H.A.R.R.P a weapon to end all wars?

how did you find your posts from 2 years ago? when I search all the posts I've made it stops at around 500
 
CptStern said:
how did you find your posts from 2 years ago? when I search all the posts I've made it stops at around 500
i'm in direct communication with god, he told me how.
 
you lie ...I know for a fact god only talks to extremists who want to end abortion and same sex marriage ...oh and George bush


unless that is your one of ....those people
 
el Chi said:
1. If this is true, then huzzah for millions that should be spent on health care going to the military. I feel safer already.
2. Clarky, how come you NEVER post anymore except to announcce theoretical scientific "discoveries" that have shaky basis?

if you believe in what Tesla discovered using high frequencey electricity in his patent's it is not shakey atall, ignorance and denial surround his discovery of scalar waves in the establishment.. possibly because of the lack of willingness to comprehend that this subtle fundemental energy in the Ether is what drives and sustains our physical dimension.

I dont usually scan the forums that much anymore because i hardly have time to do it, hence the lack of posting, i would much rather post what I feel is important stuff than spam in every thread I see, I find the topics i post in I just end up repeating myself in one form or another anyway. So Im making a DM map for the community,and painting in my spare time instead, and not to mention the top secret research that goes on in my lab ;)
 
clarky003 said:
if you believe in what Tesla discovered using high frequencey electricity in his patent's it is not shakey atall, ignorance and denial surround his discovery of scalar waves in the establishment.. possibly because of the lack of willingness to comprehend that this subtle fundemental energy in the Ether is what drives and sustains our physical dimension.

I dont usually scan the forums that much anymore because i hardly have time to do it, hence the lack of posting, i would much rather post what I feel is important stuff than spam in every thread I see, I find the topics i post in I just end up repeating myself in one form or another anyway. So Im making a DM map for the community,and painting in my spare time instead, and not to mention the top secret research that goes on in my lab ;)

The Ether? Why is that relevant? Is that the same ether that is refered to as the medium that light propagates through? Although the ether is regarded to be irrelevant or non-existant, because it can not be detected.
So why wouldn't you say the fundamental energy in space itself or the universe, etc.

Our physical dimension? What would you define that as?
 
everyone knows matter is infact defined by its vibrational properties its the interactions between these energies that create our physical world, Tesla if correct proves that we shouldnt be ignorant within our own senses.. the material world isnt as 'real' or physical as we assume it to be, its only our symbiotic vibrational relationships that make it seem so.

id define our dimension as a set of vibrational energies that we are atuned to, some energies we cant see, but are aware of because of technology, how do cells arrange and talk to each other? we call it DNA, but we dont understand how, theres an invisible element to the arrangement, its somehow predetermined on a more subtle energy level , 'Ether' perhaps? dont say Ether isnt relevant its even metioned in university quantum physics books, matter isnt static it is constantly replenished the electron gets its energy from 'virtual' particles as we know, which is our excuse for why its movement is perpetual , the virtual element is what keeps it going, if subtle vibrational energies out of our detectable range are feeding other vibrational energies we observe it makes the 'ether' very relevant, because if you can manipulate the ether, you should beable to manipulate matter, changing its vibrational properties.

Ether is just another term for the fundemental energy level in the universe, its just a word... you can interpret it or call it whatever you want, its the same thing.
 
Foxtrot said:
We didn't test it on Hiroshima you ****ing moron, we tested it before that, and no one died. We then dropped it to end a war which was not started by us, and we only were involved after the slaughter of a peace time military force in our country.

What country can we trust with this? Russia? They will sell it like that do everything. France? They can't give it to Iraq anymore...but I am sure they would find something.

Wow what a ****ing good example of an average american dumbass (ps. this wasn`t meant as an insult for the other US citizens of this forum :p )
So you tested it and it had no effects, so then you decided to "test" it on hiroshima too right? Makes sense to me. :hmph:
And if the war wasn`t started by you, does that stand as an excuse for dropping the bomb? Other nations had atom bombs too and they could nuke the world if they wanted to but they wasn`t playing smart right?

