Half Life 2 V's Far Cry V's Doom 3

[dogboy73]

Here we go again I hear you cry. Just so all the smart ar*es out there know, I did a search for this & turned up nothing with the words 'Far' or 'Cry' in the title or thread body. Far Cry being the main reason for this thread as I've just been playing it again.

I always believed that Far Cry was a great game despite it's pretty lousy mandatory alien/mutant enemies (The rather naff 'Trigens'). After playing HL2 so much over the last month I initially felt that Far Cry now felt a little sluggish in comparison. But after getting a feel for it again I started to get back into it. A few levels in & it dawned on me again what a brilliant game this is.

In many ways I still feel that Far Cry surpasses Half Life 2. Where as Half Life 2 draws you in with a believable & manipulative world, Far Cry sucks you in with engaging gameplay that at the end of the day, As far as I'm concerned, Is what it's all about. I think it's the freedom that the environments offer coupled with the excellent A.I. that makes it work so well. Your free to go at each area however you see fit - Either Rambo style assaults or stealth to move in on (Or even around) your enemies. This makes for incredibly engaging gameplay & you rarely feel like you are on rails + the replay value is astonishing!

I've just spent the last hour or so on the level before you get to the first research station. I wanted to see how many ways I could tackle the first part of this level. I used stealth one time then steamed in another. A more carefully planned attack followed. In all cases the A.I. response was very impressive & each time the gameplay was totally engaging. Much more so, I have to admit, than almost anything I saw in Half life 2. For me, Gameplay wise in comparison, Half Life 2 now feels a little lacklustre. Physics aside it's just not that engaging gameplay wise. Combat with the combine was largely dull to be honest.

I now I'm going to get shot down in flames for this & as brilliant a game I think Half Life 2 is, Far Cry just pips both Half Life 2 & Doom 3 to the post for the title of best of the next-gen (Well, Current gen now!) FPS's released so far.

 

[Kakashi]

Why do you even bother to post stupid threads like these......

 

[Dan]

Maybe that's because it's Farcry, one word.
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[dogboy73]

Why do you even bother to post stupid threads like these......

Well, That didn't take long!

Is there anything anyone can post on here anymore without it being shot down in flames within the first few replies? If you can't be arsed with it move along! I was hoping to start a bit of a discussion on the positive merits of Far Cry V's those of Half Life 2 & Doom 3. Silly me :dozey:

why did you even bother replying?

 

[The Monkey]

This is a Half-Life 2 forum. Enough said.

 

[Hectic Glenn]

Its placed in a biased forum, what do you expect...thats why these threads are considered pointless. Please try to understand that people, and refrain from making more of these.

 

[ShadowX]

Basically what was said above, you should post polls like this on general gaming forums not a Half Life 2 fan forum.

 

[Spectre01]

I might consider playing farcry if it had an quicksave option and not that homo autosave that saves every 5 minutes. Sometimes I just like charging at the enemy for fun and trying to gun them down, which results in getting me killed but I could always quick load a second before I did that and play that part normally.

 

[dogboy73]

So just because it's a HL2 forum nobodies prepared to discuss anything but Half Life 2? I am talking about HL2 but I'm comparing it to Doom 3 & Far Cry. Oh well.

 

[Absinthe]

This is like asking if SUV's are cool in an environmentalist meeting. What do you expect the general reply to be?

Any way, I thought Far Cry was a bit of an inconsistent mess.

 

[Hectic Glenn]

Post in the genral games chat forum then, which is near the bottom...then you will be happy eternally.

 

[Mo' Justice]

I thought Farcry was ok, when I first played it I thought it was pretty awesome, and it kept me captivated most of the way through, however towards the end I felt the trigen thing got a bit too much, especially the volcano part.
HL2 was great, tad boring during the long boat and buggy sections, other than that I found the whole game to be exciting.
Doom 3... I saw a friend playing it the day it came out, looked very nice until I realised that that it was just a game where things jumped out from the dark at you. Over and over. Then the muliplayer only had 4 players, that put me off.
I think with the excellent single player, pretty good multiplayer, and the promise of some great mods, HL2 gets my vote.

