Half Life 1 on Source Engine?

[Sparta]

I remember someone saying how cool it would be to have the first Half Life on the Source Engine, then i remember someone else replied that it could be done and WAS being done. Does anyone here know for a fact that someones doing that?
That would be the best mod

 

[Cutey_Kaite]

I know that Gabe did say that it is possible and that he would like it being done, but i dont recall anyone saying that they are working on it though...

 

[The Dark Elf]

I know that Gabe did say that it is possible and that he would like it being done, but i dont recall anyone saying that they are working on it though...

I was going to, contacted Valve and Gabe said it was in hand, or something to that effect, basically making it sound like someone is working on it, maybe them, maybe someone else. I dunno who, when, where or what it'll be like.

 

[Mountain Man]

There was supposedly some Half-Life 1 code in the stolen source code and there has been some speculation that Valve has actually already done the conversion. I'd love to see it myself.

 

[Non-Sequitur]

A Source version of Half-Life 1 and CS was released by anon shortly after the leak... It had physics and updated water effects. Being Half-Life 1, there wasn't much in the way of weaponry and level design that shows off the physics... It all just looked a little more "crisp".

It seems Valve's been working on it for a while.

 

[Kon]

I'd rather like to see it rebuilt from scratch with the source engine then just converted over ya know?

 

[Kadayi]

Yeah it would be good to see HL¹ reworked in Source. I'd also like to see DX also because that could look fantastic.

 

[The Dark Elf]

I believe the quote from Gabe was something like "it's being taken care of," but I could easily be wrong there.

Yep thats what he said.. good memory there, or did you just look for the post since I couldnt' be bothered? :E

 

[Cutey_Kaite]

hey, if half life could be converted, then wouldnt it be pretty simple to make an updated version of CS pretty easily?

 

[The Dark Elf]

A simple conversion is a girly way to do it. I'd want a full on remake that shocks everyone, or none atall. Why spoil the one real chance of doing it right with nothing more than simply adding a bit of physics and fancy looking water. I'm hoping the version Gabe hinted at is a from scratch, ground up remake, new updated models, improved scripting and set pieces, animation and locations how they were meant to be were this kind of technology available to Valve back then.

Otherwise, as I say, whats the point :\

 

[Cutey_Kaite]

i doubt that thier working on it right now, maybe when they finish with half life 2 then they can start converting half life

 

[Non-Sequitur]

I'm hoping the version Gabe hinted at is a from scratch, ground up remake, new updated models, improved scripting and set pieces, animation and locations how they were meant to be were this kind of technology available to Valve back then.

Not gonna happen.

Maybe Valve would be nice enough to let the community do the job... without a lawsuit. As it is, all we're gonna get is some physics and fancy water I'm afraid.

 

[Shuzer]

Not gonna happen.

Maybe Valve would be nice enough to let the community do the job... without a lawsuit. As it is, all we're gonna get is some physics and fancy water I'm afraid.

..and shadows! CAN'T FORGET THE SHADOWS!

 

[Jackal hit]

yeah interesting, remake the original but with updated tech... they could call it doom3 ....

*cough*...

i mean ...

 

[Triggerhappy41]

Whats the point of remaking HL1? They could spend that valuable time on TF2 or HL3 even. Let the classic be a classic.

 

[Cunni]

On the one hand, it would be cool. But on the other, I agree with letting a classic remain a classic. (That and spending time on HL3)

 

[jimbones]

Valve does hl3 gearbox or the like do hl1. Wheres the problem? Plus it's totally trendy to do a remake w/ tech update..

 

[Non-Sequitur]

Valve does hl3 gearbox or the like do hl1. Wheres the problem? Plus it's totally trendy to do a remake w/ tech update..