It is really funny watching americans defend themeselves and pretending to be the "saviors" or the "good guys" (just like almost every american war movie, you know, the ones with the "good" americans fighting for love & peace and the bad guys -be it japanese or russians- trying to vanish humanity while the good americans come to save the world).


I`ll stop before this becomes a flame war (besides there is a special forum for this :p )
 
He he he.

Who was it who said that "terrorists" are after this technology?

OK, right now terrorists down even have the technology to use chemical weapons (Or we'd have seen um by now), they have to resort to strapping explosives to themselves to deal out damage. Basically their technology is quite a long way behind ours.... but then... suddenly... next tuesday.... MIND CONTROL! Yes, after all this time they can just send all the coalition to sleep, make everyone else an al-quaeda fan-boy, give all the countries who supported the Iraq war crap weather for one hundred years and put on a celebratory show of auroa lights over Iraq.

I like the idea of making an orgasm ray, then I'd sign up for any army. "What's that? We're out numbered? Quality! I'll pack my spare underwear."
 
ZeeM said:
Wow what a ****ing good example of an average american dumbass (ps. this wasn`t meant as an insult for the other US citizens of this forum :p )
So you tested it and it had no effects, so then you decided to "test" it on hiroshima too right? Makes sense to me. :hmph:
And if the war wasn`t started by you, does that stand as an excuse for dropping the bomb? Other nations had atom bombs too and they could nuke the world if they wanted to but they wasn`t playing smart right?

It is really funny watching americans defend themeselves and pretending to be the "saviors" or the "good guys" (just like almost every american war movie, you know, the ones with the "good" americans fighting for love & peace and the bad guys -be it japanese or russians- trying to vanish humanity while the good americans come to save the world).

I`ll stop before this becomes a flame war (besides there is a special forum for this :p )
You moron, we told the Japanese what we were going to do, we did it, we told them if they don't surrerender we would do it again, they didn't give up, we did it again, they gave up. They brough it upen themselves, and many many American lives (and arguably Japanese) were saved.
 
ZeeM said:
Wow what a ****ing good example of an average american dumbass (ps. this wasn`t meant as an insult for the other US citizens of this forum :p )
So you tested it and it had no effects, so then you decided to "test" it on hiroshima too right? Makes sense to me. :hmph:
And if the war wasn`t started by you, does that stand as an excuse for dropping the bomb? Other nations had atom bombs too and they could nuke the world if they wanted to but they wasn`t playing smart right?

It is really funny watching americans defend themeselves and pretending to be the "saviors" or the "good guys" (just like almost every american war movie, you know, the ones with the "good" americans fighting for love & peace and the bad guys -be it japanese or russians- trying to vanish humanity while the good americans come to save the world).


I`ll stop before this becomes a flame war (besides there is a special forum for this :p )
No one likes the idea of obliterating an entire city. Not even us evil, bloodthirsty Americans.

A few problems with your post:

1.)
Other nations had atom bombs too and they could nuke the world if they wanted to but they wasn`t playing smart right?
No. We were the first country with an atom bomb, and the only one with an atom bomb in 1945.

2.)
It is really funny watching americans defend themeselves and pretending to be the "saviors" or the "good guys" (just like almost every american war movie, you know, the ones with the "good" americans fighting for love & peace and the bad guys -be it japanese or russians- trying to vanish humanity while the good americans come to save the world).
And here's an example of the American media twisting things out of proportion. It is a movie, for entertainment purposes - and the popular culture likes to be entertained by hearing how great it is. Isn't it that way anywhere?

To non-US citizens out there: Please, please, don't judge us by how the media presents us. The younger generation of Japan is having this problem right now - they want to be "cool" like Americans; unfortunately, their idea of acting "American" is emulating what they see on MTV. (I'm generalizing here, but is indeed a very real problem.)

3.)
So you tested it and it had no effects, so then you decided to "test" it on hiroshima too right? Makes sense to me. :hmph:
That's not what he said.

