HALO 2 for PC a reality.... but only on Vista

[DEATHMASTER]

def. want halo 2 for pc, might get vista if it's good atleast by the time it comes out.

 

[Captain M4d]

Buy our shit, and then we'll hand over your baby. If not...we'll throw it.

 

[Cole]

Apparently your not to bright yourself. I was using the "32-Bit" version alongside a "32-Bit" computer...

Where did I get the 706MB from? Hmm lets see maybe because the OS with the cheap game was using 706MB of ram? Stop making excuses for why it's running so bad. The dang thing has been in development for almost 5 years now. It should run better then it is. If you think it runs so good then you try it out. Then come back on here and apologize to me for not understanding that I am correct. You can do the same come December when you purchase it and it runs like poop on your computer.

lol
You have 1gig of ram.
550megs IS FREE.
450 IS BEING USED BY THE SYSTEM CACHE.
What does that leave for that program?

They are rewriting Vista from the ground up, you think writing an OS is easy? Going from the ground up? Uhh NO.
between 95 - Xp they just built on the OS.
Vista they have to write from scratch, offer more features, go up the ass on security.
Also your running 44 processes??? Whats all goin on in the background.

 

[Kschreck]

Thats what loads when Windows starts. I obviously didn't install anything and I only used the OS for about an hour before removing it. I am shocked to see so many people supporting this crap operating system. I watch my brother enjoy an OS that takes 32MBs of ram and can do all the same stuff that Vista can do. He opens up Fire Fox in less then a second and any program or window seems to do the same. Yet if we talk about that other OS we will probably get flamed wouldn't we...

Actually personally if Vista is still as bad as it is by launch I won't buy it and I will just stick to XP until it is no longer supported then I will switch to a diferent OS. Probably (Dare I Say It) Linux. I have used Linux and it is a very well done OS. Much better then Windows Vista. In fact out of the box it supports, Internet browsing, video, audio, etc. So why am I not using that over Windows? Well simply because there are still several programs that I use that are not available for Linux. Not many but still a few and because admittedly I am a bit lazy to learn a new OS. Linux is easy to install. In fact easier then Windows. The problem is I would have to learn how to install stuff. Probably not to hard but I still hate to have to relearn how to do things. For those interested you can check out some videos of what is capable in KDE for Linux here:


http://cto.secs.oakland.edu/~castro/NLD10v...VI_1949_bis.AVI

http://cto.secs.oakland.edu/~castro/NLD10v...VI_1950_bis.AVI

http://cto.secs.oakland.edu/~castro/NLD10v...VI_1951_bis.AVI

http://cto.secs.oakland.edu/~castro/NLD10v...VI_1952_bis.AVI


Heres something you do not know. Right now they are implementing something called (SHC) Self Healing Code into Linux. What is it? Say a program was to lock up, Linux will automatically fix the application without having to close or restart it. Quite simply you never notice a lockup. Oh and you never have to reboot in Linux. Not even during installation. Yes you read correct. Heres another thing you guys most likely never knew. There is something called a Linux Live CD. Essentially it's a fully fledge Linux that comes on a CD or a DVD and stick it into your drive and reboot. It loads Linux into memory and takes just about 30 seconds and then it boots into a fully working Linux desktop. Another words if you where at school and you wanted to check a video on a site that is protected by the schools nanny software you stick this disc in and within seconds it will boot into the OS and will have internet, video playback, sound, audio, etc up and ready for use. Take the disc out and it just boots into your regular Windows. Example screenshot:

Not bad for free. I would say Linux's only weekspot would be that it can not run most Windows games. However you can dual boot two operating systems. So when you start your computer it will ask you whether you want to log into Windows or Linux. You can partition the drive(s) in any size that you would like. Linux won't effect the Windows partition and visa versa. However you can access your Windows files from Linux if you wanted. Example Pic:

However this pic does not have Windows listed as it's not installed.


