Fox News Claims London Attacks Will Work To Our Advantage

Well, **** him. I don't give a **** about his agenda. Yay, terrorism is right up there in the top-****ing-ten.
 
i doubt he meant it in the sense that you are obviously taking it. its not like he's praising it, and he's got a point. this always unites us, because to be honest it is east vs west and we have to pick our friends very carefully.
 
gh0st said:
i doubt he meant it in the sense that you are obviously taking it. its not like he's praising it, and he's got a point. this always unites us, because to be honest it is east vs west and we have to pick our friends very carefully.
Must you defend Fox at every turn?

He meant that this was good because the world will now concentrate on terrorism instead of other things. How in the hell can you defend this?
 
No Limit said:
Must you defend Fox at every turn?
I defend them the same way you attack them at every turn. Learn to deal with reciprocals in life no limit, there is always someone who is the opposite of you out there.
He meant that this was good because the world will now concentrate on terrorism instead of other things. How in the hell can you defend this?
Really, is that what he meant? Or is that what "mediamatters" wants you to think?
 
gh0st said:
Really, is that what he meant? Or is that what "mediamatters" wants you to think?
They have the whole transcript along with a video; they make no mention of what they think he meant. That is exactly what he meant. Do you have another definition? He was not talking about uniting us as you stated. He was talking about this being a good thing since it would take the issue of terrorism to the front again (a conservative plus btw).
 
Well..you have to agree the the BBC news didn't say "9-11 was good for the eastern part of the world". How can anyone agree with Fox news on this?? If you do..you got a major problem and need extremely serious help.
 
just listened to the audio clip, i'm so glad we dont have this station over here, the bias in their coverage is unbelievable.
 
You guys are dolts, you opened no limits website and saw their annotated quote.

And he [British Prime Minister Tony Blair] made the statement, clearly shaken, but clearly determined. This is his second address in the last hour. First to the people of London, and now at the G8 summit, where their topic Number 1 --believe it or not-- was global warming, the second was African aid. And that was the first time since 9-11 when they should know, and they do know now, that terrorism should be Number 1. But it's important for them all to be together. I think that works to our advantage, in the Western world's advantage, for people to experience something like this together, just 500 miles from where the attacks have happened.

All he means is that its good terrorism is once again an important issue for the g8 summit, something it SHOULD BE. so yes, in that way it benefits us, much like good things came from 9/11 and every other bad thing in history. you guys are so one dimensional, and have such a stunted and pathetic understanding of history and context. Oh and I should point out that no limits topic title, is as usual, completely discipcable and is far worse than fox news in any kind of bias.
 
Terrorism shouldn't be number 1, and I wouldn't want this meeting to be about that - that debate should saved for another time. Africa and global warming are more important than terrorism, and should be worked on right now. Terrorism is an ongoing campaign, and the discussion can be picked up at pretty much any time.
 
gh0st said:
You guys are dolts, you opened no limits website and saw their annotated quote.

And he [British Prime Minister Tony Blair] made the statement, clearly shaken, but clearly determined. This is his second address in the last hour. First to the people of London, and now at the G8 summit, where their topic Number 1 --believe it or not-- was global warming, the second was African aid. And that was the first time since 9-11 when they should know, and they do know now, that terrorism should be Number 1. But it's important for them all to be together. I think that works to our advantage, in the Western world's advantage, for people to experience something like this together, just 500 miles from where the attacks have happened.

All he means is that its good terrorism is once again an important issue for the g8 summit, something it SHOULD BE. so yes, in that way it benefits us, much like good things came from 9/11 and every other bad thing in history. you guys are so one dimensional, and have such a stunted and pathetic understanding of history and context. Oh and I should point out that no limits topic title, is as usual, completely discipcable and is far worse than fox news in any kind of bias.
did you even listen to the clip, they might aswell as have been giving each other high 5s,

''alright terrorism number 1, lets go kick some palestine butt'':rolleyes: .

also 1 dimensional:
gh0st said:
it is east vs west and we have to pick our friends very carefully.
you almost sound like you want some 21st century crusades
 
gh0st said:
You guys are dolts, you opened no limits website and saw their annotated quote.

And he [British Prime Minister Tony Blair] made the statement, clearly shaken, but clearly determined. This is his second address in the last hour. First to the people of London, and now at the G8 summit, where their topic Number 1 --believe it or not-- was global warming, the second was African aid. And that was the first time since 9-11 when they should know, and they do know now, that terrorism should be Number 1. But it's important for them all to be together. I think that works to our advantage, in the Western world's advantage, for people to experience something like this together, just 500 miles from where the attacks have happened.