4.)
I`ll stop before this becomes a flame war (besides there is a special forum for this.
Ah, but you can't simply say, "IT ENDS HERE!" with no chance for a rebuttal.

5.)
Wow what a ****ing good example of an average american dumbass
That isn't the way to begin a well thought out argument that you don't want Americans to respond to.

Whoa, that's a rant unlike any other I've ever posted here. I'm ashamed - moderators, take me away, please, before I hurt myself.
 
This is just ****ing retarded.

So you tested it and it had no effects, so then you decided to "test" it on hiroshima too right? Makes sense to me. :hmph:

Yes, we believed that a 19 kiloton bomb that left a crater 330 meters wide had 'no effects.' For more information, read about the damn Trinity test, the explosion of the first atomic bomb, which yes...it makes perfect sense, was....get this...tested in an empty desert. The shock wave was felt over 160 kilometers away. Makes shens to me.

Narcolepsy said:
Whoa, that's a rant unlike any other I've ever posted here. I'm ashamed - moderators, take me away, please, before I hurt myself.

Don't worry it's alright.

/me stabs Narc
 
clarky003 said:
everyone knows matter is infact defined by its vibrational properties its the interactions between these energies that create our physical world, Tesla if correct proves that we shouldnt be ignorant within our own senses.. the material world isnt as 'real' or physical as we assume it to be, its only our symbiotic vibrational relationships that make it seem so.

id define our dimension as a set of vibrational energies that we are atuned to, some energies we cant see, but are aware of because of technology, how do cells arrange and talk to each other? we call it DNA, but we dont understand how, theres an invisible element to the arrangement, its somehow predetermined on a more subtle energy level , 'Ether' perhaps? dont say Ether isnt relevant its even metioned in university quantum physics books, matter isnt static it is constantly replenished the electron gets its energy from 'virtual' particles as we know, which is our excuse for why its movement is perpetual , the virtual element is what keeps it going, if subtle vibrational energies out of our detectable range are feeding other vibrational energies we observe it makes the 'ether' very relevant, because if you can manipulate the ether, you should beable to manipulate matter, changing its vibrational properties.

Ether is just another term for the fundemental energy level in the universe, its just a word... you can interpret it or call it whatever you want, its the same thing.

The ether of the early 20th century mentioned in typical University textbooks is not that at all. It is defined as the medium which light may propagate. Scientists searching for this ether discovered light moves at the same speed in all frames of reference - a null result - therefore the ether does not exist or it is something undetectable.

As for matter it is described by the forces of interaction between intrinsic properties of "particles", where a quantum particle is not a billard ball type construct, but represented by a probability distribution. These intrinsic properties will have an associated energy dependent on distance between these "particles"

matter isnt static it is constantly replenished the electron gets its energy from 'virtual' particles as we know
What is replenished? The electron has an intrinsic energy and an addition of uncertainty of energy - associated with the uncertainty in momentum.
Virtual particles do provide energy, but this energy must be repaid within the time constraints of the Uncertainty Principle. So any significant energy the electron gets from this is lost within a short period of time.

The electron "orbitting" an atom is not in motion in the physical sense - rather it is "in existence" randomly in accordance with it's wavefunction.

Thinking it of a quantum particle with a "motion" in the classical sense is exactly the the same as assuming the material world is "real"

To grasp it's understanding fully, a course in Quantum Physics is required, it aids in letting go of classical preconceptions, as this Bearden fellow seems to be a victim of. He seems to happily take on quantum physics that suits himself, and dismiss any that go against him.

