"Gay weddings"

:) Good stuff.

What the hell are you doing sober at 3:43 though... ? I know I'm not!
 
I'm running low on funds - tomorrow's my final fling, as they say. But bravo :cheers:
 
Meh.

I personally think it's disgusting. But whatever. Flame me.
 
Qonfused said:
Meh.

I personally think it's disgusting. But whatever. Flame me.

Doesn't matter if you think it's disgusting.

What matters is that two consenting adults should have the right to do such a thing.
 
wrong.

i'm with qonfused, it's disgusting and should not be allowed. oh well, their life they're wasting, good luck to them.
 
Absinthe said:
Doesn't matter if you think it's disgusting.

What matters is that two consenting adults should have the right to do such a thing.

Thank you.
 
destrukt said:
wrong.

i'm with qonfused, it's disgusting.

Dude, no one's making you watch it. I think war is repulsive but it's not stopping it is it?
 
it's called an opinion, deal with it. i never said i was going to watch it or have anything to do with it, this thread is here so many people can say what thet think about it, like i did.
 
destrukt said:
wrong.

i'm with qonfused, it's disgusting and should not be allowed. oh well, their life they're wasting, good luck to them.
I'm confused: how are they wasting their lives?
 
"I may not like what you do, but ill defend your right to do it." I think that this holds true with gay couples. Although I find the act of homosexuality repulsive and unnatural, I can't say that those people should be hindered from doing what they want to do. Do unto others as you would want to have done onto you. You don't hinder my rights and I won't hinder yours.
 
by being gay.

i'm not going to get into an argument or bother to say why i am against homosexuals, just read my post(s) than move on.

edit: i'm kind of with last one in, i think it's completely wrong but i'm not going to go out and bash them and try and stop it. like i said, their life.
 
I'd marry a guy. If he had the beautiful face of an attractive woman, with a charming, sexy smile. The curves and shapely toned physique of a woman. And the soft, lilting seductive voice of a woman. Not to mention the beautiful silky hair of a woman, and lets not forget that feminine personality.

That'd be one hell of a man. And no... transgender DONT make the cut.
 
Mr-Fusion said:
Ok i'll set you up with Michael Jackson

I'm sorry... but he lacks in ALL of those qualities. The qualities I love. Hell, all guys lack in all departments for the most part. Guess i'm gonna have to stick with women.
 
destrukt said:
by being gay.

i'm not going to get into an argument or bother to say why i am against homosexuals, just read my post(s) than move on.

edit: i'm kind of with last one in, i think it's completely wrong but i'm not going to go out and bash them and try and stop it. like i said, their life.

No, they'd be wasting their lives if they couldn't marry the love of their life yet beleived in marriage, whether that person is of their sex or not has nothing to do with "wasting" life.
 
if you ask me, being gay is a waste.

:)

good luck Raziaar on finding someone like that :x
 
Absinthe said:
Doesn't matter if you think it's disgusting.

What matters is that two consenting adults should have the right to do such a thing.

destrukt said:

And what, pray tell, led you to this inane conclusion.

And for the record, you can't say homosexual couples shouldn't be allowed to do this and then claim that you respect their rights. That's what we call a contradiction.
 
They should not be allowed to marry. That is like saying that everyone must believe god is bisexual to represent more people and make it fair. Too friggin bad it's their belief you can't change anyone beliefs. Not to mention the whole issue of church and state.

Homosexuals deserve civil unions...leave it at that.
 
destrukt said:
if you ask me, being gay is a waste.

:)

good luck Raziaar on finding someone like that :x

LOL. The point is... GUYS ARENT FOR ME. I loooooooove women. Only creature on this earth I will be able to share my most intimate secrets with, my love, my affection(in a non family way). Respect to the gay guys... but I don't like anything about the male appearance. hehe.
 
Glirk Dient said:
They should not be allowed to marry. That is like saying that everyone must believe god is bisexual to represent more people and make it fair. Too friggin bad it's their belief you can't change anyone beliefs. Not to mention the whole issue of church and state.

Homosexuals deserve civil unions...leave it at that.

This is meaningless since there are hundreds if not thousands of varying beliefs of who god is.

I don't recall premarital sex ever halting a couple from being married.
 
Absinthe said:
This is meaningless since there are hundreds if not thousands of varying beliefs of who god is.

I don't recall premarital sex ever halting a couple from being married.

What I am getting at is the government shouldn't be changing peoples religions. A wedding is a religious ordeal, hence it being done in a church. Seperation of church and state prevents the government from changing peoples religion. The example I gave with god was only an example to prove a point.

A civil union would give homosexuals every right that married couples get. I don't see why people want the government to abolish seperation of church and state and force people to change the way their religion works.
 
The government is not forcing people to change their religion. Nothing is stopping a person from thinking a homosexual couple is sinful.

We don't stop people who've had premarital sex from being married.
We don't stop atheists from getting married.
We don't stop people who've engaged in infidelity from getting married.

So why do we exclude homosexuals? The ability for them to get married doesn't encroach on your belief that it's wrong. Your argument that it's altering religion is pretty fallacious, as there are plenty of religious people that take no issue with homosexual marriage. Christians do not go by one single absolute criteria, and it's therefore pointless to argue that marriage should be handled in one way.

If you don't like homosexual marriage, then don't get into one. Simple as that. You can still continue to practice your beliefs as you wish.
 
destrukt said:
if you ask me, being gay is a waste.

Obviously gay people don't think like you, so why not get out of their business and give them the rights we take for granted?
 
The only thing that makes gays disgusting in most peoples minds is upbringing. Nothing more. Once you realize that along with the fact that being unnatural is in reality one of the most defining traits of the human race you begin to feel less hostile towards gays.

