Galloway: Bombing Blair 'justified'

[baxter]

George Galloway has said the assassination of Tony Blair would be "morally justified" given his support for the war in Iraq.

The anti-war Respect MP said a suicide bomb attack on the Prime Minister would be "morally equivalent to ordering the deaths of thousands of innocent people in Iraq as Blair did".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/story/0,,-5847258,00.html

Oh what a man of peace,prick.

 

[Remus]

No matter how bad Blair is, how the hell can you call a suicide bomb attack "morally justified". By doing so you would kill not only Blair but many other people, who's only crime would be: wrong place at the wrong time.

 

[Rizzo]

Some people...

 

[Mr Stabby]

my approval rating for Tony Blair has increased, if George Galloway hates you that much, you must be doing something right

 

[Jintor]

There's never a justification for killing someone else.

 

[Remus]

There's never a justification for killing someone else.

Some people might argue with that.

 

[el Chi]

Woo woo! All aboard the Sensationalism Train! First stop; George Galloway.
By Galloway's argument, eye-for-an-eye justice is morally justified, thus it follows logically that he must also be in favour of the death penalty for murderers, thieves should have their hands cut off and so on and so forth.
Now there's an incentive to vote for Respect.

 

[Jintor]

Some people might argue with that.

But not you? ^^

 

[Remus]

Yeah but he doesn't think this eye for an eye system is to apply to him. If he knew that if he said a lie he would have his tongue cut off I'm sure he would just shut up about it.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunt.

 

[Remus]

But not you? ^^

The only instance in which I think killing someone is justified, is out of self defense.

 

[CptStern]

boy is that ever a loaded statement. Very easy to misinterpret

logically speaking he's right ...as long as you look at the flipside of things and not the emotional aspect. I cant speak for him but he seems to be saying that from the POV of a suicide attacker attacking the person(s) responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of iraqis is justified. ..if it were hitler (this doesnt invoke godwin's law) I'm sure none of you would object to his assasination during war time. It's just a matter of perspective or what side you're on.

He isnt calling for his assassination and he did say he would report it if he knew of such a plot

 

[Remus]

No, in our day and age if it were Hitler he would be put on trial just like they did with Saddam, although they should have executed him on the spot.

 

[SAJ]

Galloway: Bombing Blair 'justified'
Press Association
Friday May 26, 2006 12:38 PM


.........In an interview with GQ magazine, Mr Galloway was asked whether the assassination of Mr Blair by a suicide bomber would be justified, if there were no other casualties.

He replied: "Yes, it would be morally justified. I am not calling for it, but if it happened I believe it would be of a wholly different moral order to the events of 7/7. It would be entirely logical and explicable. And morally equivalent to ordering the deaths of thousands of innocent people in Iraq as Blair did."

Asked by interviewer Piers Morgan, a former editor of the Daily Mirror, whether he would alert the authorities to an attempt on the Prime Minister's life, Mr Galloway said he would.

He added: "Such an operation would be counter-productive because it would just generate a new wave of anti-Arab sentiment whipped up by the press. It would lead to new draconian anti-terror laws, and would probably strengthen the resolve of the British and American services in Iraq rather than weaken it. So, yes, I would inform the authorities."

Stop the press !!
Politician gives straight unambiguous answer to question from a journalist !!

 

[99.vikram]

I hate Blair. And while I'm at it, Bush and Powell.
But there are rational ways to deal with this stuff. They call it democracy. Nothing justifies murder.

 

[Laivasse]

Meh, widespread moral inconsistency on all fronts.

Galloway is a prick. But also note how if a politician condemns 1000's of innocent people in another country to death by starting an unnecessary war, the implications don't really register in people's minds. People get angry, sure, but aside from a marginalised few it's not frothing-at-the-mouth anger.

Encourage the murder of one person and everyone hates you. Sign the death warrant of 1000's and people tend to only respectfully disapprove, since they can't fully grasp the magnitude. Attack this post for perceived Galloway sympathy if you want, but all I spit on is the the lack of humility of the Blair govt and the moral inconsistency of people at in general. I couldn't care less about Galloway - he hasn't any influence aside from being a minor irritation to the govt, which I don't consider to be a bad thing.

