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[Korgoth]

yeah i'll get a new one eventually oh wait look ........................ it works its a bloody miracle all hail bush he cured my keyboard........wooohoooo.......thank jesus, i mean bush, oh hell whats the damn difference he is doing gods work anyways right? Thats what he says.......it. his. crusade.

 

[alehm]

I see the Hl2.net forum posters can solve the worlds problems. If we can only get the worlds leaders to read this post which is supposed to be about Fragmaster, then the world would be a better place......

 

[JavaGuy]

Originally posted by MaddMexican
Don’t forget his record as governor of Arkansas.

Bah, that's a whole new thread

 

[JavaGuy]

Originally posted by Innervision961
yeah i'll get a new one eventually oh wait look ........................ it works its a bloody miracle all hail bush he cured my keyboard........wooohoooo.......thank jesus, i mean bush, oh hell whats the damn difference he is doing gods work anyways right? Thats what he says.......it. his. crusade.

Now if we can just get Hilary to return the White House furniture, we'll all be set!

 

[MaddMexican]

Yep.

 

[Korgoth]

truth is all politicians are liars and scum thats the way it works, i don't like clinton but its blatently obvious things were better under his administraion BJ's aside, so lets just forget it already like i said about 10 posts ago.... Back to half life 2

Edit: come on dude that was weak, if your going to make a closing statement please refer to something relevant, im talking about innocent dead people in iraq (double the numder that were killed on 9/11) by our presence there and you come back with stolen furniture?

 

[MaddMexican]

Don't get me started on Hilary.

 

[JavaGuy]

Originally posted by Innervision961
Edit: oooops almost forgot, one good thing is going on there, the oil ministry is secure, screw the schools hospitals and museums as long as the oil ministry is safe thats all that matters, just a coincidence we secured it first huh? yeah who needs water and electricity anyway

Here's a lesson in common sense:

The oil supply in Iraq is Iraq's only source of income; it's the core component of their economy. Without it, there are no schools, water, electricity, etc... because the country wouldn't have a dime to their name.

 

[Homer]

Originally posted by Innervision961
well were are the hugs kisses and flowers we were promised before we went to iraq huh? We liberated them only so that we could rape their women break into their houses at night with our hi tech weapons and terrify the sh*t out of innocent people day in and day out, i guess land mines and RPGs are a good bomb substitute, call me crazy huhuhuhuh but thats not my idea of liberation or freedom

Edit: oooops almost forgot, one good thing is going on there, the oil ministry is secure, screw the schools hospitals and museums as long as the oil ministry is safe thats all that matters, just a coincidence we secured it first huh? yeah who needs water and electricity anyway

We ARE opening schools, we HAVE fixed the power grid, and we are for the most part getting a very warm welcome. Why aren’t the TV news stations reporting this? Simple: because nobody wants to watch a US soldier fixing the wiring in a library when 2 soldiers were just killed by terrorists 30 miles from there.

If we wanted oil there are plenty of places we could get it without hardly any conflict. The US does not/did not import much oil from Iraq, the majority of their oil goes to nations like France (surprise). The US has no need to go to war for oil, at least make something up that makes since, like bush did it to make his father look better or something.

Oh, and on the rape thing: The military does NOT do that sort of thing. It seems like everyone that saw platoon as a child thinks that’s what things are really like. For one thing they don’t have time to be out raping women, for another they would be court marshaled so fast it made their head spin, and finally, the armed forces doesn’t have to take on delinquents anymore. Back in Vietnam many of the soldiers over there went as an alternative to prison. With modern technology we do not need all of those cowboys running around out there, so only the creme of the crop get sent over there.

 

[JavaGuy]

Originally posted by MaddMexican
Don't get me started on Hilary.

Based on the text I've read, I can honestly say that she's the worst of the two. Bill is just a burger-chomping clown... Hilary, on the other hand, is actually dangerous.

 

[Korgoth]

good you win, game over, now shut up and BACK TO HALF LIFE 2!!!
I will never doubt George H W Bush EVER EVER again! He is the supreme good of the world he fixes everyones problems everything i have said in this thread has been mindless dribble please forgive oh great ones!!!! Come on celebrate lets all be sheep! BACK TO HALF LIFE 2!
Edit: fixed a typo

 

[liminal]

The fact is the war was illegal by international law. We were not in any immanent danger from Iraq and this was known before the war began. There has been no connection made between Iraq and 9/11.

I do agree the Saddam was a terrible dictator who killed his own citizens and terrified Iraq and I won’t miss him.

So when do we start invading North Korean, Cuba, China, Many African nations…so on? They don’t have much oil, do they?...and they actually DO have weapons of mass destruction.

This slope is getting slippery.

