Have we already seen the beginning of the game?

[Spiffae]

I was just thinking...

What if the Kleiner's lab video is the beginning of the game?

I can't see any other explanation for it. First of all, the view fades in and Alyx is saying "gordon, snap out of it...you're staring at me again".

that fits with Gabe newell's assertation that the player will start somewhere and have no idea what's going on.

Gordon has no weapons. If it were a mid-game segment, there would be no reason for Alyx to give you a gun. Also, the scene fits with someone (Doug Lombardi, Gabe Newell, i don't remember) saying that you'd start off the game running, fighting, trying to get your bearings. That all seems to fit with the lab video.

I know it's unlikely, but it does make a twisted kind of sense, no?

What do you think?

 

[Estevan]

OMG YOUR RIGHT!!!!!!

 

[Yatta]

I don't think so. Alyx says "Gordon, my father was right. We should settle our losses... unless we can get this thing running we're sitting ducks." There must have been something before that to explain what she meant by settling their losses and getting this "thing" running.

 

[Estevan]

Originally posted by Yatta
I don't think so. Alyx says "Gordon, my father was right. We should settle our losses... unless we can get this thing running we're sitting ducks." There must have been something before that to explain what she meant by settling their losses and getting this "thing" running.

OMG YOUR RIGHT!!!!

 

[Spamz0r]

no cant be

there is no introduction to anynthing

it looks like a rolling story line thats well been rolling before hand?
lol

 

[Estevan]

Originally posted by Spamz0r
no cant be

there is no introduction to anynthing

it looks like a rolling story line thats well been rolling before hand?
lol

OMG YOUR RIGHT!!!!!

 

[scurvy]

omglikestfuptfo

 

[Kitarist]

haha

 

[Goombatommy]

Nevertheless, why would the first enemy in the game be a Strider?

 

[.5c0ut-WHoR3.]

Originally posted by Goombatommy
Nevertheless, why would the first enemy in the game be a Strider?

To freak you out?

 

[pixartist]

Originally posted by Goombatommy
Nevertheless, why would the first enemy in the game be a Strider?

OMG YOUR RIGHT!!!!!



















:dork:

 

[DaveKap]

Goomba, assuming it is the beginning (highly doubtful though), you probably wouldn't directly kill the strider. Alyx probably goes "no don't bother, quick follow me!"

A LOT of stuff in the demos seems to be stuff you're not supposed to completely be situated in. The strider in the last demo auto-kills you when it hits you with the blue beam (it's not a telepoter damnit!), so you probably weren't supposed to try killing that. The ant lion king kills you in that other demo pretty easily, probably weren't supposed to confront that...

The release of the game shall explain all to us!

And before Estevan can say it:

OMG YOUR RIGHT!!!!! (with bad grammar and all!)

 

[NothingMan]

Estevan is my new favorite poster.

But I think if anything, it was just a cut-scene for the demo, like DaveKap said, there are a lot of the stuff in those videos that probably wouldn't actually happen in the game. It seems like in most of the game-movie Gordon dies at the end. And I doubt it's the begining, there's a difference between starting in medias res and starting with absolutely no idea what the hell is going on...

 

[Goombatommy]

Originally posted by DaveKap
Goomba, assuming it is the beginning (highly doubtful though), you probably wouldn't directly kill the strider. Alyx probably goes "no don't bother, quick follow me!"

A LOT of stuff in the demos seems to be stuff you're not supposed to completely be situated in. The strider in the last demo auto-kills you when it hits you with the blue beam (it's not a telepoter damnit!), so you probably weren't supposed to try killing that. The ant lion king kills you in that other demo pretty easily, probably weren't supposed to confront that...

The release of the game shall explain all to us!

And before Estevan can say it:

OMG YOUR RIGHT!!!!! (with bad grammar and all!)

Yea, thats true. I guess that could be a possibility.

 

[Democritus]

I'm guessing the game will start out with some sort of orienting "ride" as it did in HL1. Perhaps an aircraft ride with the Gman sitting across from you saying "we've been rather busy in your absence, Mr. Freeman" as Gordon looks over the crazy stuff going on in City 17.

Then Alyx, the stewardess, comes up comes up and gives you one of those really small bags of peanuts and a soda. That's right before you're shot down by a strider and you crash near one of those charming European cafe's where you get to know Alyx better, and she gives you a Glock with her phone number engraven into the side to remember her by. Then you see her get into a Ferrari with Doctor Kleiner, and the doctor stares as you with menacing jealousy as he floors it. Then you realize you've got no cash, so you do a dine and dash, only to be chased down by the owners of the Cafe, who are really Combine agents. They scream "I want my two euros," start shooting, and thus it all begins. The only real gripe the Combine has with you is that you didn't pay your bill and the point of the game is to try to bum two euros off someone to make the Combine leave you alone.