 

[dogboy73]

Hooray! Thank you Mo' Justice! At last a sensible reply without the bitchin' :thumbs: More of that ....... please?

 

[Mo' Justice]

Oh, I knew I forgot something. lol

I found the AI in Farcry to be quite inconsistant, sometimes they'd do some really tactical things like clever flanking, but other times I'd be able to sit in a bush, clearly able to see an enemy (so it was obvious that he should be able to see me too) and then pick people off from the cover of the bush.
The same can be said for HL2, sometimes great, but at one stage I ran up to a guy on a mounted gun while holding a barrel, and he was totally oblivous to my presence until I dropped the barrel next to him.

 

[Ames]

Oh, I knew I forgot something. lol

I found the AI in Farcry to be quite inconsistant, sometimes they'd do some really tactical things like clever flanking, but other times I'd be able to sit in a bush, clearly able to see an enemy (so it was obvious that he should be able to see me too) and then pick people off from the cover of the bush.

There were countless times where I was standing right next to a guy and he didn't attack me. Really annoying.

 

[Stigmata]

I remember the countless times when the demo crashed my computer. That is, when it wasn't running slower than a turtle with a broken leg.

I'm sure it was fun, but I really didn't care about it. Besides, Pandora Tomorrow came out around the same time.

 

[Asknoone]

Far cry, as much as i love the jungle envirmoments, has quite simply nothing on Half life 2. Call me biased, call me a fanboy.

When playing far cry, it boils down to nothing more than "walk through jungle" to "walk through base". The pace rarley changes, the levels rarley differ in comparison and after the few levels play out it really comes down to more of the same.

The story, is terrible, it doesn't draw you into the world, it's just there to give you an excuse to shoot some dumb mercs and stereotypical evil scientists.

 

[Goo3y]

What a Big Fat SpaZ!!!1!111One

 

[f|uke]

FarCry was a f'n awesome game.

I remember one area, where there were two paths high above a lake,. a bridge and a road with forklift,. after several unsuccesfull trys, I thought to myself, screw this, and jumped off the bridge something like 100 feet into the water below,. and swam to the other side! The sense of freedom just blew me away.

And while VALVe does have a thing or two to learn about level design and lush plant environments from Crytek, VALVe still pwned them on all other counts. At the end of the day, definitly HL2.

 

[HadouKen24]

FarCry was definitely a good game. My final assessment is basically like f|uke's. There were a couple times when FarCry just about blew me away. It was fun trying out all the different strategies I could use to take out all the lots and lots of enemies.

But Half-Life 2 had many, many more moments that just blew me away. And now that I've upgraded my memory, hence my graphics settings, it's blowing me away again.

 

[Person]

FarCry was alright, but HL2 is the best.

Remember the attack helicopter that prevents you from going off map? It's fake. I used god mode and noclip cheats and I couldn't hurt it and it moved insanely fast, more like an alien spaceship than a helicopter. Well, that's the same helicopter you have to fight against after you sink some boat. That was the level I gave up and started to use infinite ammo cheat. After some boring levels I started using god mode. I barely managed to complete the last level with all cheats (difficulty was set to easiest). HL2 on the other hand was rather easy and most fun. That's what really matters IMO.

 

[HadouKen24]

IMO, FarCry's difficulty is one of the things that sets it apart as a great game. Sure, it can be a little frustrating, but at least it gives you a challenge to work through. HL2, while fun, is just a bit too easy. There should be some difficulty mode that goes beyond "hard." (More like medium if you ask me...)

 

[Yombi]

Sorry, didn't like farcry that much. It was long and just got boring (maybe my attention spam is short? haha).

But really, about these post. You must know how many of these things we've seen over the past year and since hl2 came out comparing every game known to man to eachother. They generally turn into flame wars.

 

[Fleabaine]

Sorry, didn't like farcry that much. It was long and just got boring (maybe my attention spam is short? haha).QUOTE]

It sure is pal. Doom 3 does it for me. And don't try and say that just because it's a hl2 site doesn't mean you can't vote for D3.