As for fundamental energy levels of the Universe - you may want to read up on the Dirac Sea. He said there was an infinitely negative energy sea, which was filled to a zero energy. A particle could be excited out of this negative energy.
This theory is now explained by antiparticles - a particle could be excited to a postive energy - an electron, whereas the "hole"left by this excited state in the negative energy would be termed a positron.
 
ive read up about all of this and perfectly understand it, im not fantastic at writing it all down perfectly i admit, and you dont really need to lecture me on what the concept of the electron is, i was simply mentioning it as its model suggests. I think the problem with the modern developing theory is materialism.. applying math to physical models created to reflect a non physical element, etc, string theory is the best example im sure you'll agree, why not just put your hands up and accept that to develop our understanding further you cant purely rely on material science without factoring in the conciousness of the individual to realise the full extent of the limitations of our perceptions, and how our science is the direct result of our concious perception based assemsments of the vibrational energies that we perceive as solid because of us being on the same vibrational wave length. its like schrodingers cat, he fails to factor in the Karma of the cat.

So any significant energy the electron gets from this is lost within a short period of time.

so you and I both accept the energy is coming from somewhere e.g Dirac sea

although from the very thourough understanding shown by the mention of the word 'intrinsic' im sure its a perfectly sound reason for why the electron energy exists :p , intrinsic is the brick wall of science, and it is clearly a concious acceptance that you cant or wont attempt to develop the understanding further, in a way its a very neive way of accepting our limitations, I dont believe that the majority of the electrons energy is magically sustained intrinsically from the moment of the 'big bang' which where everything, I might remind, came out of nothing somehow 'intrinsically' :p its being sustained from somewhere we cant percieve, quantum models show the universe is fluxuating constantly on more fundamental levels... in the case of the entirity of the universe I dont think for a second that what you see is what you get.
 
ZeeM said:
lol you`re kidding right? I mean, it was the US who "tested" the first atom bomb on Hiroshima right? Not any of the other`s you mentioned.
Or do you say they ****ed it up, because France and Russia didn`t do anything similar, like blowing up a whole city? :|

We tested the atom bomb in the middle of the new mexico desert, codename "Trinity" you ****ing ignorant dumbass.
 
I watched an interview of the guy (the guy who made the tech and is now saying the Government is using it as a weapon) some documentary and he looked like a total loonie...
 
I just like the fact that Tesla's getting a look-in. Everyone always forgets about old Nik and his contributions to modern technology.
 
I wouldn't be surprised either way - whether it's an actual, brazen ionospheric heater, or a ruse to keep people occupied. That can be powerful, as well...
 
clarky003 said:
ive read up about all of this and perfectly understand it, im not fantastic at writing it all down perfectly i admit, and you dont really need to lecture me on what the concept of the electron is, i was simply mentioning it as its model suggests. I think the problem with the modern developing theory is materialism.. applying math to physical models created to reflect a non physical element, etc, string theory is the best example im sure you'll agree, why not just put your hands up and accept that to develop our understanding further you cant purely rely on material science without factoring in the conciousness of the individual to realise the full extent of the limitations of our perceptions, and how our science is the direct result of our concious perception based assemsments of the vibrational energies that we perceive as solid because of us being on the same vibrational wave length. its like schrodingers cat, he fails to factor in the Karma of the cat.



so you and I both accept the energy is coming from somewhere e.g Dirac sea

although from the very thourough understanding shown by the mention of the word 'intrinsic' im sure its a perfectly sound reason for why the electron energy exists :p , intrinsic is the brick wall of science, and it is clearly a concious acceptance that you cant or wont attempt to develop the understanding further, in a way its a very neive way of accepting our limitations, I dont believe that the majority of the electrons energy is magically sustained intrinsically from the moment of the 'big bang' which where everything, I might remind, came out of nothing somehow 'intrinsically' :p its being sustained from somewhere we cant percieve, quantum models show the universe is fluxuating constantly on more fundamental levels... in the case of the entirity of the universe I dont think for a second that what you see is what you get.

