Guess which game does not have locational damage.

[Bleeder]

HALO 2! Meaning shooting a guy in the foot will kill him as fast as shooting him in the head. and before anyone flames me about it, the sniper rifle "registers" a headshot if you hit them in the head, however hitting them in the head does not do more damage. I don't know about you guys, but I actually feel insulted by that, that is one of those things that has been done in FPS for awhile now, but they couldn't be bothered, so now the whole game is one big spray and pray fest. It just seems stupid....why regress the genre?

 

[dart321]

*Gasp* Holy crap! Halo 2 is now a piece of shit!

Edit: Where are you getting this from? You have the leak?

 

[Sparta]

Who cares?

 

[Bleeder]

Thank you for your well thought out and worded reply. Next time try and say something relevant.

 

[Bleeder]

if you dont care then you dont have to post.....posting to tell me you don't care is counter productive. (no, i dont have the leak...i don't even have an xbox, this was confirmed from a friend who questioned a rep directly while at a managers conference for EB)
I am not saying that "XBOX IS TEHSUXORZ!!!" I am pointing it out because i think it is a strange thing for them not to have in a fps and i wanted to start a discussion about it.

 

[KagePrototype]

It's a console FPS, and a very fast one at that. it doesn't need locational damage, which will just make things more frustrating.

 

[dart321]

You're really desperate to try and find fault with halo 2 huh? I'm not saying the game won't have faults, but shooting a guy in the head and him taking more damage than shooting a guy in the torso and him taking less is not a major issue with me. At all. I, and many other, do not play Halo for it's realistic approach to combat. I don't even know if what you're posting is accurate.

 

[AmishSlayer]

HALO 2! Meaning shooting a guy in the foot will kill him as fast as shooting him in the head. and before anyone flames me about it, the sniper rifle "registers" a headshot if you hit them in the head, however hitting them in the head does not do more damage. I don't know about you guys, but I actually feel insulted by that, that is one of those things that has been done in FPS for awhile now, but they couldn't be bothered, so now the whole game is one big spray and pray fest. It just seems stupid....why regress the genre?

That's just plain incorrect (for the most part). Hitting people in the head for getting rid of shields doesn't do any extra dmg. After the shields are down locational dmg comes into play. As you said, snipers get 1 shot headshots. I'm pretty sure this is how it was in Halo 1 too. Shields take the same dmg no matter where. In SP there are hitbox locations as well after shields are down (for the enemies that have shields).

 

[Bleeder]

No i'm saying if you shoot a guy in the foot it does as much damage as shooting him in th head....so there is no point to aim.....it is dumbed down....and i am not trying to find fault with halo 2, this was told to me and i happened to find that strange. I am trying to start civilized discourse, not a flame war. No Amish waht the rep has said is that the sniper rifle is a 1 shot kill no matter where you hit the guy, it just tells you if you've hit the head, but there is no point to aim for the head.

 

[seinfeldrules]

They just said there isnt any HP though, its all shields.

Also, how the heck do you feel 'insulted' by it. Wow.

 

[KagePrototype]

No i'm saying if you shoot a guy in the foot it does as much damage as shooting him in th head....so there is no point to aim.....it is dumbed down....

I'll say it again...

It's a console fps. It is hard to aim with a control pad. How is this surprising?

 

[Bleeder]

how is it not suprising? ok whatever, you guys obviously don't care, and would rather all have a go at me personally rather than discussing the info that i brought up, so flame away guys....have fun.

 

[blackeye]

off topic. Bleeder do you go to scona in edmonton?

 

[Bleeder]

scona?

 

[Dalamari]

HOLY SHITE NO LOCATIONAL DAMAGE!

Really dude, it's a thing most games don't have, although Halo 2 has some locational damage as in a headshot and body shot does diff dmg.

 

[KagePrototype]

how is it not suprising?

Well, like I said, Halo focuses on very fast, very violent combat. If the player is punished for not being able to target a certain body part because it's too hard on an Xbox control pad, then things become frustrating, and thus not fun.

