Gitmo = Hooters?

i like the mensriral blood, but i think attaching electrodes to their balls would work faster, as they would lose them and not have them relieved

really, we should only be using pain on these people. along with pig fat and dogs, hungry, wild dogs
 
Hey that's awesome!

Next time we catch a murder suspect who's a Christian, let's all pee on the crucifix in front of him and analy rape him with a communion wafer to get him to confess. What a riot!
 
im serious. i dont give a damn what religion u are, mess with america, and ur screwed. in a bad way
 
im serious. i dont give a damn what religion u are, mess with america, and ur screwed. in a bad way
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they might not have "messed" with america:

many held more than three years without charge or access to lawyers
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For a devout muslim, that's the equivalent of having a man rub his dick all over you. I bet you'd love that in traffic court, eh 'Eg.'?

But I'm being totally serious here. It's shocking to me just how many americans just on these forums advocate the torture of any people, let alone those who aren't even officially guilty of anything.

Apparently September 11th is useful tool for some people, because now you can support all manner of reprehensible things so long as you're not as bad as a terrorist.
I'm sure the victims would be glad a random man was sexually assaulted in their name.

It's like some perverse limbo, with "how low can you go" becoming the personal motto of tens of thousands of people.
Grow up, 'Eg.' Your shamelessness is a smear on the concept of freedom.
 
Well hot damn!

I wanna get arrested and shipped to gitmo! :D

Might need to bring some money tho for the lap dances...
 
god some of you are beyond reproach ..you are no better than the people who celebrated when american airplanes fell out of the sky

seinfeldrules, you are the worst of them all ..it'll be a good day when you are finally banned for making one too many flame-bait threads

as a human being you have very few redeeming qualities
 
CptStern said:
god some of you are beyond reproach ..you are no better than the people who celebrated when american airplanes fell out of the sky

seinfeldrules, you are the worst of them all ..it'll be a good day when you are finally banned for making one too many flame-bait threads

as a human being you have very few redeeming qualities
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Aren't you doing the same by telling them "they are no better than the people who celebrated when american planes fell out of the sky"?

So you're starting a flame war just by saying that....in turn you're being just as bad as seinfeldrules.
 
Tr0n said:
Aren't you doing the same by telling them "they are no better than the people who celebrated when american planes fell out of the sky"?
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how? I dont see your point

Tr0n said:
So you're starting a flame war just by saying that....in turn you're being just as bad as seinfeldrules.
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no not really because I dont plan to participate ..I've said what I felt and I'll leave it at that ...sometimes, Tron, we have to say/do what is right, even if it means other people will be angry ..do you think I am as vocal as I am on the iraq war out of popularity? Everyone here should be outraged by his statements. it's based on the color of the person's skin (american civilians/soldiers are sacred yet who cares if a bunch of unwashed heathens are tortured and humiliated)
 
CptStern said:
how? I dont see your point



no not really because I dont plan to participate ..I've said what I felt and I'll leave it at that ...sometimes, Tron, we have to say/do what is right, even if it means other people will be angry ..do you think I am as vocal as I am on the iraq war out of popularity? Everyone here should be outraged by his statements. it's based on the color of the person's skin (american civilians/soldiers are sacred yet who cares if a bunch of unwashed heathens are tortured and humiliated)
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Well you just answered your first statement with the 2nd....it's gonna make them angry and then they're gonna go crazy.Since they probally hold some grudge against you...they're are gonna pull out all guns and a flame war is gonna start.I do agree with you on the outrage thing...it makes me sad, but at the same time makes me laugh to see a bunch of kids being so hypocritical.I find the politics forum very amusing cause you get to see a bunch of kids/adults whine and bitch about things.

So anyways lets sum it up....Shits probally gonna hit the fan.
 
I had a chuckle or two but its not right. Especially when they're screwing around with someone's religious beliefs. All these detainees are still subject to the same rights as you and I. They're still innocent until proven guilty. I find it amazing that they haven't been given access to a lawyer or anything. Those are rights that should be given to everyone no matter the offense. Granted that some of those in Gitmo are true terrorists but they still have the right to due process. Not following those rules and guidelines is ignoring our own Constitution and those ignoring it are military personnel, the defenders of our Constitution and freedom.

