Games blamed for murders....again

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http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=4843

"the Beltway Sniper, John Allen Muhammad, trained using Bungie's FPS title Halo - despite the fact that Muhammad was a US Army veteran with an expert qualification in rifle use."

I know this is old (first time ive heard about the halo thing) but that is the most funniset thing i've heard a lawyer say!

Pretty handy for these guys to find a game that resembles in some way the things they've done (or planned in the latest GTA claim).

I get sick of these things, yeah GTA is a pretty groosim game and i've played it. I'd never do anything like that in real life you'd have to be a nutter to do something like that.

At leaset this lawyer hasn't won a case against a game company / publisher yet :D

edit: damn typos
 
Yombi said:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=4843

"the Beltway Sniper, John Allen Muhammad, trained using Bungie's FPS title Halo - despite the fact that Muhammad was a US Army veteran with an expert qualification in rifle use."

I know this is old (first time ive heard about the halo thing) but that is the most funniset thing i've heard a lawyer saw!

Pretty handy for these guys to find a game that resembles in some way the things they've done (or planned in the latest GTA claim).

I get sick of these things, yeah GTA is a pretty groosim game and i've played it. I'd never do anything like that in real life you'd have to be a nutter to do something like that.

At leaset this lawyer hasn't won a case against a game company / publisher yet :D
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Man, these men were capture 7 miles from my house (Myersville, MD)! We were in a lockdown in school until they were captured.
 
Did he think he was shooting the flood?

How can a lawyer make such a wild claim and get it to trial... man I loathe lawyers.
 
Vigilante said:
Man, these men were capture 7 miles from my house (Myersville, MD)! We were in a lockdown in school until they were captured.
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DUDE! wher do u live?! I love in Bethesda MD, where do u live?
 
I was just thinking about this last night. I remember seeing on the news when this first happened that the guy learned his "skills" from playing violent video games. It was the most retarded thing I ever heard! So playing football games must make me a better football player?
 
Haha, wow.

"Your honor, despite his expert marksman qualifications, we must put that aside and look at the facts, now, be reasonable, he obviously used HALO, yes HALO, the first person SHOOTER by Bungi to practice killing all those people."
 
nw909 said:
Haha, wow.

"Your honor, despite his expert marksman qualifications, we must put that aside and look at the facts, now, be reasonable, he obviously used HALO, yes HALO, the first person SHOOTER by Bungi to practice killing all those people."
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lol yeah, thats what my sis was saying.

[begin sarcasim]
I know, the XBOX controller and mouse are just so relistic tho!
[end sarcasim]

Just trying to play the 'evil game card' to get the media and public pissed off I supose, atleast for once the media didn't take it this time.
 
prepare for a planned massacre
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Because in GTA you go into a school and massacer people, there's obviously lots of training there!

Grand Theft Auto was one of Kerns' "favourite games,"
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One of mine too, its a very good game, andddddd...

he believes the boy used the title to prepare for the planned massacre
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He belives a lot of crap. If the boy had said this it would be different.

The technique of killing civilians and then first-responders
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This is actualy bad technique as it will get you caught sooner. Not killing innocents and driving away from the poilce is better. This guy dont know jack.

accuse GTA titles of being "killing simulators actually used by gangs."
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Thats a bit of an extereme view! Once again this is one of sir. turdy pants stupid assumpations.

has yet to actually win a case against a videogame publisher - and no credible scientific link has been made between violent videogames and real-life acts of violence.
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Thank - you.

Conclusion- This fag is trying to join two unrelated things together with what little he had. Games - violence. Theres a gap in the middle, that gap being people acutaly put the two together when they do commit acts of violence.
Idiot.
 
What does GTA teach us about killing that we don't already know?
 
Yombi said:
"the Beltway Sniper, John Allen Muhammad, trained using Bungie's FPS title Halo - despite the fact that Muhammad was a US Army veteran with an expert qualification in rifle use."
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Well you should all be happy he did'nt train useing counter strike...