If anyone wants to know more about this software just ask. If anyone wants to try it out for free without having to install it you can download the CD/DVD ISO of Knoppix Linux Live CD here:


http://www.knoppix.org/ (Select Language At Top)



NOTE: Also I forgot to mention that some games do come out for Linux such as Unreal Tournament series, Quake series including Quake 4, Neverwinter Nights 1 and eventually 2 and there is emulator software that will allow games like Half-Life 2 and others to work. How about running Windows fully inside a small box while in Linux:

KDE is being redesigned and you can see some concept are here:


http://vladoboss.softver.org.mk/mg2/index.php?list=5


Linux now powers over 80% of the Internet which you can see by using this site that detects what runs what:


http://news.netcraft.com/


Even halflife2.net runs off of Linux.

 

[Dumb Dude]

This isn't that great of incentive to upgrade to vista. What is so special about this new OS anyway?

Direct X 10!

 

[destrukt]

Yet if we talk about that other OS we will probably get flamed wouldn't we...

Actually personally if Vista is still as bad as it is by launch I won't buy it and I will just stick to XP until it is no longer supported then I will switch to a diferent OS. Probably (Dare I Say It) Linux. I have used Linux and it is a very well done OS. Much better then Windows Vista. In fact out of the box it supports, Internet browsing, video, audio, etc. So why am I not using that over Windows? Well simply because there are still several programs that I use that are not available for Linux. Not many but still a few and because admittedly I am a bit lazy to learn a new OS. Linux is easy to install. In fact easier then Windows.

Heres something you do not know. Right now they are implementing something called (SHC) Self Healing Code into Linux. What is it? Say a program was to lock up, Linux will automatically fix the application without having to close or restart it. Quite simply you never notice a lockup. Oh and you never have to reboot in Linux. Not even during installation. Yes you read correct. Heres another thing you guys most likely never knew. There is something called a Linux Live CD. Essentially it's a fully fledge Linux that comes on a CD or a DVD and stick it into your drive and reboot. It loads Linux into memory and takes just about 30 seconds and then it boots into a fully working Linux desktop. Another words if you where at school and you wanted to check a video on a site that is protected by the schools nanny software you stick this disc in and within seconds it will boot into the OS and will have internet, video playback, sound, audio, etc up and ready for use. Take the disc out and it just boots into your regular Windows.

How about running Windows fully inside a small box while in Linux:

why would you get flamed ? you're being flamed for making stupid judgements on a beta.

why/how is linux (what distro ?) better then vista (which isn't even released yet, smart guy).

out of the box windows [xp] has better 'general support.'

have they a real working version of shc ? if no, it's not really worth mentioning, many companies/organisations/groups have amazing things being developed, but if there is a final product, it can be different to what was first promised.

err, live cd's are well known and you can do it with xp. you can also boot xp off a usb thumb drive like with some linux distros. the speed in which a linux live cd boots up depends on the distro and how much it 'has in it' and the computer speed, you can't just say they all boot up in 30 seconds. alot of live cd's take a few minutes because of all the work they have to do.

you also can't just easily throw in a live cd and boot it up, most computers like those at schools have restrictions on the hardware (like cd booting disabled in the bios) and you have no promises that your hardware will be supported, so getting the network working to watch some video most likely won't be worth your time.

also, linux doesn't magically bypass filters which are server side, so this 'nanny' software would still be blocking it if you were using firefox or another browser available on open source.

virtual pc's aren't unique to unix, you can do it as easily on windows or macos.

another thing, windows [98/xp/vista/others] are for general consumer use, not to be used as a server so stop mixing these 2.

Ugh. This is so stupid. It's like when people E-mailed ID to tell them that the "Demo ran poorly" when the Doom 3 Apha leaked.

and gosh, get over complaining about the vista beta already, and treating it as if it's a final product, also stop being so cynical about it.

if you want to go promote linux go do it in the hardware/software forum and use examples for current things, so none of this shc and kde 4 mockups.