I'm not sure what you mean by materialism, I never said electrons must permanently saty as electrons, current models do not limit particles to stay in one form. Particles such as quarks are not limited to stay as quarks, but via virtual particles can change into electrons - as long as intrinsic properties are conserved. Electrons have certain intrinsic properties, since without these properties, they would not be what we label as electrons.
Indeed my Particle Physics lecturer said "This course is not really about particles - the particles are just a consequence or side effect of a combination of other factors we will study"

However some of these properties are not conserved - eg Neutrino oscillations, one flavour of lepton is not conserved absolutely.
And in the weak interaction - Charge Congugation (C) and Parity (P) are not perfectly symmetrical, neither are they symmetrical upon combination (CP) - there is a noticable CP violation.
One of the theories is that these properties are conserved with a further combination of a time reversal operator(T).
The theory is that CPT is conserved. So we attempt to fix the limits of our understanding - in this case we try to find new symmetries when the old ones just do not add up.


our concious perception based assemsments of the vibrational energies that we perceive as solid because of us being on the same vibrational wave length.

We believe things to be solid because of the electromagnetic interactions between matter. The only size of matter is judged on the scale of the interactions. Without these interactions, the material world would not exist.
Ask the question - why would these vibrational energies necessarily be on the same wavelength? An intrinsic property of the matter? Or highly improbable coincidence?


so you and I both accept the energy is coming from somewhere e.g Dirac sea
That is the theory, but there have been futher developed theories. They're trying to observe the processes particles undergo. That's what Cern is about.

As for String Theory, it looks pretty fantastic and eloquent.
But the frustration in it is that the hypothesised energy strings seem to be too small to measure the properties - without observation all we have is a book of numbers. It is something I would like to see developed further though. Even if it proves to be a dead end, I'm sure all of the developed theory will assist in whatever succeeds it.

I dont believe that the majority of the electrons energy is magically sustained intrinsically from the moment of the 'big bang' which where everything, I might remind, came out of nothing

I said the electron has certain intrinsic properties, meaning those such as a 1/2 spin - without it, it could not be an electron, and would not behave as an electron. The energy is variable - and quantised when bound to an atom. When bound to an atom, its energy does not change, unless excited.

The big bang, well the formulation of a Grand Unified Theory is attempting to deal with that - the point where both General Relativity and Quantum Theory break down (Quantum on a small scale, General Relativity on a massive scale) - but both theories cannot be right, there must be a resolution, some kind of quantum theory of gravity is in order. We already know some properties of what a quantum gravity system must have - spin 2 gravitons.

in the case of the entirity of the universe I dont think for a second that what you see is what you get
Well, that much has been obvious to man since the dawn of time.
 
wow its the first time so many ppl quote my post :thumbs:

Foxtrot said:
You moron, we told the Japanese what we were going to do, we did it, we told them if they don't surrerender we would do it again, they didn't give up, we did it again, they gave up. They brough it upen themselves, and many many American lives (and arguably Japanese) were saved.

Logic at its best. We told them, so there is no problem. Its not our fault, so we warned them and its not our fault. Makes sense again.

Narcolepsy said:
That's not what he said.
Foxtrot said:
We didn't test it on Hiroshima you ****ing moron, we tested it before that, and no one died.



Narcolepsy said:
That isn't the way to begin a well thought out argument that you don't want Americans to respond to.
Oh yes and this is:
Foxtrot said:
We didn't test it on Hiroshima you ****ing moron
And then follow some posts from fellow americans trying to defend themselves in a more civilized way:
Milkman said:
new mexico desert, codename "Trinity" you ****ing ignorant dumbass.
Shens said:
This is just ****ing retarded.

Narcolepsy said:
To non-US citizens out there: Please, please, don't judge us by how the media presents us. The younger generation of Japan is having this problem right now - they want to be "cool" like Americans; unfortunately, their idea of acting "American" is emulating what they see on MTV. (I'm generalizing here, but is indeed a very real problem.)
Yes, I hope it is the way you say but watching more and more US forums I also tend to have more doubts about this everytime.