 

[99.vikram]

Again, NOTHING justifies murder. Blair deserves to suffer, but that's a decision for God. Or a court of law.

 

[Solaris]

I totally agree with Galloway there.
100%.

 

[ríomhaire]

There's never a justification for killing someone else.

Disagree *doesn't want debate about it*

 

[el Chi]

boy is that ever a loaded statement. Very easy to misinterpret

logically speaking he's right ...as long as you look at the flipside of things and not the emotional aspect. I cant speak for him but he seems to be saying that from the POV of a suicide attacker attacking the person(s) responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of iraqis is justified. ..if it were hitler (this doesnt invoke godwin's law) I'm sure none of you would object to his assasination during war time. It's just a matter of perspective or what side you're on.

He isnt calling for his assassination and he did say he would report it if he knew of such a plot

I disagree - I don't see that he's right "logically speaking" in the slightest.
I objected to the war in Iraq; I was enfuriated at the lies we were fed; I was appalled at the violence against civilians, the unecessary loss of lives of soldiers and the torture at Camp X-Ray; Bush makes me sick to my stomach, I lament Blair because whatever he used to stand for has crumbled away as he continues to play lapdog; I feel desperation that, despite all the previous claims to the contrary, an invasion of Iran looks on the cards.
Do I think Blair deserves to be assassinated for this? No.
Can I understand why a suicide bomber might see that he deserves to be killed? Yes.
Do I see it as morally justified? Not in the slightest.

Now is that enough question talking from me? Yes, I think it is.

I totally agree with Galloway there.
100%.

I can't help but get the feeling that Galloway could fart and you would agree with it.

 

[Cormeh]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

That's as simple as I see it. Too many people have suffered and died, and continue to do so - there's absolutely no moral justification in what has happened in recent years concerning the Iraq war.

 

[CptStern]

I disagree - I don't see that he's right "logically speaking" in the slightest.
I objected to the war in Iraq; I was enfuriated at the lies we were fed; I was appalled at the violence against civilians, the unecessary loss of lives of soldiers and the torture at Camp X-Ray; Bush makes me sick to my stomach, I lament Blair because whatever he used to stand for has crumbled away as he continues to play lapdog; I feel desperation that, despite all the previous claims to the contrary, an invasion of Iran looks on the cards.
Do I think Blair deserves to be assassinated for this? No.
Can I understand why a suicide bomber might see that he deserves to be killed? Yes.
Do I see it as morally justified? Not in the slightest.

I dont think he should be assasinated ...but I'd understand the justification if he was ...imho that's all he seems to be saying. It doesnt mean that I would support his assasination ..or even bush for that matter

 

[el Chi]

He says it would be "explicable", which is true.
He says it would be "logical", this is not so true. Once again, I understand why people resort to suicide bombings, but I don't think it's morally justified nor do I think that a political assassination is justified.

To be quite frank, I think this is something more of a shameless self-promotion exercise. It usually seems he cares more about his own profile than the causes he supposedly supports.

 

[CptStern]

I'm not in the UK so admittedly I get a one sided view of Galloway ...mostly from here

http://www.alternativeradio.org/


I've listened to quite a few speeches andI dont see him any different than say Howard zinn, Chomsky or arundhati roy ..ok maybe less articulate and less knowledgeable ..and maybe even more prone to sweeping statements and generalizations ..but still his overall message is sound

 

[Solaris]

If he's going to help kill another 30,000+ civillians in Iran, then assasination is a legitimate tactic to save that many lives. It wouldn't work however, someone would just replace him.

If my familly was killed by Blairs bombings I'd want to kill him.

Edit: And cummon people read the article. He's not calling for his death, he said:
"[FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]I would much prefer to see those who prosecuted the war brought to trial at the Hague and charged with war crimes."