 

[DEATH eVADER]

I just don't understand why Halo 2 needs Vista; if it's not graphically next-gen on release I'm going to be ****ing pissed. There's nothing in Halo 2 that can't be done on a modern PC with half its CPU behind its back

I wish I had Bill Gates email. Then I could find out his reasonings for this

 

[Gargantou]

You all seem to be so joyous over DX10..
But I ain't.. Why?
Because DX10 does NOT feature system backwardscompatability with the previous DirectXs, i.e. games will have to be software emulated, which means if you're running a game in DX9 on a DX10 computer, it'll run, but ALOT slower.
Now that ticks me off.. Why?
Because I play alot of old-school games that probably won't recieve DirectX 10 patches like say the Source Engine probably will someday.>_<

Oh well, I guess that's the price one has to give for a hugely rewritten API..*Throws away his collection of ol' flight sims and cries*

 

[DEATHMASTER]

http://bungie.com/News/TopStory.aspx?story=halo2vistaannounce&p=6136047
The bungie announcement with a bunch of unanswered FAQs.

 

[destrukt]

gosh, i guess i should try and settle this little useless panicking/complaining now.

nb: directx9 didn't have 'compatability' with dx8, they simply shipped alongside.

dx x to 9 (x being 6 or so, depending on how low they decide to go) will be supported through software emulation; quick, everyone scream, cry and panic; go !

why it won't matter . . .

- figures have been quoted at performance being slowed down 2-3% which is 'nothing' (no, i cannot 'directly' link you to this, but if you really want to find it, channel9 would be a good start).

- in 'general' games are gpu limited, not cpu (software emulation) limited, so it's becoming a 'non-issue' as in .. 'unfair' and uncalled for complaining.

should this be taken as fact ? nope, we will have to wait until vista is released before we can make final judgements, but by reading the above you can realise that it will not really be an issue, at all. also, it would be complete suicide for microsoft to not support past dx versions, or do so and having horrible performance; alot of people wouldn't upgrade to vista if their games didn't work.

 

[ríomhaire]

F*ck you Microsoft.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

Well it's not like I didn't see it coming, I mean it only took halo 1 yr to come out on pc, and its just been announced after a year of halo 2's release that it WILL come out. Microsoft just wants to make $$ like any other greedy company.

 

[Gargantou]

That's wrong DEATHMASTER, it took Halo 1 more close to two years release on the PC.
Halo 1 on the XB1 released Nov 14th 2001...
Halo 1 on the PC released Sep 30th 2003...
I'll let you do the maths..

 

[DEATHMASTER]

o, ok, thought it was 1 yr. but it's not like I was anticipating it so it certainly didn't seem long.

 

[destrukt]

Microsoft just wants to make $$ like any other greedy company.

so making money, no matter what company, is greedy ? gosh, the whole worldwide business model that has been around for the stone age is based on greed !

 

[Dekstar]

so making money, no matter what company, is greedy ? gosh, the whole worldwide business model that has been around for the stone age is based on greed !

Of course. If you don't put a markup on anything you sell you won't keep going, but it does mean you can be classed as 'greedy' for wanting more money than it took to produce at stock level.

 

[halflifeguy]

haha......and they actually expect people to buy this when its only for vista?
lmao!!!!! what a crock. Even if it was on XP i probably still wouldnt buy it. This game has no new innovations. i dont know why its such a big phenominon. Im not saying its a horrible game. im just saying it dowsnt do anything new. Now if you want a nice innovative game that has great physicis, graphics and gameplay? the why dont you take a gander at HL2......