Narcolepsy said:
Ah, but you can't simply say, "IT ENDS HERE!" with no chance for a rebuttal.
If you search my post history, you`ll see that I don`t like taking part in arguments. Some wise forumer (dont remember who) said something along the lines "Arguing on the internet is like special olympics. Even if you win, you are still retarded". :p

Shens said:
Yes, we believed that a 19 kiloton bomb that left a crater 330 meters wide had 'no effects.' For more information, read about the damn Trinity test, the explosion of the first atomic bomb, which yes...it makes perfect sense, was....get this...tested in an empty desert. The shock wave was felt over 160 kilometers away. Makes shens to me.
Uhh this is what foxtrot said.

I can`t believe I spent 5 mins of my life quoting all those posts. PLEASE DONT MAKE ME POST MORE :x
 
ZeeM said:
Some wise forumer (dont remember who) said something along the lines "Arguing on the internet is like special olympics. Even if you win, you are still retarded". :p


El Chi
 
Clarky...how old are you and what school do you go to (type of education)?



and now for relaxation watch

KIKKOMAN
 
im 20 man, and i do design at university, im not a science wizz, but Id like to think I was quite intuitive. I enjoy chatting to Kirovman, all viewpoints are valid imo, i like to mix new science and spirtualisim and there is a strong relationship within the basis of vaccum and ZPE, if new energy technologies work they can pioneer our understanding of interactions we couldnt comprehend before. If Beardens MEG, works 200 to 300 % efficiencey and it appears to do so. you cant ignore that it needs to be taken into account before you go trying to create unified theories.

Well, that much has been obvious to man since the dawn of time.

then ultimately we totally agree, we just have different ways of expressing ourselves.

I just dont happen to think science being used as it is will let us fully comprehend the mysteries of the universe we are a part of without introducing conciousness as a factor, thats what i mean by materialistic, the methodology treats the universe as though it is seperate as if we are not contributing to the picture. when the very reason we detect what we do is because of our human condition.

for everyone.

some good books you can buy on the subject...

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/01/307309.shtml

TO UNDERSTAND HAARP: NWO's Scalar Electromagnetics: secret 20th century parallel tech path
author: overview
I've been promising this description of scalar energy physics and technology ever since posting this:

Title: HAARP-watch: fake HAARP tremors rock earth deep beneath San Andreas Fault, Author: haarp-watch, Michel Chossudovsky, Date: 2004.12.11 07:02, Description: Mysterious tremors deep beneath the San Andreas Fault near the quake-prone town of Parkfield are shaking the earth's brittle crust, FAR BELOW THE REGION WHERE EARTHQUAKES NORMALLY STRIKE -- and scientists say THEY CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING or what the motions mean. Seismic researchers are monitoring the strange vibrations..."..."We see this kind of tremor activity inside volcanoes like Mount St. Helens," Nadeau said, "but that's due to the movement of rising magma, and in the tremors we've recorded there's NO EVIDENCE OF VOLCANISM and NO SEISMIC WAVES TYPICAL OF ORDINARY EARTHQUAKES." "In the US, the technology is being perfected under the High-frequency Active Aural Research Program (HAARP) as part of the ("Star Wars") Strategic Defence Initiative (SDI). Recent scientific evidence suggests that HAARP is fully operational and has the ability of potentially triggering floods, droughts, hurricanes and earthquakes. From a military standpoint, HAARP is a weapon of mass destruction. Potentially, it constitutes an instrument of conquest capable of selectively destabilising agricultural and ecological systems of entire regions." http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/12/305741.shtml

Here it is.

TOM BEARDEN QUOTE: "I'm. . .trying to finish my book: Energy from the Vacuum: Concepts and Principles, and get it to the publisher for publication later this year. Hopefully the book will turn all the interested young grad students and post-docs loose in the free-energy area. They will not have to spend 30 agonizing years to get to where I am, and where a few others are, but can simply start here and go forward."

TO UNDERSTAND HAARP:

1.

First, I suggest you actually buy and read this book. Then you will understand the history of the reality of this parallel path of technology based on a submurged (top secret) aspect of physics research they DO NOT TEACH IN UNIVERSITIES in public. The author is actually a military industrial complex journalist named Nick Cook who writes regularly for Janes Military Review, one of the flagship publications of news about this industry. In other words, he's very straightforward, and only goes where the data shows or the history shows that he can document. He has a stolid reputation to maintain.