HE COULD OF DESTROYED THE WORLD!!!!111

Hows it possable to "train" with a game? Take golf, you go play a golf sim on your xbox, does that mean your going to be very good at real golf? >_>"
 
nw909 said:
Haha, wow.

"Your honor, despite his expert marksman qualifications, we must put that aside and look at the facts, now, be reasonable, he obviously used HALO, yes HALO, the first person SHOOTER by Bungi to practice killing all those people."
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Yeh lots of use in the real world, killing aliens In his mind everyone is an alien. Theyre all aliens! They talk to me.. at night.. theyre always there. I can feel them, they help me... They helped me kill her, they where the ones who did it. It was them.. the aliiiiiennnssss.

[end of recording]
1985, Washington Insane Asylum
 
accuse GTA titles of being "killing simulators actually used by gangs."
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LOL! Yes, because killing a person in real life is exactly the same as pushing a button on your controller in a buggy ass game with auto-aim. If this idiot will use that as backup for his case he needs to sue the makers of Burnout because people that cause accidents clearly use that as a simulation.
 
No Limit said:
LOL! Yes, because killing a person in real life is exactly the same as pushing a button on your controller in a buggy ass game with auto-aim. If this idiot will use that as backup for his case he needs to sue the makers of Burnout because people that cause accidents clearly use that as a simulation.
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If he had not called GTA a simulator, and said something like "It excites the mind of the person playing it" or some random thing like that (cant put it in to words) he could probably get it. If anyone is getting what im trying to say lol.

I've seen afew people get a little scarey while playing afew games, like they were in the game. But they were kinda nutty.
 
So we've established that to kill someone you need a weapon like in GTA! Wow this lawyer has this in the bag :rolleyes:

This probably all started because of the 9/11 attack when they claimed the terrorist's used and only used Microsoft's very own Flight Simulator - Designed from the ground up to simulate ****ing flying an aeroplane. Man these people are so dumb, how the hell do they pass Law School??!
 
How is holding a game controller similar at all to holding a real gun and firing it. You can't practice "shooting" by playing videogames. :rolleyes:

Videogames are meant to be fun, whether they are childish or gruesomely violent; and they don't cause murders.
 
Those games are the spawn of Sol!

Just last week I was in GAME, and I swear the games were getting ready to pounce. It was only when I took one off the shelf, and opened up its insides that they stopped in their tracks.
 
LOL yeah that Xbox controller really trains the real life aim..that controller feels just like a rifle! Its amazing!
 
*cough* http://conwebwatch.***********/outthere/otthompson.html *cough* :O

EDIT: Bah link doesn't work....


An Exhibition of Conservative Paranoia

Exhibit 8: Is This Guy Nuts?

By Terry Krepel

"Is This Woman Nuts?" read the headline on the Aug. 27 NewsMax story. In it, Attorney General Janet Reno was accused of suffering from "Parkinson's dementia," causing her to, among other things, try to play "When The Saints Go Marching In" on a Caribbean steel drum in her office and playing with a pitchfork.

Disturbing? Not when you consider the writer of the article, Jack Thompson.

Thompson is a Miami lawyer whose greatest claim to fame is leading the crusade that eventually got rapper Luther Campbell convicted of obscenity for his 2 Live Crew album "As Nasty As They Wanna Be." His all-consuming obsession, however, is Janet Reno.

Why? The journal Reason provides the short answer:

Back in 1988 Thompson was the GOP challenger to Reno for the district attorney's job in Dade County. Thompson's unique campaign message was that Reno was unfit for the job because, as a closeted lesbian with a drinking problem, she was great candidate for blackmail by the criminal element. Jack never explained why this remained a threat even after he exposed her "secret." Reno cruised at the polls.

The group Rock Out Censorship reports that at a public debate during this campaign, Thompson presented Reno with a form demanding she fill it out. It read: "I, Janet Reno, am a 1) Homosexual; 2) Bisexual; 3) Heterosexual." Reno was expected to check an appropriate answer. The form went on to say, "If you don't respond by such a date, then you will be deemed to have checked one of the first two boxes." The group also notes that a Miami DJ obtained a restraining order against Thompson due to harassment.