 

[JavaGuy]

Originally posted by Homer
If we wanted oil there are plenty of places we could get it without hardly any conflict. The US does not/did not import much oil from Iraq, the majority of their oil goes to nations like France (surprise). The US has no need to go to war for oil, at least make something up that makes since, like bush did it to make his father look better or something.

LOL

Good points

 

[Korgoth]

ugh, did you read my post?

No forget it i lied, i have somethign else to say...
Why do you guys take to heart any bad thing that is said about bush, really, honestly, im not saying anything about your opinions on these topics, yet you clump bush and your beliefs all into one category and then try to paint my opinions as moronic, and that i some how have no right to say bad things about something or someone i don't agree with, you never once tried to support your opinions only bush why is that?

 

[MaddMexican]

International law does not come before our Constitution.

 

[OCybrManO]

Originally posted by JavaGuy
You slam Republicans for lying, but when someone brings up how Clinton lied to a FEDERAL GRAND JURY, you excuse it because it was about a "blow job". It's good to see that you're capable of excusing lies, exaggerations, etc, as long as their "for good or insignificant reasons".

In my opinion, they should have kept the whole thing private until they had proof, then confronted him with the proof and said "Look, we know what you did. We'll give you a week to break it to your family before we make it public."
I don't condone any lies, especially to a Grand Jury... but if it is between him and his wife it is none of my business, or theirs, in the first place.

... but when Bush lies to the public about things that directly involve them (tax cuts) or could endanger their lives (going to war) it is a completely different story.

Originally posted by JavaGuy
That tends to happen when times are good. But, that's not to say that times were good because of Clinton.

You don't think assault rifle bans, gun control laws, putting more police on the streets, and instituting community policing had anything to do with it? None at all?

Originally posted by JavaGuy
Oh yeah... and Somalia was a RAGING success! GOOD WORK BILL!

It was started by Bush Sr.
Clinton continued it for a while, then in May of 1993 he officially turned the operation over to UN control.
GOOD WORK BUSH, CLINTON, AND UN!
The events portrayed in 'Black Hawk Down' occured after the UN took control.

Originally posted by JavaGuy
To say that Clinton has been successful at preventing terror is a joke. He wasn't any more successful than anyone else, and in many cases, he was a total and utter failure. There's a reason the military refused to salute him.

Speaking of terror, you obviously aren't aware of the convicted Cuban terrorists that Bill Clinton pardoned (and they didn't even go throught he pardon process via the Justice Department), who then subsequently contributed substantial donations to Hillary's campaign. Yeah, Clinton was "Mr. Anti-Terror" alright.

He did a lot that people don't acknowledge anymore in his two terms but I agree that the pardoning of the terrorists is very questionable...
The thing I said that he did in terms of terrorism was to fund the agencies that help to give advance warnings about attacks (which helped quite a bit on several occasions).

Originally posted by JavaGuy
I don't know where you're getting your information from, but it's pretty widely known that part of the reason the FBI was under such scrutiny after 9/11 is because he DIDN'T get much of that information. It was filtered out before it ever reached his desk... of course, if you were watching your liberal news channels, I can understand how you didn't get access to this information .

I watch some liberal and some conservative but mostly nonpartisan.
Sorry, I remembered the memo thing incorrectly.
It was actually an FBI agent that sent the memo to FBI headquarters and they ignored it or misplaced it... but there were several other instances hinting that something big was going to happen, a couple of which gave the World Trade Center as a target.

Originally posted by JavaGuy
You obviously didn't follow the 2000 election very closely. Bush won (albeit by a very small margin) in every recount they had, and the EC voted in accordance with Florida's population. Are you saying Gore got screwed because the EC didn't further disenfranchise Florida's voters?

I'm talking overall popular vote... not Florida's popular vote.
http://www.archives.gov/federal_register/electoral_college/popular_vote_2000.html
http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2000/prespop.htm
Difference in Total Popular Vote: 540,000 in favor of Gore... but Bush got the Electoral Votes and that is all that counts.

I think the voting should be done entirely by computer and they should get rid of the Electoral College.

... because that election isn't the first time it has happened.

Originally posted by JavaGuy
Or maybe they decided to recall him when he ****ed their economy in the ass for the last time by raising the vehicle tax by 300%.

Where did you see me saying that he shouldn't have been recalled?
I said that if the media didn't cover his flaws he wouldn't have been recalled in the first place... because they way you wrote it you seemed to think that his actions went unnoticed.

Originally posted by JavaGuy
And since you seem so concerned about our nation's women (judging by your Arnold S. remarks), I'm surprised you haven't mentioned Bill's numerous harrassment suits (don't worry - I'm sure they were just some of many right-winged conspiracies).

I'm sure he has sexually harrassed several women.
I never said I agreed with everything he has done... but, in my opinion, as a whole he was a better president than Bush has been so far.