The Hunt for Zero Point: Inside the Classified World of Antigravity Technology -- by Nick Cook; Paperback
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...77/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/103-0296109-2306215

2.

Second, know that scalar energy has nothing to do with the way most 19th/20th century physics around thermodynamics works. The whole parallel path of technology is based on a whole parallel path of "untaught" science. "Untaught" at least in the sense of public universities: taught as a "need to know" basis and wholly within black operations research, from the things I have read about people who were let in on it. This secret physics parallel path of physical information about your world is just as real as thermodynamics, though most "open" science would pretend that thermodynamics is all that we have mostly. Hardly. This parallel path relates to much of Tesla's work which even as late as the 1990s--when extra notes of his turned up--still finds itself immediately seized by the "men in black" without any explanation, according to the people who had it seized from them.

3.

Know that there is a political economic rationale as well as a military industrial complex rationale to keep it out of sight. In other words, with a lot of money dedicated to thermodynamics-based technologies of energy, they would rather have the political strategic sense of a monopoly on making money off it without any competition from something much safer, faster, and more ecologically sound. A lot of the people working with this type of energy, technology, and physics--Tesla included--were Actually this now "hidden" technology was a competitor with oil/aviation/thernodynamics/physics based technologies THROUGH THE 1930s and immediately after WWII, when some astounding technologies were being created from it. HOWEVER, a lot of money already sunk on infrastructure (and Rockefeller money making, on oil) with aviation jet fuel, militaries, car industry, training, factories, etc.--would have to have been totally written off--OIL WOULD HAVE BEEN TOTALLY REMOVED FROM STATE POLITICAL SUPPORT. So with a powerful oil lobby [actually connected with Skull and Bones secret society from the beginning of the oil industry from the 1860s; see "2 web-videos of Kris Millegan taking about Skull & Bones [FoxNews LIVE; & at 9-11 Inquiry]", 23:48 Dec-05, http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/12/305275.shtml ], it was simply developed in the private womb of the world's top secret programs for militaries instead.

This parallel path was based on motive power of elecromagnetics and ionized fields that were shown to work so well in the 1930s in nascent tests that they were immediately classified--particularly in the company known then as Martin, now, Martin Marietta. [The Hunt for Zero Point]. Some of this top secret information goes into the Princeton University's Institute for Advanced Studies, which worked on "war science" issues in the late 1930s through WWII. If you can believe it, with this information, they made a ship invisible by applying the physics to technology. (Project Rainbow; Philadelphia Project) [ http://www.bielek.com; The Hunt for Zero Point discusses the stories around this as well. However, note that Nick Cook's book is insufficient: Nick was unaware of the Bielek "information/testimony"--until yours truly was able to tell him about it in 2003, well after his book was published. It all connects.]

4.

THIS TECHNOLOGY IS BEING SPRUNG ON THE WORLD FROM THE 1990s onward! Mostly in covert applications, because of its history.

Know that according to Phil Schneider*, the Gulf War I (George H. W. Bush's war on Saddam, in 1990-1) WAS THE FIRST WAR TO USE THIS BLACK OP'S TECHNOLOGY IN A WAR THEATRE! http://www.bielek.com. A few years after Gulf War I, a scalar hit was registered as well on the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City in 1995, another "real life test." [*-who was murdered in a few months after first speaking out about his black ops tech jobs, and the dangers he felt democracy was in for because of traitorous criminals he had seen using them for fascist political purposes in the USA and NATO.]

THIS TECHNOLOGY IS BEING SPRUNG ON THE WORLD FROM THE 1990s onward! Thus, you are required to know about this immediately. Given the earthquake standdown, focused at Aceh, Sumatra, it is very likely that this technology is being used to seed earthquakes that people WANT to cause damage for politcal purposes. Similarly, as Bush was sabre-ratting against Iran last year, we have an instance of the "out of the blue" quality of the Bam, Iran earthquake. Bam, Iran is an ancient city that has stood for over 2000 years. Then, suddenly it has a devestating earthquake WHERE THE EPICENTER from what I have read came from directly below the city!