I used to be quite against the idea of gays a few years ago but now that is completely changed. No it wasn't gay pride parades that changed my mind. No it wasn't friends, or family. Nor was it meeting openly gay people. It was simply me thinking about it logically and realizing that it is really very harmless. I mean what is the point in causing other people suffering for something that they can neither help nor will really have any negative effects on me.
 
thesomeone, refer to my post about opinions.

lol raziaar, i know what you were getting at :p

absinthe, i think it's wrong, disgusting, an abonimation and many other words, but like i said, i'm not going to go out on some useless paradae against homosexual's, i'll leave them be. so, you could say there is a contradiction but read the previous sentence a few times and you will understand what i'm saying.

the mullinator, yup, it's fairly harmless, gays haven't annoyed/ruined or done anything bad for me, i just simply think it's wrong.

[this isn't towards you mulli] i also happen to think stealing a car, killing people and many other things are wrong.
 
Okay whatever. True love is true love, no one has the right to interfere in it.
 
Article 16.
(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.

(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.

http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

It is a basic human right to marry and is extended to all regardless of race, religion or nationality. How on earth anybody can argue this right should not be extended to gays is unbelievable.
You wouldn't argue against mixed marriages, between different races, cultures or religions so how on earth can anybody argue same sex marriages are wrong?
Each to their own I say.
 
Gays are fine, yet I find the fact of two men or two women gross. Sure, get married, love eachother, adopt children... er, a little less emphasis on the latter option but it's still a little strange to me.

Overly gay people creep me out. For example, there's a gay that works at Subway (which can spawn hundreds of jokes: "lol, he touches your meat!1") and once you walk in you hear him shout across the restaurant in a GAY voice. Look, we can tell you're gay -- and if we can't why do you want us to know? Then, you're just more vulnerable to ridicule.

A little note to the mods, however: close this thread before it gets out of hand.
 
I too feel uncomfortable around gays, growing up i was never surrounded by people of that orientation, so I'm uncomfortable. But, that's out of my own insecutity and inexperience, I still except them as human beings, who should have the same rights as i do. It's just something i have to get over.

Qonfused thats like seeing a def person on the bus using sign language...Look we, can tell you're def... and if we can't tell then why would you want us to know? then, you're just opening ur self up to ridicule
 
Haha, this is classic.

Qonfused, you hate gay people because being near them makes you feel insecure in your sexuality.

"What if the guy at the restaurant make me a sandwich and then the sandwich is tasty and then we fall in love and kiss??? My friends would make fun of me and I would just die!"

Like that's a likely scenario.
If you're straight, and you like being straight, why are you afraid of gays?

The real problem here is that your friends are stupid and you're easily swayed by peer pressure, making you stupid too.

Suck it up, find a girlfriend and tell your friends to stop thinking about penises all the time. Unless they're into that sort of thing.
But blaming your weakness and embarassment on the guy who works at the sandwich store is probably the most immature thing I have heard all day.
Grow a pair and stand up for yourself.

Scapegoating onto a minority is not 'standing up for yourself'.
 
Yes becuase it's somebody elses fault you feel embarrased. Jeez get over it.

Intended towards those who are insecure around gay people. Look not all gays are sex crazed maniacs, just like not all straight people are sex crazed maniacs.
 
destrukt said:
it's called an opinion, deal with it. i never said i was going to watch it or have anything to do with it, this thread is here so many people can say what thet think about it, like i did.

whats the point of having a thread discussion if you're going to stand there (metaphorically), with your hands over your ears, screaming out what you think, not accepting or discussing with others, not trading points, not trying to make any kind of logical argument etc?

Theres no difference between that and spam.
 
bliink said:
whats the point of having a thread discussion if you're going to stand there (metaphorically), with your hands over your ears, screaming out what you think, not accepting or discussing with others, not trading points, not trying to make any kind of logical argument etc?
but, i am accepting or discussing (hence why i did continue on from 1 post), i spoke about points from other people (mullinator, qonfused) and my logical argument is what i said a few times, i don't like gays and thing it's wrong but accept the law/them/..
 
destrukt said:
but, i am accepting or discussing (hence why i did continue on from 1 post), i spoke about points from other people (mullinator, qonfused) and my logical argument is what i said a few times, i don't like gays and thing it's wrong but accept the law/them/..

Ok lets put this into perspective you don't like "them" because what?
Homosexuals have a different view of life to you?, they don't feel the same way you do about the opposite sex?, and they have a different set of moral codes and standards to yourself?.
Your views actually border on discrimination. They appear to be based on no rational thought process at all, other than homosexuals are some how different to yourself.
You homophobic fears and views are truly misguided and hopefully, though vocal are in a minority.
It is ok to call “them" homosexuals and actually see "them" as real people with real feelings , rather than trying desperately to place homosexuals in the subhuman category that most bigots try so desperately to do.
 
there is a difference between not liking something, and having a phobia of it.

i feel the same way about murderes, people who do drugs and so on, sure, being a homosexual and some of things i listed could be considered to be on a different level but it is simply a dislike of something, something i could explain more but i feel you would not understand so i stick these the short sentences and vague responses i've been using so far.

get over the 'them' thing, i could have said homosexuals, homos, gays, fags, people who like people of the same sex but them is shorter and can be used instead, just like with anything else you could be talking about.

how you can label my views and non-existant fear as misguided, without even knowing them, is beyond me.

Homosexuals have a different view of life to you?, they don't feel the same way you do about the opposite sex?, and they have a different set of moral codes and standards to yourself?.
and sure, they could have all of the above, but i'm sure terrorists and other 'groups' of people have quite different views on life than me.

so, i don't like them on a personal, religous and social level, but so do others, neat-o. actually, it's more of 'not caring' than disliking them.
 
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