All he means is that its good terrorism is once again an important issue for the g8 summit, something it SHOULD BE. so yes, in that way it benefits us, much like good things came from 9/11 and every other bad thing in history. you guys are so one dimensional, and have such a stunted and pathetic understanding of history and context. Oh and I should point out that no limits topic title, is as usual, completely discipcable and is far worse than fox news in any kind of bias.
Your grasping at straws; the entire quote along with a VIDEO CLIP is there for you to see. I didn't misquote anything, he said what he said and you are the only one that is defending these low life assholes that don't care about life as long as their agenda is followed.

I swear, Fox news could report that John Kerry is responsible for all terrorist attacks since the civil war and you would be here defending them.
 
No Limit said:
Your grasping at straws; the entire quote along with a VIDEO CLIP is there for you to see. I didn't misquote anything, he said what he said and you are the only one that is defending these low life assholes that don't care about life as long as their agenda is followed.
grasping at straws? where did he say that he's glad these attacks happened. he can identify the immediate political benefits of them.
 
gh0st said:
he can identify the immediate political benefits of them.
Exactly, and you are defending this.
grasping at straws?
Yes, you are trying to discredit Media Matters which will never work with me.
 
I am agreeing with both Ghost and Kangy on this one, althought i don't believe Terrorism should be number 1 on the agenda of politician's, combating it should be. After 9/11, there were a number of exercises in London to help prepare Londoners and the London services for this exact event, so when the bombs actually went off, everything was in place to help save lives and everyone knew exactly what had to be done. And after today, my only hope is that we do learn from what happened today and make it harder next time for terrorists to do it again.

Yes, like i said, terrorism shouldn't be number 1 as i think global warming should be number 1 and also Africa as well, but terrorism should always be in the minds of everyone so that we don't relax and become complacent. This is what the fox guy ment, in my opinion reading from the quotes.
 
Razor said:
I am agreeing with both Ghost and Kangy on this one, althought i don't believe Terrorism should be number 1 on the agenda of politician's, combating it should be. After 9/11, there were a number of exercises in London to help prepare Londoners and the London services for this exact event, so when the bombs actually went off, everything was in place to help save lives and everyone knew exactly what had to be done. And after today, my only hope is that we do learn from what happened today and make it harder next time for terrorists to do it again.

Yes, like i said, terrorism shouldn't be number 1 as i think global warming should be number 1 and also Africa as well, but terrorism should always be in the minds of everyone so that we don't relax and become complacent. This is what the fox guy ment, in my opinion reading from the quotes.
Your opinion is fine, I disagree in some aspects but thats not the point. The point is he said that the attack will be a good thing for conservative politics. Do you honestly believe this a good thing to say on the same day that 37 people have died? Imagine if your mother died in that expolsion and you hear this asshole saying it will be an advantage to his politics.
 
Isn't terrorism only caused by countries ignoring policy at home and concentrating on messy/agressive/mean/possibly evil foreign policy.

Seriously. Terrorism isn't more important than helping the third world. It's also probably not going to seem very important if all the ice caps melt and The Day After Tomorrow happens.
 
Sulkdodds said:
Isn't terrorism only caused by countries ignoring policy at home and concentrating on messy/agressive/mean/possibly evil foreign policy.

Seriously. Terrorism isn't more important than helping the third world. It's also probably not going to seem very important if all the ice caps melt and The Day After Tomorrow happens.
I think you are right in a certain light but there are other factors to consider in to why terrorism happens. But like you said, when thousands of children are dying daily from hunger I hardly think this is the biggest of our problems.

And Ice Caps melting? Come on, according to Bush global warming doesn't exist and God will never do that to us. :rolleyes:
 
Sulkdodds said:
Isn't terrorism only caused by countries ignoring policy at home and concentrating on messy/agressive/mean/possibly evil foreign policy.

Seriously. Terrorism isn't more important than helping the third world. It's also probably not going to seem very important if all the ice caps melt and The Day After Tomorrow happens.
well, since there's not any really good way to stop global warming AND help the third world then while those are important, terrorism is a more immediate concern for countries like the US and UK
 
No Limit said:
Your opinion is fine, I disagree in some aspects but thats not the point. The point is he said that the attack will be a good thing for conservative politics. Do you honestly believe this a good thing to say on the same day that 37 people have died? Imagine if your mother died in that expolsion and you hear this asshole saying it will be an advantage to his politics.