Don't get me wrong. I like just about as many conservatives as I do liberals... but I'm just disgusted with how things have been handled lately.

Gallagher for President!
I think he is running on the "Sledge-O-Matic" platform.

 

[Homer]

Originally posted by liminal
The fact is the war was illegal by international law. We were not in any immanent danger from Iraq and this was known before the war began. There has been no connection made between Iraq and 9/11.

I do agree the Saddam was a terrible dictator who killed his own citizens and terrified Iraq and I won’t miss him.

So when do we start invading North Korean, Cuba, China, Many African nations…so on? They don’t have much oil, do they?...and they actually DO have weapons of mass destruction.

This slope is getting slippery.

The war was not illigal. the UN passed a resolution that we would take action at the end of a set period of time if iraq did not comply. they didnt comply, and we took action.

The UN is a pathetic waste anyway. Libya is the Chair of the UN Human Rights Body. Need I say more?

I already adressed oil in a previous post.

And as to the other nations with WMDs, The international community should take action against nations such as china, north Korea, Cuba, the Congo, etc... But probably wont. This is the great tragedy of out time. We will probably sort out most of the middle east, because it directly affects us so heavily, but we of course cant take on the whole world.

 

[Homer]

in response to parts of the post by OCybrManO

Although I think the California recall was in the best interests of the state, I still feel that they should have been stuck with Davis for a few more years. They elected him, now they should have to live with him. Now the floodgates are open, and it was foolish on the part of the California republicans to let that happen.


The 2000 popular vote: for some reason nobody ever points out that a LOT of ballots nation wide were not counted. After a state is called, and no matter where the remaining ballots go they could not change the outcome, they stop counting. Because of this most absentee ballots, and military ballots never get counted. Why do you think it took them so long to get the military ballots counted in Florida? Nobody knows who actually won that popular vote, and nobody ever will. All that Gore won was the simple majority of the votes that were counted, not the majority of all the votes.

 

[Homer]

and uhh... dont you think halflife 2 will be great! I hope they have a level with fish.

 

[Dirty_Harry]

Originally posted by JavaGuy
1. Calm down.

2. PHL is incompetently run? Little updates? No useful information? Where the hell have you been? If I recall, they were the only site that accurate predicted the 9/30 release date was going down the toilet while the rest of us (myself included) were in total denial.

I have no problem supporting Valve, but not to the point of fanboyism.

Yeah, if you look at how PHL used to be run by Jon "JEH" McClellan, and his wife LadyIce before Fragdick came back, it was respected by the community, and had useful updates. For me this has little to do with defending Valve. It is just more of Fragdick's ego-tantrum.

Yes, PHL is now incompetently run. They used to host many mapper's and map review sites. They had regular map and mod reviews, posted useful updates on important community events, etc. Some that come to mind which left or ended under Fragdick's leadership are Snarkpit.com, Lambda Maps, Weldon, DocRock, Manson, Level of the Week, etc. etc.

They used to pay attention mainly to non-counterstrike issues, since no way in hell do CS players use such an irrelevant, ad & spyware infested site. CS has always had their own sites, as it should be.

The fact of the matter is that Fragdick and Jabberblabber have HUGE egos and are EXTREMELY PISSED OFF that this much better, and much more popular HalfLife2.net site was opened, and is actively supported by Valve, and many other well connected people.

The schoolgirl flaming/sniping posts that Fragdick is doing is directly related to PHL not being invited to the party (thank God)! Certainly Valve is not an innocent party here, but if you are trying to support the HL2 community, you don't run around the forums and publish main page shit consistently, and alienate the game developers.

Valve does not owe anyone anything about HL2. It is their company. It is their game. They have their way of handling their company, and if they are more focussed on product development than posting updates on dumbass sites like PHL, that is their perogative.

HalfLife2.net seems to understand that, and as such, will replace the nearly irrelevant PHL.

If I was Sal Sluggo or some other Honcho at Lamespy, I would fire Fragdick and his sidekick JabberBlabber. They have driven a once good website into the toilet, and should be ashamed. The obviously jaded attitude that Fragdick & JabberBlabber regularly display in their posts are why PHL has become the National Lampoon of the HL Community.

 

[Razak]

Originally posted by liminal
The fact is the war was illegal by international law. We were not in any immanent danger from Iraq and this was known before the war began. There has been no connection made between Iraq and 9/11.

I do agree the Saddam was a terrible dictator who killed his own citizens and terrified Iraq and I won’t miss him.

So when do we start invading North Korean, Cuba, China, Many African nations…so on? They don’t have much oil, do they?...and they actually DO have weapons of mass destruction.

This slope is getting slippery.

Iraq doesnt have a nuke to throw at you.

Also i like homer's sig. "Life is offensive, deal with it" good stuff.

Javaguy i agree with you on most things except capital punishment and gun control.