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Sure this has been brought up, but I couldnt find anything in the search function.

When you are driving along the coast, there is alittle house where the combine are stationed in. It has one of those ground shaker things out front. The combine is looking through a set of electronic binocular things. If you look in them, you see the GMan talking to a resistance member on the second floor of one of the buildings.

what are some theories or facts about why he was there? I'm sure it has been discussed to death and back.

Thanks for any links or info!
 
All I know is that the person the G-Man was talking to was Odessa Cubbage. Sorry.
 
He's talking to Cubbage, there's countless theories which I've repressed as horrible memories in the past, but the biggest thing you can take from it, is the fact that other people can see/talk to Gman - not just Gordon.
 
Ah, thanks for that. Interesting, playing through HL2 again for the hell of it, Watched Children of Men and it made me want to go through HL2 lol.

Interesting how many small things like this I either didnt see or didnt care to take note of the first times playing through.

Edit: Just makes me wonder, it seems no one else takes him as a threat... or maybe they just dont know him the same way Gordon does...
 
Can we noclip over there and see who is speaking to the G-man, or is there a loading point inbetween the two places?
 
You can noclip over there, many people have done so, it's Gman & Cubbage talking for sure.
 
The G-Man can make himself visible to others if he wants, apparently. I just hope that statement isn't redundant.
 
And he apparently still has some sort of teleportation / invisibility tech. He walks away there and just disappears. Same holds true for two Water Hazard sightings - you get to where the G-Man was shortly after seeing him, but he's nowhere to be found, and there's nowhere to go really.
 
If you watch him with noclip, I think he *does* dissappear.

But that's probably a 'scene' rather than any special abilities on his part.
 
One plausable theory is that Gman gave Cubbage the rocket launcher, as a means to help you.
 
Yeah, I also believe that Cubbage died in ep1, cause somebody stated 'you're gordon Freeman, right? MAn, it's good to know somebody who *knew* cubbage (<notice the past tense, as if he was remarking about a dead person?.0!), where you there when he took down the first gunship?'
It would make sense as the gman is a matter of secrecy, and maybe he initialized Odessa's neutralization, just for safety ;)
 
I reckon the whole BM incident was just training Gordon for contracts by Gman's employers who staged the whole BM incident, and the resistance are just one of the customers
 
Samon said:
I think it pretty much proves the resistance/vorts hired Gordon.
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What the hell would they have that the Gman needed? What kindof leverage could they possibly have?
 
Sex drugs and rock and roll. Honestly though, I haven't a clue, but the hints are there smacking you in the face throughout the game.
 
I don't think the resistance hired Gordon. The resistance was, anyway, before Gordon's arrival not having much success and certainly not much resources. The vorts, though, could have well hired him. Their special abilities, demonstrated particularly in the opener of Ep1, suggest that they might indeed drive a good bargain with the G-Man.
 
I must say, none of the characters, such as barney, kleiner etc seem that suprised when they see you.
Barneys first line "now about that beer i owed you," he certainly wouldnt say that if he wasnt expecting gordon.
And as for kleiner on the screen in the interrogation room at the train station, if he had just seen gordon for the first time in 20 years *i think* he be a bit more gob-smacked.

Samon's theory is quite believable, though id say it would make more sense if it were one of the science team, or as solver said, the vorts who hired him.
 
Yes, they certainly expected Gordon to be alive and show up at some point. Kleiner had the HEV, and said something like "I expected more warning" - which means that he didn't expect Gordon's arrival at that day in particular, but did expect it overall.

Given that the last time a human being saw Gordon he was just about to teleport to Xen, there has to be a good reason why Gordon wasn't just considered to have been dead for 18 years.

Given that Vorts work with the resistance, it's possible that they (Vorts) hired Gordon but didn't tell the resistance when exactly he would arrive. Perhaps the Vorts didn't even know specifically, when they hired Gordon the G-Man might have indicated he will arrive, not giving a specific time. It would be more believable for the G-Man to be quite vague, in fact.
 
They all thought he teleported to some random place and were expecting him to get a job in City 17.
 
Solver said:
Perhaps the Vorts didn't even know specifically, when they hired Gordon the G-Man might have indicated he will arrive, not giving a specific time. It would be more believable for the G-Man to be quite vague, in fact.
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Perhaps the gman only brought gordon out of stasis when it was most beneficial for the gman or perhaps the gman thought he was bringing gordon at the most effective time for the resistance, theres so many possibilites!
 