 

[f|uke]

It sure is pal. Doom 3 does it for me. And don't try and say that just because it's a hl2 site doesn't mean you can't vote for D3.

No,. but it just makes it questionalbe as to ones motives hanging around a hl2.net site,. I'm sure theres plenty of D3 sites to go to.

 

[Thorn of Death]

Man, did you see the recent votes on gamespy?

Half-life 2 got 70% of the votes between all pc action games including doom and farcry.

 

[Fleabaine]

No,. but it just makes it questionalbe as to ones motives hanging around a hl2.net site,. I'm sure theres plenty of D3 sites to go to.

So now i'm not allowwed to go to a hl2 site because it isn't my favourite game?

 

[jondy]

Yeah, that's right.

:upstare:

But despite the rhetoric, you do have a point.

 

[Fleabaine]

Uh huh, and now we've gone off topic thanks to you know who.

 

[nutcrackr]

Maybe that's because it's Farcry, one word.
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No, actually it's not 1 word, it is most definitely 2. Far Cry, get it right please.

Anyway, I appreciate that you enjoy Far Cry more, it deserves to have many fans since I enjoyed it very much. Aside from the tremendously hard ending it may have even beaten hl2. Doom 3 is still inferior to both games but still a very good game

HL2>Far Cry>Doom 3, but all 90%+ games

 

[Cukel]

I played Doom 3 before HL2 was released, and for the start, it looked awesome. Really neat graphics and enviorment, the radio chatter in the beginning and you were really on the edge all time for some demonic thingies to jump trough the walls. And the PDA was a great invention - you could find out more about how things were before you came and such.
But in the end, Doom 3 turned out to be such repetive and boring, it was just so boring. The continous darkness depressed and made you yawn. Curses. And I bought this damn game.

For Far Cry, first impressions were confusing thanks to the intro and puking for the worst voice acting ever made. But then, when you got really into running in the jungle, boy was it intense. You really didnt want to get seen, and when you did, you ran like a maniac when bullets are flying right next to you. Graphics were stunning, ofcourse and it was a miracle to squeeze so big and detailed maps into so small loading times.
But then again, trigens, aaaargh. The stupidest, ulgiest, and most annoying enemies ever. They wouldnt die, moved like they would teleport once in a while and would strike you with their claws from 4 meters away. ARGH. It pisses me off to se such a good game to be ruined by the stupidest plot ever.
First it looked like you could take whatever route you would want, you could circle into the enemys back or just lose them in the jungle or whatever, and they really would get lost and not be able to see you 1km away through the trees and spriteful bushes. Not. There was actually about 1-4 pre-desinged routes in the maps to go, everywhere else was cliffs or water or too much supersighted enemies. Yes, they could see you trough the jungle sometimes, and when one dude sees you, so does everyone else. Sometimes they shot you trough the jungle so you wouldnt ever even see a glimpse of them. Bragh.
Not to mention throwing rocks. How did they always see where the rock came, and immediately know its the enemy? I removed Far Cry when I was about half way through the game and never touched it since.

Neither of these games has any kind of replay value or even some extra material. Ofcourse, they have mods, but mostly they are crap or otherwise just uninteresting.
But with HL2, I have played it trough 2 times + the best parts wich I have played trough countless times. Not to mention HL2DM, CSS, and the few mods they have released so far. They have kept me entertained for almost 2,5 moths now, with no day that I havent executed a Source game. If theres a game that is worth its price, its HL2.

 

[Sparta]

Far Cry was a great game
So was HL2
Doom 3 was average.

I had the most fun with HL2 even though Far Cry was more challenging. Funny how that works

 

[CREMATOR666]

In DOOM3, if you remove all the shadows, you're left with an average game with an average monster AI

 

[Smigit]

There was actually about 1-4 pre-desinged routes in the maps to go, everywhere else was cliffs or water or too much supersighted enemies.

As opposed to Hl2 which NEVER had more than one route? At least half crys areas were open, it dosnt always feel like you were on a rail but they have to limit you in some ways.