 

[Kitarist]

lol

 

[LittleB]

that last one was good

 

[Typhon]

Originally posted by Spiffae
that fits with Gabe newell's assertation that the player will start somewhere and have no idea what's going on.

Originally posted by Spamz0r
no cant be

there is no introduction to anynthing

um, that would appear to be the point.

 

[6iXx]

I'm thinking that the docks movie is near the begining, thats when he gets the crowbar unless the docks takes place after he got mugged or something.

 

[el Chi]

Originally posted by Goombatommy
Nevertheless, why would the first enemy in the game be a Strider?

'zactly.
I reckon that's a fair bit into the game. Probably after your alliance with the G-Man goes arse over tit or summat like that. Something buggered up big-style which is why they're trying to escape in that scene.

Does anyone remember that promo avi they released ages back and you walked around the horsey square where Combine/Metrocops were harassing some prisoner resistance folks and there were some scanners there too? Perhaps that's near the beginning? It could explain why they don't attack you. Unless it was done for demo purposes only...

Unfounded speculation is fun!

EDIT:

Originally posted by DaveKap
The strider in the last demo auto-kills you when it hits you with the blue beam (it's not a telepoter damnit!)

Yay! Someone else understands! Give that man a medal!

 

[-Yo-]

1st weapon should be only the crow bar, then the usp match not the mp7
I guess the beginning should be before the docks

 

[Sparta]

i think you might be onto something el Chi

 

[Dilbert]

The movie where it starts off with him stood on the wooden gangway looking out to the ocean and then he turns and picks up the crowbar and kills 2 zombies will be the beginning imo ..... just feels like the beginning of the game.

 

[freddythefrog]

If there might be flashbacks during the game the theorie at the beginningof this thread could be right.

 

[el Chi]

I doubt the game's told in flash-backs...

 

[Shockwave]

they said you will lose your weapons during the game already at some point. Besides that would be the stupidest intro to a game ever

 

[dawdler]

Originally posted by Shockwave
they said you will lose your weapons during the game already at some point. Besides that would be the stupidest intro to a game ever

It isnt that stupid, if told right. There would need to be a real intro before it, quite long to explain stuff. But I doubt we get to greet Alyx in this way, it would be to simple

I'm still betting the boat to City-17 is the start. There he can have his flashbacks and extensive training before even setting foot in City-17.

 

[Frank]

Originally posted by -Yo-
1st weapon should be only the crow bar, then the usp match not the mp7
I guess the beginning should be before the docks

Did you ever consider that that exact scene was made for the tech_demo? Yes, the actual place may take place in the game but they could have changed this scene to make it an intro-has-never-seen-half-life2-before thing.

 

[el Chi]

I doubt there'd be flash-backs - they'd be kinda lame and not in keeping with the whole: You are always Gordon seeing what Gordon sees, knowing what Gordon knows.
A boat into City 17? P'raps... But why use a boat when you can telepotrt there?:naughty:

 

[pixartist]

none of the known maps is out of the game...they where all e3 maps

 

[Kitarist]

hm

 

[DaLys]

Originally posted by Sauerkraut
none of the known maps is out of the game...they where all e3 maps

Gabe said the opposite.

 

[Kitarist]

who has right now

 

[BritSavant]

Originally posted by Spamz0r
no cant be

there is no introduction to anynthing

it looks like a rolling story line thats well been rolling before hand?
lol

Ever seen Fight Club?

I rest my case...

 

[wowyouareacow]

Its obvius that the maps will be in the game but I think the zombie behavior were all setups

 

[ChiZm]

i remember something about the game beginning with a prison breakout, but thats just me i guess

 

[Quotidian---]

me to, i heard its somethign like you start in prison..

 

[Iconoclast]

Well, if you "heard" it starts in a prison then you must be right.

 

[Wheresthenoose?]

firstly i just wanna say that Davekap guy has the coolest little picture A-insert the rest of the word thing here- thing. Its cool....

It would be good to see an orientated ride like the others. It gives it a lot of character... especially a new awe inspiring graphical fantastical explosion of goodness and other cool stuff. yup. And the moment we get the crowbar better be an awsome one too.... and the manipulator. And when we first play it. Hope i dont get nervous weeing...

 

[Mountain Man]

Originally posted by 6iXx
I'm thinking that the docks movie is near the begining, thats when he gets the crowbar unless the docks takes place after he got mugged or something.

I'm convinced the docks video was just a tech demo to show off the water. I remember seeing another video a while ago where Gordon was in the same location but with a shotgun instead where he managed to shoot a thrown barrel out of mid-air.

Besides, after five years, you'd think Valve could come up with something more engrossing than some boring dock with a couple of zombies on it.