Over the years, according to Reason, Thompson has traded on his brush with Reno by claiming that blackmail explains her every move. In Dade County, blackmail was behind her handling of child molestation cases. As a member of the Clinton cabinet, blackmail explained Reno's decisions, especially her refusal to appoint an independent counsel to probe campaign finance, Thompson charged.

Thompson's allegations surfaced again in August through the mouth of Ohio congressman James Traficant, as reported in NewsMax. Missing from the story, though, is any reference to the allegations originating with Thompson.

Blackmail also comes to mind when reading Thompson's writings for NewsMax, where he became its "Man in Miami" during the Elian Gonzalez saga. In addition to truckloads of Reno-bashing, he spent a lot of time trashing Kendall Coffey, a lawyer for Elian's Miami relatives, calling him in one open letter (noted previously in ConWebWatch) unfit for the job not only because of past ties to Reno, but because of a little incident involving a stripper.

As Thompson tells it: "You are the man who had to resign as U.S. Attorney because you allegedly bit an exotic dancer, drawing blood, in a notorious striptease establishment called the Lipstik Lounge. It was alleged that in a panic you had a relative sprint back to the Lipstik Lounge and buy the receipt for the champagne you bought for yourself and 'Tiffany' to conceal your presence there. So I will grant you that you do bring to the present case an understanding of the various ways to hide evidence."

Then, speaking as "a lawyer familiar with the ethical mandates of our mutual profession," Thompson demands to meet with the relatives, or else: "I am scheduled to appear today on a national television program to discuss all of the above. Therefore, I would suggest you arrange my meeting with them so that your withholding crucial information from them not be continuing at the time of the broadcast."

Blackmail, apparently, is one of the "ethical mandates" of the legal profession in the world of Jack Thompson.

Not surprisingly, Thompson is a regular at Free Republic, the conservative chat site. He doesn't always get along with them, though; he once started a thread that was, in effect, a veiled threat to sue anyone who insulted him under the cloak of anonymity.

So, what the heck was Thompson talking about in his Aug. 27 NewsMax article? Knowing that Thompson and NewsMax could not be counted on to provide the proper context, a little research of less-biased news sources was necessary. It turns out that Reno was taking reporters on a tour of her offices, which she and her staff are moving out of so the area can be renovated. The steel drums were a souvenir, and the pitchfork was a gag gift from staff members.

Meanwhile, Thompson scowls: "This would be funny if it weren't for the fact that this is the chief law enforcement officer in the United States."

To make his hatchet job on Reno complete, Thompson says (with no evidence to back it up; no reason at this point to take his word for it) that Reno is taking "the mind-altering drug" Sinemet to control her Parkinson's-related tremors. "This drug is known to induce paranoia, hallucinations, depression and a generally unstable mental status," Thompson tells us.

Uh, Jack? You sure you're not talking about yourself here?

My diagnosis: An inspection of Jack Thompson's medicine cabinet.
 
First jackass got taken away from me, games shall not!
 
Kangy links stupid people with cancer.

"HE POINTED THE FINGER AT A MISUNDERSTOOD POPULAR FORM OF ENTERTAINMENT. HE MUST BE RIGHT!" - a panicked mother of 3.
 
now i'm not sure if this is true or not.. i read it in a book on the subject (but who knows right?). but apparently, in soviet russia, game blames you. just what i heard is all..
 
sure a idiot will hit whit a crowbar some person whit gask mask and they will blame HL2 :rolling:
 
Wow, Video games are used to train people to kill?

I bet they get a surprise when they get shot and can't find a health pack :cool:
 
outpost233 said:
I was just thinking about this last night. I remember seeing on the news when this first happened that the guy learned his "skills" from playing violent video games. It was the most retarded thing I ever heard! So playing football games must make me a better football player?
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LOL so true. Forget the fact that there are all kinds of factors in learn how to shoot accuratly. nevermind the fact that he was in a trunk on his belly.....I dont remember that from halo..
 
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