Plus the Aum Shinryoko (sp?) Japanese organized crime religious cult (and science research group) seemed to have possessed this technology and used it in the Australian outback in the 1990s. They may have been connected with the earthquake hit on Kobe, Japan in the 1990s--which this group made a public announcement DAYS BEFORE IT HAPPENED THAT KOBE WOULD BE HIT.

This may have been what the U.S. Secretary of State was referring to when he talked of an "eco-type of terrorism!"

U.S. Secretary of State, William Cohen, said in 1997: "Others [terrorists] are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves... So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations... It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our [counterterrorism] efforts." --- Secretary of Defense William Cohen at an April 1997 counterterrorism conference sponsored by former Senator Sam Nunn. Quoted from DoD News Briefing, Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, Q&A at the Conference on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy, University of Georgia, Athens, Apr. 28, 1997.

"In short,. . .the Secretary of Defense of the United States confirmed that there are indeed novel kinds of EM weapons, right now and have been for some time, which have been and are being used to (1) initiate earthquakes, (2) engineer the weather and climate, and (3) initiate the eruption of volcanoes. We wrote about those exact uses of the weaponry decades ago. Several nations now have such weapons. Three of them (two on one side and the other on a hostile side) are even firing practice shots into Western Australia, as a convenient test range."

Representative Dennis Kucinich attempts to have such HAARP technologies and "planet threatening weapons" banned in his 2001 bill, though the sections about HAARP and these technologies were removed under pressure, according to Kucinich.

The USSR attempted to have the U.S. agree to the total banning of scalar electromagnetic warfare in the 1970s. The U.S. refuses! That should tell you something.


5.

INTERESTING FULL CIRCLE

Know that everything about scalar energy was actually in Maxwell's eletromagnetic equations of the late 19th century. It was only a set of the equations that were left out in technological applications, because it was "unrequired" for working in thermodynamics applications. However, if you put them back in, you have the very byzantine information to design technology for scalar applications.

6.

SCALAR MISSING HERITAGE OF 19TH CENTURY, MADE GOOD IN EARLY 20TH CENTURY--UNTIL MADE TOP SECRET!

Thus, scalar is a missing heritage of the "Second Industrial Revolution" (as it has been called), the chemical/electromagnetic technological revolution of the late 1800s onward.

It is based on a different type of energy, which requires a completely different type of technology to harness. To understand that interaction between hidden science and its hidden technology. It helps to read this:

7.


Scalar Wars
The Brave New World of Scalar Electromagnetics
by Bill Morgan
For the past six months I have been undergoing the greatest paradigm shift I have ever had to go through. It has rattled my nerves and shaken my bones. This intense adjustment of my "world" has come about by studying the information given by Col. Tom Bearden at his website Cheniere. The new knowledge there has necessitated a total revision of my ideas about physical reality, the world we live in, and the future of humanity. This paradigm shifting even actually made me dizzy on certain days as I tried to absorb and digest Bearden's vast amount of information. I am not a scientist at all, just a layman, and I have little comprehension of the math and high physics of this new science called "Scalar Electromagnetics." But there is a great deal of information at Cheniere which needs to become common knowledge as fast as possible, for the sake of the survival of life on earth. To that end I have put together this small primer of Bearden's ideas, as a kind of "beginner's guide" to his website. (I have tried to underline certain words and phrases which are part of the new "jargon" of talking about these "new" phenomena. Also I have taken the liberty of bolding certain words and phrases to help them stick in the mind).
(Note: Throughout "EM" means "electromagnetic," and "LW" means "longitudinal wave")


This article has six sections:


1. New Waves

2. Tapping the Waves

3. Weaponization

4. Healing

5. Psychoenergetics

6. As It Stands
 
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