If Gearbox is going to do anything HL2 related, it will be original content for an addon like OpForce. I'd prefer to see new stuff rather than something I've played through several times already. :dozey:

 

[Mr. Redundant]

HL1 is already available (albeit illegally) using the source engine.
so one would speculate that its done...
especially when some of us have played through the whole game in source.
(more fun than the beta they say)
edit: However, it was merely a port.
old models sounds etc...
it had the new sound system (bullets doppler effect etc)
and the new water, new explosion effects, new physics system, ragdolls, crossbow bolts can shoot bodies into walls and they hang there (if they are close enough), bullets ricochet off of certain surfaces, (like the alien grunts upper body armor)
you can push around all the breakable boxes (physics enabled) you can pick stuff up etc.
but its still just a port.

but hey, whatta I know?

 

[The Dark Elf]

It was always led to believe that this supposed HL1 version in the stolen files was nothing more than something put in there by the twat who stole them

Frankly I can't see Valve going with something so clearly lame and half arsed when a proper version could be, well, perfect in every way, they'd be cutting off their nose to spite their face. I mean, who wouldn't pay money to play a completely remade and remodeled version of HL1 in the souce engine. Nobody though is going to want to spend money on something that sounds like it involves little more than copying files from HL1. It just doesn't make sense, and certainly doesn't sound like a company who want to make money. F*cking up a HL1 source version would be very silly, done properly they could likely net themselves an even larger fortune. Throw 70% of that back into HL3 along with the funds a publisher would add and HL3 could end up being years and years ahead of its time.. I'll see what happens, if the only version thats done is a naff job, I'll think about going back to my plans for a version (once my current mod is done) and do it how I think it should be done.

 

[Mr. Redundant]

It was always led to believe that this supposed HL1 version in the stolen files was nothing more than something put in there by the twat who stole them

Frankly I can't see Valve going with something so clearly lame and half arsed when a proper version could be, well, perfect in every way, they'd be cutting off their nose to spite their face. I mean, who wouldn't pay money to play a completely remade and remodeled version of HL1 in the souce engine. Nobody though is going to want to spend money on something that sounds like it involves little more than copying files from HL1. It just doesn't make sense, and certainly doesn't sound like a company who want to make money. F*cking up a HL1 source version would be very silly, done properly they could likely net themselves an even larger fortune. Throw 70% of that back into HL3 along with the funds a publisher would add and HL3 could end up being years and years ahead of its time.. I'll see what happens, if the only version thats done is a naff job, I'll think about going back to my plans for a version (once my current mod is done) and do it how I think it should be done.

well my speculation would be that they were intending to release it packaged with HL2, probably for free... as you said I doubt anyone would pay for a port. (when it would be simpe to do it yourself)

however you may be correct regarding the hacker just slapping it in to show how easy stuff was to port, but I have no clue.

I dont care about betas, ports, remakes, movies, screenshots or naked pics of gabe... I just wish it were released already.

 

[jimbones]

My thoughts too. But Valves motto on this (I guess) is: We release when we please.. or to please (pick one=)

 

[The Dark Elf]

My thoughts too. But Valves motto on this (I guess) is: We release when we please.. or to please (pick one=)

Which is there choice, its their product. They could choose to release it 20 years from now (they wouldn't of course) but its in the end upto them.

 

[Brian Damage]

I think that they should wait until HL3 to make a remake of HL... and then they could pakage it and all it's expansions with HL2 and 3 in an "Ulitimate Pack". Of course, I'd prefer that they signed up gearbox or a really good mod team to do it...

 

[Triggerhappy41]

Well if gearbox does the remake of HL1 that would be great, because valve could do other things, but if its already done then i guess all we have to do is wait.

 

[mrchimp]

I'v been looking around and it seams the HL1 port released by Anon was not made by him but instead was something he stole off valve along with the source code. If you look though the source code you will find a load of stuff reffering to HL1 and thats not just the updated HL1 engine code which was in there as well.

I was actually going to try downloading the HL1 port (I'm bored) but then i found out you have to download the HL2 beta as well which sucks because I don't want that anywhere near my computer.

 

[mortiz]

Imagine all the amazing effects that could be created when the reactor goes up at the start!