It won't be an advantage to politics at all, unless someone tries to scaremonger which is very wrong.

edit: This is one of the big advantages though of helping Africa and the Middle East, the better the lives of people, the less likely they are to commit such disgusting attrocities.
 
Certainly it seems more likely that any violent response to this would end up killing the wrong people due to misconceptions rather than actually bagging the perpetrators of this (vile admittedly) attack.

Also, starvation and poverty kills more people than terrorism ever has. But anyway.

Personally I'm offended by the enormous lack of respect shown by that Fox News guy. People have died less than a hundred miles from where I live and this guy is saying "oh well actually in some ways it's a good thing." **** off.
 
OMG check out what these dumb guys sed!1

Or whatever. If you really have nothing better to do than wax lyrical over what some dumbass said on some retardedly partisan news, then it's your perogative.

Cue responses: but you're on a games forum, jond! Isn't it hypocritical of you to suggest that people are squandering their time when you're busy doing exactly the same thing yourself?

My point is, while the guy put his sentence together with the eloquence of a stoner eating philadelphia with a knife and is cleary an insensitive ****wad, it's really not a big deal, and you should probably just get on with your lives. That is, unless the trains are all called off because of, lets say, a terrorist attack.
 
Razor said:
It won't be an advantage to politics at all, unless someone tries to scaremonger which is very wrong.
I know, someone should tell that to Fox News.
 
He's just saying that its good for the western powers to be together at a time like this (G8), rather than seperated in their own countries. That way we can deal with it as one, rather than individual nations.
 
seinfeldrules said:
He's just saying that its good for the western powers to be together at a time like this (G8), rather than seperated in their own countries. That way we can deal with it as one, rather than individual nations.
*Bangs Head In To Wall*

No, he is saying this is a good thing because it will put the terror issue back to the front.
 
Amazing. A nation's tragedy is turned into debate ammunition on the exact day of its occurrence.

Some of you need to be introduced to the concept of shame.
 
No Limit said:
Your opinion is fine, I disagree in some aspects but thats not the point. The point is he said that the attack will be a good thing for conservative politics. Do you honestly believe this a good thing to say on the same day that 37 people have died? Imagine if your mother died in that expolsion and you hear this asshole saying it will be an advantage to his politics.
I looked at the video and read the transcript... nowhere does it say it will be a good thing for conservative politics. Honestly I'm not sure where you got that from, you must have had to stick your hand up your ass preeettyy far to pull that bullshit out. Give us a break you smacktard, it takes a absolute moron to blow his quote out of proportion like you are. Not surprisingly only you and other liberal orgs (eg media matters) are trying to discredit anybody they possibly can, blow any event out of proportion in a feeble attempt to belittle foxnews. sad really. an advantage to his politics... comprehension, no limit. youre trying way too hard.

he said its good that terrorism is back on the g8's platter. if you think thats wrong you should just kill yourself.
 
jondyfun said:
OMG check out what these dumb guys sed!1

Or whatever. If you really have nothing better to do than wax lyrical over what some dumbass said on some retardedly partisan news, then it's your perogative.

Cue responses: but you're on a games forum, jond! Isn't it hypocritical of you to suggest that people are squandering their time when you're busy doing exactly the same thing yourself?

My point is, while the guy put his sentence together with the eloquence of a stoner eating philadelphia with a knife and is cleary an insensitive ****wad, it's really not a big deal, and you should probably just get on with your lives. That is, unless the trains are all called off because of, lets say, a terrorist attack.
yes i agree, there are more important things, i rarely participate in this section of the forum coz i think its largely fruitless at times but i'm glad its here for people who use it to air their views, i also agreed with ghost's original post that we probably are taking it out of context, i thought that when i read the quote and didnt feel like posting anything but then i watched the clip, its just the arrogance of it, on the day it happened too like abs said.

anyway lets not get worked up too much. Ends participation.:)
 
No, he is saying this is a good thing because it will put the terror issue back to the front.