Gman: 10 BUCKS. NOW.
Vort: But I only got 15.
Gman: DEAL! Gordon will be here soon. ;D

Vortigaunts dont understand human economy.
 
jondy said:
What the hell would they have that the Gman needed? What kindof leverage could they possibly have?
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Well as samon said the resistance/vorts hired gordon,what leverage do they have? The resistance is not the only one that wants the combine down, i remember that we discussed on a third party, the third party probably HIRED GORDON but sent him to THE RESISTANCE so that they could let the "Meaningless" humans do the dirty work.
 
Piers89 said:
Perhaps the gman only brought gordon out of stasis when it was most beneficial for the gman or perhaps the gman thought he was bringing gordon at the most effective time for the resistance, theres so many possibilites!
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I'm pretty sure that everything the G-Man does is for his benefit. He seems to strike deals with others, but surely enough only when they suit him.
 
Remember also when you go into the dislodged train compartment when trying to make your way through the sewers and you see the Vort and the Resistance member watching the Gman on TV. It would seem likely that the gman is in some degree of collaboration with the resistance.
 
Deadline said:
Edit: Just makes me wonder, it seems no one else takes him as a threat... or maybe they just dont know him the same way Gordon does...
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I've been noticing people saying that the G-man is evil and he's a threat and he's working for the Combine and all sorts of crap. Just because he kidnappeds Gordon and puts him in stasis doesn't make him bad. Normally it would but the Combine infested earth is not a normal situation. It might be for Gordon's own good.
 
mortey said:
Remember also when you go into the dislodged train compartment when trying to make your way through the sewers and you see the Vort and the Resistance member watching the Gman on TV. It would seem likely that the gman is in some degree of collaboration with the resistance.
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Exactly, I'm assuming it's the vorts, especially in light of the Ep. 1 intro. (spoilers)

Think about it this way:

Half-life 1:
-The G-man was examining the fighting skills of those in the Black Mesa incident.
-In the end, Freeman gets hired by G-man's company because of his impressive abilities.

Half-life 2:
-Freeman gets rented out by the G-man to a group who wants the citadel destroyed. G-man stays in close contact with the vorts and the resistance. (He is always hanging around near resistance bases in his appearances.)
-In the end, G-man announces that Gordon has completed his job and will be rented out to some other group now.

Episode 1:
-The Vorts stop Gordon from leaving.
-Gman gets pissed off.


Now, if you put all those together, I think the story starts to fall into place:

-G-man is part of an alien company that collects and rents out mercenary slaves.

-He visited Black Mesa to test and collect data on the strongest soldiers that the US had to offer, but Gordon emerged as the best by killing the Nihilanth all on his own.

-The vorts are saved from slavery by Gordon. He becomes a legend or even a god to them.

-G-man reports this to his employers, and they decide to "hire" Gordon and put him in storage.

-As his first job, the company rents Gordon out to the vorts, because the vorts say they want to help their resistance friends destroy Nova Prospekt and the Citadel.

-After Gordon succeeds so well at those things, new clients ask to rent Gordon. G-man puts Gordon back in storage.

-The vorts' deal, however, was a trick. They use the chance to steal Gordon from the G-man.

-G-man is pissed because he'll lose all those future deals unless he can get Gordon back.


Alyx plays big into this conflict in the next episode.
I'm guessing that since vorts apparently have a lot of respect for their big heroes, Alyx is as important to them as Gordon is. So, Alyx is kidnapped by the G-man and held hostage in exchange for Gordon's return.
 
Mechagodzilla said:
-G-man is part of an alien company that collects and rents out mercenary slaves.

-He visited Black Mesa to test and collect data on the strongest soldiers that the US had to offer, but Gordon emerged as the best by killing the Nihilanth all on his own.

-The vorts are saved from slavery by Gordon. He becomes a legend or even a god to them.

-G-man reports this to his employers, and they decide to "hire" Gordon and put him in storage.

-As his first job, the company rents Gordon out to the vorts, because the vorts say they want to help their resistance friends destroy Nova Prospekt and the Citadel.

-After Gordon succeeds so well at those things, new clients ask to rent Gordon. G-man puts Gordon back in storage.

-The vorts' deal, however, was a trick. They use the chance to steal Gordon from the G-man.

-G-man is pissed because he'll lose all those future deals unless he can get Gordon back.


Alyx plays big into this conflict in the next episode.
I'm guessing that since vorts apparently have a lot of respect for their big heroes, Alyx is as important to them as Gordon is. So, Alyx is kidnapped by the G-man and held hostage in exchange for Gordon's return.
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But then why should we "Forget about all of this"?
 
I think its all one big ploy so the Gman can get Alyx in the sack....or stasis chamber. Take your pick.
 
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