 

[Prada]

No i'm saying if you shoot a guy in the foot it does as much damage as shooting him in th head

Pure bs.

First of all there is something called headshot with the sniper rifle (instant kill duh).

I believe your friend has the leak, that will explain all the french in the game :rolling: (since the french version is the leaked one)

 

[Stigmata]

No i'm saying if you shoot a guy in the foot it does as much damage as shooting him in th head....so there is no point to aim.....it is dumbed down....and i am not trying to find fault with halo 2, this was told to me and i happened to find that strange. I am trying to start civilized discourse, not a flame war. No Amish waht the rep has said is that the sniper rifle is a 1 shot kill no matter where you hit the guy, it just tells you if you've hit the head, but there is no point to aim for the head.

And this information is from a friend who asked a guy who asked an EB manager? Now that's what I call concrete information! :dozey:

And if you're trying not to start a flame war, don't word your opinions this way. When I read your post, you really came off as an anti-Halo fanboy. Phrases like "I feel insulted", "they couldn't be bothered" and "why regress the genre" are obviously not going to go over well with Halo fans, myself included. Now please, get some CONCRETE info. Not "I heard this from a friend of a friend of a guy who owns a store that's selling the game" kind of info. The first-hand-experience kind of info. For all we know, the guy relaying or communicating the information is an idiot.

 

[Bleeder]

well, i see your point, but I don't really think that it should have locational damage so you would HAVE to aim for the head, so much as it should have it so that if you HAPPEN to hit their head while firing at tham it would kill them. NO my friend is the manager of an EB games...he asked the rep personally while at a managers conference.....how is that NOT concrete? And if he was an idiot why would i even tell you? I have no stake in this, i was never stoked for Halo 2, i do not own an xbox and i am not going to compare halo2 to half-life 2 as they are 2 totally different games. they will both be good in their own ways.

I am stating that IN MY PERSONAL OPINION locational damage adds to a game, and i don't think it would have been that hard to implement, and i was suprised that in as high profile a game as Halo2 they wouldn't put that in. (also i admit i could have worded my post a little less angrily, seeing as im not actually angry.)

 

[Stigmata]

NO my friend is the manager of an EB games...he asked the rep personally while at a managers conference.....how is that NOT concrete? And if he was an idiot why would i even tell you? I have no stake in this, i was never stoked for Halo 2, i do not own an xbox and i am not going to compare halo2 to half-life 2 as they are 2 totally different games. they will both be good in their own ways.

Ahh, okay. I must have misread your post. Sorry

Still, this rep (and forgive me for not knowing), what exactly does he do? Is he a Bungie rep? Unless he's a Bungie rep, or unless you can say he undoubtedly, definitely played Halo 2, I have no reason to fully believe what he told you.

 

[Bleeder]

It's ok . Yes he was a Bungie rep. Looking back at my posts i can see that i did come off like a bit off a knob, and for that I apologize. i just want to know what everyones opinion on this is.

 

[Dalamari]

Not much reason to care if a footshot/armshot makes a diff in a game where you get .3 seconds to think.

 

[Stigmata]

It's ok . Yes he was a Bungie rep. Looking back at my posts i can see that i did come off like a bit off a knob, and for that I apologize. i just want to know what everyones opinion on this is.

Well, since I haven't played Halo 2 yet, I'll just have to wait until Tuesday to find out if I'll like it or not. I think I'll enjoy it, since all the changes so far to the core experience seem to have been for the best. Except maybe the removal of healthpacks, which might hurt gameplay a bit, but unless those packs contained a single-use robot that injected biofoam into the MkV Mjolnir suit, they didn't make any sense.