"[/FONT][FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]Yes, it would be morally justified. I am not calling for it, but if it happened I believe it would be of a wholly different moral order to the events of 7/7. It would be entirely logical and explicable. And morally equivalent to ordering the deaths of thousands of innocent people in Iraq as Blair did."

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[baxter]

I totally agree with Galloway there.
100%.

Of course you do.
Maybe some other lunatic will also agree with him and decide, because, it is "morally justifiable", actually do it. Maybe also in the process he not only take out Blair but a couple of dozen innocent bystanders, including half your family.

Would you still “totally agree with him”?

Sterno, believe me he is not as popular here as he maybe is overseas, as El Chi as said he shamelessly promotes himself and is a seeker of publicity though any method.

 

[CptStern]

hehe "sterno"

like I said, from the speeches I've heard his message is sound ..I cant comment on anything beyond that cuz I just dont know

 

[SAJ]

I've listened to quite a few speeches andI dont see him any different than say Howard zinn, Chomsky or arundhati roy ..

Make no mistake, Galloway is first and foremost a politician and a campaigner, not a leading radical intellectual. He is and always has been a political beast, its just that his beliefs/conclusions overlap those of Zinn, Chomsky, etc..
The comparison would be like saying Margeret Thatcher( Covervative politician) is the same as Adam Smith (economic theorist, of whom Thatcher was a great admirer).

 

[CptStern]

which doesnt come across in his anti-war speeches ..but from past comments from people from the UK I sort of got that impression

 

[SAJ]

which doesnt come across in his anti-war speeches ..

What doesnt come across in his speeches? That he is a politician?
I dont understand what you are saying Stern.

Im not saying that he isnt what he seems or that hes not genuine in what he says. He gets it alright, but he is a politician first not a thinker(as his appearence on big brother would attest to).

 

[Lemonking]

Solaris is going to end up like they guy that killed Kennedy.
anyway,saying stuff like just gets him attenion thats what all Politicians want.

 

[Asknoone]

Go away Galloway.

 

[Lemonking]

I Solaris talks about all the time like he's a demi god or something..does he have real political power or is just a" look at me I can change the UK for a better" guy?

 

[CptStern]

What doesnt come across in his speeches? That he is a politician?
I dont understand what you are saying Stern.

that he's a shamelss self promoter

Im not saying that he isnt what he seems or that hes not genuine in what he says. He gets it alright, but he is a politician first not a thinker(as his appearence on big brother would attest to).

yes but us north americans dont see that side of things ..in fact I'm willling to bet the overwhelming majority of north americans have never heard of him ...like I've stated numerous times; my impression of him comes solely from the few speeches I've listened to

 

[Asknoone]

I laughed when Galloway emerged from the Big Brother house to a round of boos.

 

[Raziaar]

I totally agree with Galloway there.
100%.

That's not surprising at all. You oftentimes seem pretty pro murder by the use of suicide attack.

Government getting you down? Solaris will support your suicide cause! **** EM!

 

[CptStern]

alright that's enough raziaar, read the thread, he's not calling for the assasination of anyone

 

[Raziaar]

I woke up on the wrong side of the bed. I apologize.

 

[Solaris]

Of course you do.
Maybe some other lunatic will also agree with him and decide, because, it is "morally justifiable", actually do it. Maybe also in the process he not only take out Blair but a couple of dozen innocent bystanders, including half your family.

Would you still “totally agree with him”?

How does that at all invalidate my argument? No-one, neither me nor Mr.Galloway is supporting the killing of innocent bystanders. Infact the posed question was:

[FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]Mr Galloway was asked whether the assassination of Mr Blair by a suicide bomber would be justified, if there were no other casualties.[/FONT]

The concept that you can completely change what I'm supporting into something different and use the consequences of that to counter what I'm saying is preposterous.

that he's a shamelss self promoter

He's not at all.

To everyone:
You can't call him an attention seeker or whatever for this, it was an interview and he was asked, and thus answered a question. He didn't organise a press conference to announce it.

 

[Raziaar]

Do you REALLY think what Blair has done is justifiable of being murdered, Solaris? He hasn't rounded up thousands of his own people or anything and personally ordered their executions.