 

[destrukt]

Of course. If you don't put a markup on anything you sell you won't keep going, but it does mean you can be classed as 'greedy' for wanting more money than it took to produce at stock level.

hah, i was just taking a stab at his [stupid] comment, i'm not going to get into a discussion about which companies are/are not greedy.

haha......and they actually expect people to buy this when its only for vista?
lmao!!!!! what a crock. Even if it was on XP i probably still wouldnt buy it. This game has no new innovations. i dont know why its such a big phenominon. Im not saying its a horrible game. im just saying it dowsnt do anything new. Now if you want a nice innovative game that has great physicis, graphics and gameplay? the why dont you take a gander at HL2......

it's not a matter of whether they think people will buy it, they know people will.

people have bought how many millions of copies of h2 on xbox ? also, there are those who missed out because they didn't know an xbox so they will be anticipating it being released on pc [vista] alot.

people on the other side say the same thing about your beloved hl2, they don't see what's so good about it and think it's overrated rubbish, but that's because you both have different likes, just like i like classy expensive euro cars, and others like old done up muscle cars, they're both cars and work, yet people on either side can't understand why the other likes what he does.

 

[halflifeguy]

true......but maybe its just because im a huge Half-life fanboy

 

[Dekstar]

hah, i was just taking a stab at his [stupid] comment, i'm not going to get into a discussion about which companies are/are not greedy.

They all are? No company sets selling prices at stock price. If they did that they wouldn't be able to increase stock. The only difference is that greed is such a loosely used term now that it's raised the bar. Now we all focus on companies like Microsoft who puts 1000% markups on their products and engineer their technology to shove out the competition and people who don't fit into their scheme. Then there's Coke, who employ child-slaves and employ the old workhouse scheme (Was extinguished with the industrial revolution IIRC), not only that but also kill off members who can potentially damage them.

see the media focuses on these people, but ultimately Microsoft have Halo - their primary owned franchise (Can't think of another Microsoft endorsed third-party product as much as bungie's Halo is), and all they're doing is making sure that people will buy their new product which they think will both benefit gamers and general computer users, and them for an increased product price and therefore markup.

 

[destrukt]

i guess you completely misunderstood what "i'm not getting into a discussion" means.

and why are you trying to convince me ? i was the one making light hearted jokes about them complaining about greed and so on, go try and convince them.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

lol, it's all greed plain and simple. Throw in a few other adjectives if you wish but that one will always be there.
BTW what was so complaining about it? it's a statement thats true, been proven as long as life has existed. Companies like MS just enhance the term to the general public's eye.

 

[Asuka]

Seriously whats with all the Vista Flame? I mean the OS looks amazing and all the new features i cant wait for. Why compare a beta to something thats coming out in a YEAR! DX10 alone is worth getting Vista for.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

Well I just hope all my CURRENT games can play smoothly on it despite all this emulation stuff.

 

[dream431ca]

Well I just hope all my CURRENT games can play smoothly on it despite all this emulation stuff.

Ya, lets hope that Windows Vista doesn't turn out like the X360, where you can only play selected games on the compatability list.

 

[Baal]

Go to hell Microsoft.

Windows XP is the best operating system I've ever had. I rarely ever have problems, for the first time ever, I've experienced Windows ME and 98 at their worst.

Whatever, all I play is WoW and I can't see that changing in the forseeable future, and my computer runs that game very well.

 

[destrukt]

do you people selectively ignore [useful] posts ?

gosh, i guess i should try and settle this little useless panicking/complaining now.

nb: directx9 didn't have 'compatability' with dx8, they simply shipped alongside.

dx x to 9 (x being 6 or so, depending on how low they decide to go) will be supported through software emulation; quick, everyone scream, cry and panic; go !

why it won't matter . . .

- figures have been quoted at performance being slowed down 2-3% which is 'nothing' (no, i cannot 'directly' link you to this, but if you really want to find it, channel9 would be a good start).

- in 'general' games are gpu limited, not cpu (software emulation) limited, so it's becoming a 'non-issue' as in .. 'unfair' and uncalled for complaining.

should this be taken as fact ? nope, we will have to wait until vista is released before we can make final judgements, but by reading the above you can realise that it will not really be an issue, at all. also, it would be complete suicide for microsoft to not support past dx versions, or do so and having horrible performance; alot of people wouldn't upgrade to vista if their games didn't work.

enough of the hating.

 

[jondy]

Go to hell Microsoft.

Windows XP is the best operating system I've ever had.

.....OK?