Geez, if you wanted to outrage the Islamic community even more, this is the way. Not a very smart thing to do. Many people of the Islamic faith believe that this is a war on their religion. Even though it may not be, it sure isn't helping our cause. This entire operation has ignorance written all over it.
 
Tr0n said:
Well you just answered your first statement with the 2nd....it's gonna make them angry and then they're gonna go crazy.Since they probally hold some grudge against you...they're are gonna pull out all guns and a flame war is gonna start.
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yes but I'm not responsible for how other people conduct themselves ..if they were people of integrity, if they were people who had respect for human life they wouldnt have said what they did ..not my responsibility

Tr0n said:
I do agree with you on the outrage thing...it makes me sad, but at the same time makes me laugh to see a bunch of kids being so hypocritical.I find the politics forum very amusing cause you get to see a bunch of kids/adults whine and bitch about things.
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and that's why I've answered your questions because you seem to be able to see past your flag
 
Hey that's awesome!

Next time we catch a murder suspect who's a Christian, let's all pee on the crucifix in front of him and analy rape him with a communion wafer to get him to confess. What a riot!
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL! Serious! No, really! I was laughing at this for awhile -- its good material. Even I ... found the interrogations pathetic.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/dragan_w/euro_vs_america.jpg
^Good stuff
 
seinfeldrules, you are the worst of them all ..it'll be a good day when you are finally banned for making one too many flame-bait threads

as a human being you have very few redeeming qualities
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If a Liberal had posted this, you wouldnt have complained. It is a valid thread for discussion. Get off my case, and start discussing the topic at hand. No need for the insults either.
 
screw them, i want my country to be safe, and if some people need to have a hellish life for a year or two, have at em'.
 
This kind of behaviour disgusts me. This behaviour makes you just as bad as the people who attacked you, fools. Don't you see that this, if they ever admitted it to their family, could lead to their complete exclusion religiously, a strong source of community? What if they're innocent? So many have been locked up in Guantanamo without actual reason, just at the wrong place at the wrong time. The hypocrisy of some of you people astounds me. Next time someone gets taken hostage and beheaded, or tortured, you'll be all up in arms, calling them ridiculous extremists or some such, and claiming this is why you went to war in the first place.

You should be fighting yourselves, you savages.
 
Kangy said:
This kind of behaviour disgusts me. This behaviour makes you just as bad as the people who attacked you, fools. Don't you see that this, if they ever admitted it, would be exactly like one of you Christians being forced to crap on the cross? The hypocracy of some of you people astounds me. Next time someone gets taken hostage and beheaded, or tortured, you'll be all up in arms, calling them ridiculous extremists or some such, and claiming this is why you went to war in the first place.

You should be fighting yourselves, you savages.
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Pwned.
 
th longer it takes to get info out of them, the more of a danger they are. the timelyer the better.

and its not like these people didnt do anything to get in there anyway.
 
No, really Eg., many have gone to that hellhole without actually being charged... or tortured for anything specific. They were just there at the wrong time. Several of the Brits released recently came under this. Wonderful.

Don't you get it? You're actually reversing the social progress of the last 100 years! It's like we reached a point and then we suddenly just started going backwards!
 
several canadians too ..they talked about being tortured, no trial and ultimately released with no charges
 
well lets see.

even though he was in the mafia, Al capon was charged and jailed for tax fraud not murder or any other of his activities. the patriot act just makes it easier on the cops

the british, along with other nations, were complaining about their citizens that were in gitmo. to calm things down, we released a few. tat was just to stop the media picking on a story in europe. we did the same with some saudi citizens, but i dont agree with that

reversing the last 100 years of progress? that would entail civil rights for women and american minorities. these are non-american criminals that want us dead and have worked towards that goal. if they want us dead, then away with geneova
 
Eg., that is correct. Those citizens were ours, being held illegally by the US, without any charges or reason given to them. What's the point of torturing them, if the subject doesn't even know why?

Again, this is disgusting. This kind of behaviour really does arch back to some of the horrors commited early on in the 20th century. I meant the social progress in Western Civilization, like adhering to worldwide laws and standards and maybe starting to accept other people have different beliefs to us.

Do you not see anything wrong with having no stated reason to torture someone, yet make their religion worthless to them?
 