But it's important for them all to be together. I think that works to our advantage, in the Western world's advantage, for people to experience something like this together, just 500 miles from where the attacks have happened.
God you guys destroyed his meaning. Furthermore, I dont think its a bad thing to put terrorism at the #1 priority, doing so will only further improve international security measures. I agree with what gh0st said, but in a more mild manner ;)

I dont see you jumping on stern for blaming it on America hours after it happened.
 
seinfeldrules said:
I agree with what gh0st said, but in a more mild manner ;)
Pussy :bounce:
I dont see you jumping on stern for blaming it on America hours after it happened.
of course, why would no limit attack his master?
 
seinfeldrules said:
He's just saying that its good for the western powers to be together at a time like this (G8), rather than seperated in their own countries. That way we can deal with it as one, rather than individual nations.
That is how I read it too.

gh0st said:
Pussy :bounce:

of course, why would no limit attack his master?
Well, if you knew anything about the Sith you would know the apprentice eventualy attacks the master, educate yourself fool http://www.stuffo.com/sith.htm
 
If there is one thing that can unite human beings. If there is one thing that can bring about change, it would have to be a disaster of some sort. Whether perpetrated by an enemy or natural causes doesn't matter.

This is a disaster, it certainly has the potential to cause more unification in the western world and no one can deny that is a good thing.

I don't like Fox but assuming that was what was meant by that quote then I have to agree. This can work to the Western worlds advantage.
 
seinfeldrules said:
God you guys destroyed his meaning. Furthermore, I dont think its a bad thing to put terrorism at the #1 priority, doing so will only further improve international security measures. I agree with what gh0st said, but in a more mild manner ;)

I dont see you jumping on stern for blaming it on America hours after it happened.
The way you righties can spin anything is unbelieveable. Lets look at the full context:

KILMEADE: And he [British Prime Minister Tony Blair] made the statement, clearly shaken, but clearly determined. This is his second address in the last hour. First to the people of London, and now at the G8 summit, where their topic Number 1 --believe it or not-- was global warming, the second was African aid. And that was the first time since 9-11 when they should know, and they do know now, that terrorism should be Number 1. But it's important for them all to be together. I think that works to our advantage, in the Western world's advantage, for people to experience something like this together, just 500 miles from where the attacks have happened.

And then if you watch the video they were all pretty much chearleading around that statement:

VARNEY: It puts the Number 1 issue right back on the front burner right at the point where all these world leaders are meeting. It takes global warming off the front burner. It takes African aid off the front burner. It sticks terrorism and the fight on the war on terror, right up front all over again.

He was not talking about this being a good thing because we will be all united; he was saying that this will be good thing since all the world leaders are together at the g8 summit now and will talk about terrorism instead of aid to Africa or global warming.

And if I know Stern he had a good rational argument, he didn't just flat out say it was Americas fault (which would make him right BTW). Link to the post? If it is out of line I will say he was wrong; but for some reason I don't think I'll have to do that. :rolleyes:

gh0st, if you could have the capabnility to think just a little you would know the reason this is good for conservative politics is that fear is conservative poitics. All these Fox News guys were dancing around the fact that terrorism will be #1 again. The rest of your post tells me you don't have the mental capability to debate and I just lost the ounce of respect I had for you before that post.
 
seinfeldrules said:
God you guys destroyed his meaning. Furthermore, I dont think its a bad thing to put terrorism at the #1 priority, doing so will only further improve international security measures. I agree with what gh0st said, but in a more mild manner ;)

I dont see you jumping on stern for blaming it on America hours after it happened.


what's to jump on? you ARE to blame ..but I did mention blair but of course you ignore that cuz that wouldnt fit into your "anti-american" stereotype you've pegged me as


No Limit: this is the post seinfeldrules was referring to ..I dont think my statement needs clarification
 
The G8 meeting has failed. Despite protests by Europe, South Africa and Brazil, the UK has bended over for Bush and reduced Climate Change to a non event.
The world's scientific community is shocked, appalled, terrorized.

Meanwhile, millions of people are already suffering and dying from Climate Change, especially in Africa, so the Africa section of the G8 has dramatically failed as well (not to mention the failure to have states commit to contribute 0.7% of GDP to aid - something that was already urged for by the experts who planned the Millenium Development Goals).

We can now safely say that the world's two most dangerous men, Bush and Blair, have just killed millions of people, and created 2 billion potential terrorists.

This is a sad day for mankind. My deepest sympathies to those hundreds, thousands and millions of people, whose lives have just been turned into a death sentence. My sincere condoleances.
 
gh0st said:
he said its good that terrorism is back on the g8's platter. if you think thats wrong you should just kill yourself.

So the war on terror, which has killed some thousands, is more important than Africa's poverty, which kills thousands of children every day?
 
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