Personally I'm enjoying Far Cry alot more. I know HL2 is probably the better of the two games and its story really does own far crys which i couldnt care less about that really. Being on a older computer graphics wise both are on par since im running low detailed but theres just something about far cry thats making it funner for me. I guess I find the combat more interesting since in this game stealth is an option and the environment is different to most other fps's. Ohh and personally i really like the checkpoint saves, it adds to the tension whereoust in hl2 id just quicksave whenever i wanted, in far cry you really do have to play well to stay alive. Besides hardly ever are checkpoints that far apart anyway.

Only problem is far cry is incredibly difficult. Playing it on easy right now and its still no easy game and them tridents are a major pain at times, especially if they cant be taken down without emptying half a clip into their face which would be ok if they werent hunting in packs of 4 and moved like the wind.

but yeah in the end of the day i enjoy far cry more, even if i think when you look overall HL2 is the better made game and is still incredibly fun.

as for doom3 i got it for xmas but wont install it until i get my new comp this month, the demo chugged like mad but i enjoyed it.

ohh and for ppl that hate farcry cos u cant quicksave...im pretty sure they added a console comand so you could in a patch or at the very least there is a 3rd party patch to enable it. Might be worth looking out for if the save system stopped ppl playing the game before.

 

[Pai-Mei]

He does bring up a valid point... while Half-Life2 was great in every way possible... it was a little too linear. I would've liked to have been able to go about the same mission in different ways... like when you are trying to 'sneak' into the Combine Depot library/museum/whatever... it would've been cool if you could go in the front door guns blazing or snuck in through the air duct or something.

Although they did a good job hiding it... I still always slightly felt like I was on a predetermined path, much like HL1 obviously was. Now I know it is difficult to have different pathways in a game that requires so much processing power and data, i mean the levels between load times in Half-Life were so small, it makes you wonder how much more power it would've needed had there been no load times.

Anyway, I thoroughly enjoyed Half-Life more than Far Cry for a number of reasons. The storyline is obviously MUCH more superior, as is the digital acting and voice acting. The physics, the monsters, the locations, everything... is so much more fun than Far Cry.
In Far Cry I felt like I was blowing up a building because some guy over a radio told me to. In HL2, I felt like I was doing things to really help out the resistance and actually making a difference in the world. People relied on me, people needed me, I was a HERO! In Far Cry... I was a boat driver... a pawn... and every location was EXACTLY the same... island w/ jungle, mercs, vehicles, and a base to infiltrate/destroy. In Half-Life2 we go from apartment buildings to canals to beach to hills to prison installation to cityscape to alien installation... with no set goals other than to help out everyone as you go along and find some way to destroy the combine.

And now that I think about it, because Far Cry's mission objectives were so clear, it did it make it feel rather confined... whereas in HL, your objectives are so unclear, that they seem to be whatever I want them to be... plus, I can kill someone in MANY ways. Push a car onto them, cut them in half, snipe them, disintegrate them, light them on fire, throw a radiator at them, sic ant lions at them... oh... and shoot them.

 

[Asuka]

Half Life 2
Was best out of all. But i liked Far Cry and Doom 3 a lot. All 3 were GREAT games.

 

[taeil234]

Haven't played Far Cry. But looking at Doom 3. It was a game with EYE CANDY. It's very hard to say which grpahical engine for HL and D3 is better. Source has flexed its muscles with HL2. D3 however did not. But I can't see the blatant superiority the Source engine has. I just don't think the Doom 3 engine has been given an oppourtunity in showing what it really has to offer.

 

[Ennui]

Oh, wow! Look! Half-Life 2 is winning the poll by about 700%! Gasp! Didn't see THAT coming, not on a Half-Life 2 forum!

 

[destrukt]

doom 3 has best atmosphere.

hl2, good, nice, clean, all-round game.

far cry, fun, challenging game.

oh, and it's fun not being a fanboy, you can enjoy more than a single game.

still, the creators of threads like this should die.

 

[CREMATOR666]

DOOM3 - eye candy, scary monsters, HELL!!! OOOooOOoo :O
Far Cry - eye candy, scary mutants, TROPICAL VACATION!!! OoooOOOO :O
Half-Life2 - not THAT eye-candyinng, gasmask badasses, GMAN!!! OoOOOoo :O