I see this as a viable method of interrogation. Absolutely no physical harm is inflicted, and in reality no religious code was broken (in the fake blood scenario). I say play upon their mental 'weakness'* in order to extract as much information as possible.

*I can explain my meaning of this if anyone desires or is offended.
 
They don't know it's fake blood. They think they've let down their families, their moral code. You and I might know it's fake, but it is still awfully wrong.
 
Kangy said:
Eg., that is correct. Those citizens were ours, being held illegally by the US, without any charges or reason given to them. What's the point of torturing them, if the subject doesn't even know why?

Again, this is disgusting. This kind of behaviour really does arch back to some of the horrors commited early on in the 20th century. I meant the social progress in Western Civilization, like adhering to worldwide laws and standards and maybe starting to accept other people have different beliefs to us.

Do you not see anything wrong with having no stated reason to torture someone, yet make their religion worthless to them?
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no. im going to belive that those being tortured are the ones that are the ones wanting us dead. im inculding u in "us" because u are a westerner. it is a war. they hate westerners and in general, anyone who is not a muslim.

those that were arrested wrongfully have already been released. innocent people tend to break pretty easily so sorting them out has already happened.

now, most of theses guys think that the west is evil and must a;be destroyed or b; converted. i dont see why we would have to respect their religion in any form. i see it as a means of getting them to talk quicker. pigs blood/fat makes things easeir, at least their not getting beaten and shocked. that comes next week

nothing is wrong when it comes to war, this is just an action of war. grow up
 
meh, thats far more humane and moral than the kind of things they could be doing to extract information.
 
I hope you realise you sound like a complete savage here. You say you're fighting for freedom and integrity, yet, these people can arrested, given no rights and somehow, your view is that freedom and everyone under these horrible despots needs to be converted to the Western Society way? You're just as bad as them.

The line between the terrorist and the supporter/purpotrator of these atrocities is sickeningly thin. Society, thanks to this war is fast heading down the drain.

Until you get some respect for people who haven't even been found guilty anything, I think you're the one who needs to grow up.
 
ok i am savage, but at least im a living savage and not a bombed out humanitarian. im not saying that in a bad way,humanitarians are good people, it just in todays world they seem to get kiddnapped and killed more otfen than others.

i never said i would like the USA to fight for freedom. i would like it to fight for our lives and defense. the purpose of the government is to protect its citizens, not for the liberty and freedoms of those that want it dead. as far as i am concerned, anyone that is a threat to america has a price tag of 38cents, the cost of a bullet.

i am more than happy to buy oil from a saddam iraq or an islamic Iran as long as they keep their terrorists to themselves. the minute they become a threat, goodbye terhan and the mullahs. no occupation, no rebuilding.

this post does not reflect the opinions of the republican party or those associated with it. sry sienfield and all the other conservatives on this forum
 
Until you get some respect for people who haven't even been found guilty anything, I think you're the one who needs to grow up.
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We are wiping ink on prisoner's faces. They are chopping off heads...
 
CptStern said:
same thing
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Not even close. You know that. Besides, even if it were in Iraq, I wouldnt care. An interrogator cant just sit a prisoner down and ask "Please tell me the information I need to know. Come on, I said Pleeeaasseeeee".
 
And? How does that make it "right."

No offense to any Americans but I feel I need to make this point.

When 9/11 came it really made America scared. You had spent ages thinking no one will attack us! We're America, we have technology and are cool! Suddenly one terrorist attack later your acting all hurt and suddenly doing this type of thing and justifying on "national security" Terrorists are smart, take it from a country thats been dealing with it for a lot lot longer than you have. Terrorists are clever they'll find a way eventully.

Suddenly a quote from the IRA comes to mind.

"You have to be lucky every time. We only have to be lucky once."
 
Suddenly one terrorist attack later
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Was it really one? I can think of more than that off the top of my head. We were attacked, we are fighting back. This is Pearl Harbor II.
 
seinfeldrules said:
Not even close. You know that. Besides, even if it were in Iraq, I wouldnt care. An interrogator cant just sit a prisoner down and ask "Please tell me the information I need to know. Come on, I said Pleeeaasseeeee".
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where exactly are these prisoners coming from?
 
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