Gothic 3

But just for the sake of argument, I'll give the demo another go.

Never judge a game by it's demo.

As for the OTS camera, you are right that's the default view for G3, but you can also play in first person if you want. Since I seem to be of a very small group of people that actually like the game, I have to say that the OTS camera in G3 works well. I have not had any gripes with it since the game was released.

-MRG
 
If I can't judge a game by its demo then what the hell am I supposed to judge it by?
I can't just buy it hoping it's better than the demo, too much of a gamble.

Nearly all of the games that I own were bought based solely on the demo.
It's the developers faults that they release broken demos/full games and then when they patch up the full version they don't bother with the demo which is still as buggy as the released full game.
But, for the most part, the demo is the only thing we ever have to go by... or word of mouth which I always take with a grain of salt, but I usually base my demoless purchases on gameplay videos and metacritic.
 
Well, considering demos have none of the patches and doesnt have enough time to show any of the plot, stat system, etc... demos in general are not very good representations of a game. Just download it, and if you like it, buy it, if you dont, just uninstall it and forget it.


The camera works fine in this game. The combat is pretty hack and slashy, but so what? Not many games are any different. I like the game so far, especially now that I can run it with great graphics and frame rate.
 
Meh, to each his own.
Hated it, it's basically like every other RPG out there.
 
To MRG, who seems to be one of the few Gothic fans on these forums: I just received my Gothic Universe box; I'll let you know about my gaming experience with the whole series.
 
To MRG, who seems to be one of the few Gothic fans on these forums: I just received my Gothic Universe box; I'll let you know about my gaming experience with the whole series.

Yes, please do. Just remember to patch the game & to apply the memory tweak that I posted about earlier & any of the other tweaks that are out as well that interest you. I'm not the largest fan of the heavy weapons, but at higher levels, they sure do a lot more damage than one handed. The archery "class" is fun & great for long range, but up close, it's wise to have a few points into melee for when the enemies get up close & personal like.

-MRG
 
My first impressions on Gothic 3: graphics is really awesome, on the par with Oblivion. Jaw dropped one or two times. Free roaming is funny and the sense of immersion is very strong. I heard that the game had poor performance issues but I tell you that in my first 30 minutes of play the whole thing was smooth and flawless on my mid-range machine (community patch 1.6 applied). I have yet to evaluate the gameplay: combat seems like hack and slash with little brain or strategy implied, but in my opinion Oblivion wasn't too different.
 
Man, I have this really obnoxious graphical error where models (characters, props, buildings, anything really) flicker on and off. When I run into a town or city everyone and everything just disappears for a split second and reappears and then disappears and over and over. I think its a driver issue though, because I saw on the Jowood forums that the only other person who had it as well has the same video card (4850) as me. Kinda sucks, but if I lower my graphic settings it seems to reduce how much it happens, so its at least tolerable.

Combat in the game isnt very complicated... mechanic-wise. But thats not to say its really hack and slash. You need to put thought in how you attack things. For example, you cant use the strategy you use when fighting a wolf to fight a pack of wolves. You cant use the same strategy when fighting a small group of bandits as you do when fighting a shadow beast. Its still not terribly complicated, but to be honest, I like this system better than most games.
 
Another game you may (or may not) like is a game called "Two Worlds". It's another one of those RPG's that were released in a buggy state & thus put off a lot of the players that may have found it enjoyable had it been released in it's POST-patches state. Even so, I stuck with the game from the get-go & have enjoyed myself greatly while playing.

-MRG
 
Another game you may (or may not) like is a game called "Two Worlds". It's another one of those RPG's that were released in a buggy state & thus put off a lot of the players that may have found it enjoyable had it been released in it's POST-patches state. Even so, I stuck with the game from the get-go & have enjoyed myself greatly while playing.

Yes, Two Worlds and Gothic 3 seem to share the same fate as great games flawed by bugs and gameplay issues. My spare time for gaming is very limited but I can tell you that imo Gothic 3 (patched) is a very good game. I have to force myself to follow the whole series from the start, beginning with (the dated) Gothic 1.
 
My advise is to start pliyng Gothic 1 and Gothic 2 Night of the Raven and if you like them then buy Gothic 3 just to continue the story. That was what I did :D
 
My advise is to start pliyng Gothic 1 and Gothic 2 Night of the Raven and if you like them then buy Gothic 3 just to continue the story. That was what I did :D

Thanks for the advice but I just received my Gothic Universe box, so the whole series is already in my hands.
 
Another game you may (or may not) like is a game called "Two Worlds". It's another one of those RPG's that were released in a buggy state & thus put off a lot of the players that may have found it enjoyable had it been released in it's POST-patches state. Even so, I stuck with the game from the get-go & have enjoyed myself greatly while playing.

OK, I am going to give Two Worlds a try. The latest patches seem to have fixed a lot of game-breaking bugs. You see, I am in the mood for underdog games ;)

Note: this time I had to go for a retail version since Steam is having a lot of trouble with patches (see Steam and ZuxxeZ forums).
 
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