to guess?
 
What about the impending recession, and subsequently the Police State option?. I'll choose that one.
 
I didn't include all possibilities. I don't want things like nuclear war and all the other things clouding the poll.

These are 100% certainties currently, not 'what ifs'.
 
Oil Crisis.

But we could be engaged in World War 3, or the entire western powers turned into police states.
 
I don't worry as much about rainforest destruction and peak oil as I do about global warming, simply because (from what I have gathered) there is really nothing we can do about it. Sweden has already proved to some extent that a country can be productive without using exessive amounts of oil, and the rainforest can be preserved provided we bitch-slap the right lumber company excecutives.

Global warming, on the other hand, is a rolling snowball. And apparently its too big to stop it now. And from what I've read, human carbon emmisions barely make a dent in the warming trend. So basiclally, even if the entire planet went carbon cold-turkey, we would still be ****ed over by global warming. Might as well invest in some property in central California, because it will probably be beachfront property in the future.

Another thing that troubles me (perhaps even moreso than global warming) is world population overgrowth. The world population in 2050 is predicted to be about 9.4 billion people. 9.4 billion overcroweded and hungry people. At the current rate of population growth, we are going to exceed the earth's capacity for sustaining human life awfully soon. Once that happens, people will start dieing in droves. The population will obviously taper off by then, but it won't be pretty. And I wouldn't be suprised if desparate future governments used "unorthodox" methods of population control (eg the Holocaust, only bigger). Stoping greedy South Americans from chopping trees is one thing, but stopping the entire world from f*cking is god-damned impossible.

Also, here are some facts about the rainforst: http://www.rain-tree.com/facts.htm. Pretty sad that it will probably be gone within our lifetimes :(.

So yeah, in summary: the world is pretty much ****ed.

EDIT:

Here are so more ways we could be ****ed: http://www.exitmundi.nl/exitmundi.htm
Personally, I'm a fan of the global nuclear war scenario. Humanity is always finding more effecient ways to blow itself up.
 
Doesn't the earth go through ice ages on it's own anyways?

*watches Day After Tomorrow*
 
Oil crisis which will probably lead to nuclear war. WWI started over much less.
 
Seems to me that while all the issues are important and disasterous, an oil crash would have the most immediate and initially devastating response. The other two might be more problematic in more profound and long-lasting ways, but are unlikely to be as prominent in the near future.
 
None, I won't give a shit. DEATH HERE I COME
/Romeo
 
Oil Crisis by some way. The other two are serious problems, but I think the former has the power to cause the most death... and if it happens, it may even cancel out the other two (since Oil powers most of the vehicles that cause global warming anyway, right?)

Though if alternative fuel really fails, we can always hope that oil will be so precious that people won't want to / cannot afford to waste it on fueling planes, rockets and other vehicles.
 
Oil Crisis by some way. The other two are serious problems, but I think the former has the power to cause the most death... and if it happens, it may even cancel out the other two (since Oil powers most of the vehicles that cause global warming anyway, right?)

Though if alternative fuel really fails, we can always hope that oil will be so precious that people won't want to / cannot afford to waste it on fueling planes, rockets and other vehicles.

Yeah was gonna say that. If WW3 begins over the oil crisis, wouldn't last long since, oil is essential in most weapons of war nowadays lol.
 
We're going to start killing ourselves over what's left before we hit 40 years from now on.
 
Since I will be 74 in 40 years my biggest worry is impotence.

EDIT Ah, Bad Hat beat me to it.
 
The bird technology will interview so many different variaties in the full.
 
I don't worry about anything.

Don't get me wrong, I am as anxiety ridden and paranoid as most of you "well off" westerners with our "perfect" lifestyles. I just don't panic over big things that are beyond my control.

I keep most of my neurosis' on individual personal things, like "am I a bad human being?". That kind of thing.

So in short, its a shame the rain forests are disappearing, good riddance to oil, and I have no control over global warming whatsoever so, overall, can't say it bothers me.
 
oil depletion. Frankly, I want to see what the world is going to do when oil gets completely depleted.
 
So in short, its a shame the rain forests are disappearing, good riddance to oil, and I have no control over global warming whatsoever so, overall, can't say it bothers me.

I feel the same way. However the problem is most people(more or less) feel this way. Just like with the "by stander syndrome"(or whatever it's called), you say: meh, it doesn't bother me, someone else will do something about it". Everyone says that and eventually no one does anything thinking the others will do something...:|

Edit:

oil depletion. Frankly, I want to see what the world is going to do when oil gets completely depleted

Steampunk FTW
 
We're already capable of managing without oil, we just need it to run out before we actually do anything about it. Losing every rainforest is unlikely unless linked to global warming. I think the biggest threat is climate change, though 40 years is probably too short to have any real damaging effects. Still, it's the biggest threat in that list.
 
From what I've gathered, there is plenty of oil for hundreds of years. It's just becoming harder and harder to produce in the quantities we require while the demand for it only increases (peak oil). So if we manage to get rid of our oil dependency for energy, the demand for oil drops and there should be plenty of oil for its other uses like the production of plastic and asphalt.
 
global warming by a long shot.

Oil crisis? in 40 years there will without a doubt be other resources
Rainforests? many are protected, w.e

global warming however is already taking major tolls on society
 
Oil won't be a problem because we'll have found an alternative by then.
 
I voted for global warming. But honestly both of them worry me. As people in this thread have said mostly everything needs oil in some shape of form. But then again global warming is defiantly making its appearance in the past few years.
 
Oil won't be a problem because we'll have found an alternative by then.

The problem isn't finding an alternate fuel source, it's implementing it at the same convenience as gasoline which has so far proven enormously difficult; at least for us Amerifags.
 
Am I the only one who's expecting either another World War or American civil war to take place within the next 40 years?
 
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