 

[chimpmunk]

Xen in the source!!!
OMG!!!
i'm gonna have wet dreams tonight

 

[Sandman]

I agree that it should be totally remade, but since when does valve have that kind of time? It takes a very long time to make all the content for a game! Even if they already have the engine, it'd take a horrific amount of time to build all those levels and models from scratch. Not to mention they'd probably end up updating the sounds for EVERYTHING so you'd have to go and record those, too. All of this is a pretty big job... although, I sincerely doubt that the one that's being "taken care of" is just a simple port. Otherwise, it wouldn't even be in progress. It would be done!

 

[SiNizTer]

yeah interesting, remake the original but with updated tech... they could call it doom3 ....

*cough*...

i mean ...

lol...haha too true .

 

[The Dark Elf]

If their not going to do a HL1 remake from the ground up there's bugger all point doing one atall, they'd just be wasting their time.. HL2 proves how talented they all are, it would be a kick in the balls to throw out a crappy version and assume people would want to know. It would be a very very bad choice on their part. If they knock out something vastly superior and on a level, perhaps better than HL2, they could, no WILL make a fortune, just from a remake of a six year old game. They'd be laughing all the way to the bank, but only if they do it properly. HL2 players are gonna expect HL2 quality in any HL1 version.

 

[mortiz]

They'll probably license it out to a mod-team, or another developer and call it HL 1.5 or something.

 

[slicktick]

It agree the totally redone one sounds alot better, but they wont have to redo all the models because they have already updated some of them to be in HL2 and it would be pointless in my opinion to redo them again for a redone HL1 because they should look the same

 

[Sprafa]

If their not going to do a HL1 remake from the ground up there's bugger all point doing one atall, they'd just be wasting their time.. HL2 proves how talented they all are, it would be a kick in the balls to throw out a crappy version and assume people would want to know. It would be a very very bad choice on their part. If they knock out something vastly superior and on a level, perhaps better than HL2, they could, no WILL make a fortune, just from a remake of a six year old game. They'd be laughing all the way to the bank, but only if they do it properly. HL2 players are gonna expect HL2 quality in any HL1 version.

I agree, if they make it well done, they'll be rich.

But maybe they'll just give to some other team and it becomes the new CZ

 

[HybridM]

Done right, Gabe may never _have_ to work again, bit like that other bloke...hmm...erm..what's his name? Carmichael? Tarmack? Something like that.

I'd like to play a proper remake of half-life, but I'm not sure I'd pay for it. I've done that game now.

 

[Epsi]

Lol, Gabe already never has to work again. He made his millions on stock options he got from working at Microsoft. He used some of his own personal fortune to set up Valve.

 

[Sparta]

So is anyone going to email Gabe and see if we can get some details on this?

 

[eraser]

Done right, Gabe may never _have_ to work again, bit like that other bloke...hmm...erm..what's his name? Carmichael? Tarmack? Something like that.

John Carmack .

 

[Venmoch]

I'd much rather see a port of Op4. That was much more memorable than Half-Life.

And the AI could really shine! The warehouse battle would rule!

 

[Edcrab]

Anyone remember Atomic Half-Life? I do believe it was a website ran by none other than Flayra of NS fame, tho' I'm probably mistaken. It listed many of the (frankly incredible) sounding features and environments that Valve wanted to put into Half-Life... and they didn't/couldn't, due to time and engine restrictions.

So, picture a return to Black Mesa, with a remastered cliffside scene with a 3D sky box rather than a .tga, point-per-point collision debris, new-and-improved lumbering zombies that smash through doorways and fling sparking equipment at you... as well as gravity-defying creatures that can send your own projectiles back at you, and wandering critters that physically eat corpses and would rather do so as opposed to taking you down. Surface Tension as the bombing begins, with lovingly Havok-modelled fragments cascading all around and crushing those too slow to run. The resonance cascade itself, the intro train ride in massively high detail and practically held in a single map... I'd pay for HL twice over just to see ragdoll physics appearing in it.

So, I'm looking forward to Half-Life+ ... if anything like that exists, of course.