 

[destrukt]

HALO 2! Meaning shooting a guy in the foot will kill him as fast as shooting him in the head. and before anyone flames me about it, the sniper rifle "registers" a headshot if you hit them in the head, however hitting them in the head does not do more damage. I don't know about you guys, but I actually feel insulted by that, that is one of those things that has been done in FPS for awhile now, but they couldn't be bothered, so now the whole game is one big spray and pray fest. It just seems stupid....why regress the genre?

using a pistol in halo: combat evolvd you could kill an enemy much faster [2 or so bullets] than shooting them anywhere else.

and hitting them in the head does do more damage, it can take 3 sniper bullets in combat evolved [depending on shield + life], but if you hit them in the head with full shield/life it kills them in 1 shot ?

gg.

+ this automatically makes a game crap? i'm kind of sick of hl2 fanboys claming that hl2 is sooooo awesome because of the awesome source engine and it's awesome physics.

 

[Venmoch]

So wait, Halo 2 should be punished because it doesn't have locational damage?

Even though it contains futuristic equipment and weaponary and is very far removed from the real world? Why would it have been useful?

 

[destrukt]

one more point: hl2 does have locational damage and halo2 is goign to be more successfull ? whoa, bee el to hl2.

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

But in the orginal halo headshots do more damage then foot shots, I know that. (in MP) and why all this Halo 2 vs. Half-Life 2 bullshit just let eachother enjoy your games.. that's so sad that you guys have nothing better to do then argue them against each other. :hmph:

 

[destrukt]

who says we don't have anything better to do :X

 

[Neutrino]

I dislike games with no locational damage. Not that I would by H2 anyway, but I wouldn't like that if it was true.

 

[Warbie]

Headshots hurt more in Halo - i'm sure they will in Halo 2.

You say you're not trolling - but the title of this thread alone suggest otherwise. You may as well have said 'ner ner nee ner ner Halo is pooo'!!11

 

[Newbie's Journey]

Who cares?

smart player cares

 

[Soundwave]

Meaning shooting a guy in the foot will kill him as fast as shooting him in the head. and before anyone flames me about it, the sniper rifle "registers" a headshot if you hit them in the head, however hitting them in the head does not do more damage. I don't know about you guys, but I actually feel insulted by that, that is one of those things that has been done in FPS for awhile now, but they couldn't be bothered, so now the whole game is one big spray and pray fest. It just seems stupid....why regress the genre?

This sounds extremely familiar...like there's another big FPS game that starts with H and ends with 2 that has this same problem...damn I can't think of the name of it.

 

[Edcrab]

Soundwave: You've stumped me there.

Deus Ex 2 didn't have (proper) locational damage at first, but the outcry was apparently so great that it warranted a patch to correct it. I just prefer locational damage in my games, but Halo 2 seems to be more hectic-arcade-chaos then any kind of tactical simulation, so it would fit fairly well. Hell, we don't even know if this is right.

 

[SidewinderX]

I am trying to start civilized discourse, not a flame war.

Then this was a fairly sad attempt at civil discourse.

Anyway, for the sake of the "discourse", if you want to explain it... You're a guy with a shield, clad in armor. The rounds hit the armor.

And regardless, I'm sure there isn't any less locational damage than there was in Halo 1. If you didn't have a problem with it then, I'm sure you won't now.

 

[Ames]

Natural Selection doesn't have locational damage...and it's the most widely played third party mod for HL.

 

[Mithrandir2]

wow you are stupid. ever heard of something called shields?

why do you suppose it takes 3 headshots as opposed to 7 (i think) chest shots to kill someone in Halo? enlighten me please

 

[BRODIEMAN2k4]

Halo 1 had locational damage

 

[chu]

Can't we try and just enjoy games anymore?

It's everyone's job to pick apart a game that other people like just because they are jealous they don't get the same amount of enjoyment from it.

...sad

 

[Sparta]

Can't we try and just enjoy games anymore?

It's everyone's job to pick apart a game that other people like just because they are jealous they don't get the same amount of enjoyment from it.

...sad

I know its so annoying and just pathetic

 

[Soundwave]

Not to mention hypocritical, in this case at least.

But yeah I'm going to go with pathetic as the most fitting description as well.