Heroes season 3

Jesus ****, dead to me. Everything past season one doesn't exist.
 
I might be slowpoking, but did anyone else notice:

The two people with the power to absorb others' powers: Peter Petrelli and Sylar, aka Gabriel Gray.

Peter and Gabriel.

Peter Gabriel.
 
Darkside55 said:
I might be slowpoking, but did anyone else notice:

The two people with the power to absorb others' powers: Peter Petrelli and Sylar, aka Gabriel Gray.

Peter and Gabriel.

Peter Gabriel.
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The singer?

I didn't notice it, but I have now noticed that both their names are alliterations. /face meets palm
 
The show has started to turn into a contemporary Bioshock. Wheres the Big Daddy and Little Sister?
 
FishBulb said:
Oh ffs, so now
Sylar is the half brother of Nathan and Peter?
Christ, this really is a soap opera. :rolleyes:
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It means that mommy is a whore, Also I think that mo will be a lizard man. The spikes groing out of his back
 
FishBulb said:
The singer?

I didn't notice it, but I have now noticed that both their names are alliterations. /face meets palm
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Like Peter Parker, Bruce Banner, Clark Kent, Lois Lane, Lex Luthor, Lana Lang, Reed Richards etc. etc. etc.

It's tradition!
 
thenerdguy said:
It means that mommy is a whore, Also I think that mo will be a lizard man. The spikes groing out of his back
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If they who a whole Doc Conners thing I'm gonna be even more goddamn pissed off
 
It's still alliterative when spoken.
 
I just saw ep 3.

Man, this is starting to get lame. Clair is completly useless... Sure shes hot but still, ****ing waste of time.

Also, what happend to the black girl? ****ing bitch to leave that machine talking kid alone at his mothers wake after she ****ing (apparently?) died saving her sorry ass.

The only plot I thought might be intressting was the new villain group, but that was shut down pretty quickly. I had a completly different thought when they said the black guy gains strength from fear.
He just gets strong. Like Nicky, but useless, if he should meet someone who doesn't shit his/her pants when seeing a black guy.

Also, fast girl and Hiro plot is rediculess! Hiro is worhless. Good thing he got locked up in lvl 5. Hopefully he stays there.
 
Rizzo89 said:
The only plot I thought might be intressting was the new villain group, but that was shut down pretty quickly. I had a completly different thought when they said the black guy gains strength from fear.
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DL was a thief... the Haitian is a memory erasing religious nut... and now they have a big black guy who gains strength from fear? What on earth?
 
They should just make the entire show about HRG and Sylar.

Also I thought the guy who gains power from fear was actually pretty creative. Think about it, walks into say a massively crowded place like Times Square, fires off a few rounds and you'd have to imagine he'd be indestructible.

Too bad they went nowhere with that.
 
Jintor said:
DL was a thief... the Haitian is a memory erasing religious nut... and now they have a big black guy who gains strength from fear? What on earth?
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Not sure where you get that the Haitian was religious?

Last night's sucked. The Sylar/Bennett bit was interesting, but even that felt a bit weak. I liked Black Fear guy, but, as mentioned, he didn't go very far. Punching a ****ing hole through the guy INTO the metal thing behind him was pretty awesome though.

And, as already mentioned, basically every sideplot going on is complete and utter bs.
 
Yorick said:
Not sure where you get that the Haitian was religious?
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Refused to let Mohinder cure him on the grounds that God wanted him to get the mystery disease.
 
I'm rewatching Season One (got the DVDs). Good times.

This is so tense.
 
Yeah, enjoy why it while it lasts.
The next 2 seasons are so unbelievably out there, it's like the writers completely forgot what they were writing about.
 
Season One is structured so awesomely, so efficiently, and the Claire/Zach dynamic is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better than that stupid Claire/West dynamic. **** that shit.

Sylar was much creepier when I didn't know shit about him. But Hiro/Charlie was awesome! AWESOME! AWESOME!

I remember why I had such hope now, rewatching season one. Shit is so tight.

Peter always holds the idiot ball.
 
what is heroes about.i heard it is more than just stranded on a island
 
Heroes is about super heroes in the real world.
You're thinking of Lost.

Also, I agree... Sylar was much MUCH better when we never really saw him or got a good look at him.
 
I just started watching it. Breezed through every episode, thanks to Netflix. Love the characters. Although, 'the save world from a bleak future" is getting rather old. Zachary Quinto (Sylar) is probably going to leave the show in the near future. So why not introduce new super powered villains that last longer than an episode? Killing a character without bringing them back wouldn't hurt either.
 
Just saw the new Episode.. And i must say it restored a bit of my faith in the series. Love what they have done to Peter ;)

Hope it will continue like that :)
 
Good episode. I love the fact that they are turning some of the good guys into bad ones and vice versa.
My only question is:Why does Future Peter always have a scar even though they have changed the future countless of times?
 
This episode has confirmed the fear I did not want to admit:

Heroes is now irredeemable. Shit sux, and sux terribly. You know believe it or not I really enjoyed the second season; I liked the plot arc and the character development, as well as the new characters introduced. So when I started watching season 3, I didn't want to admit it sucked. I only have about two shows at any given time that I'm committed to watching, and I just couldn't bear the thought of a good series like Heroes going to crap.

But holy shit, that episode suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked. Broke my heart. I'm still going to watch it, but I'm not even interested in knowing what happens anymore.
 
I already removed this shit from my TiVO recording list.

I don't even care enough to waste 42 minutes watching this crap.
 
So, let me see if I understand Season 3 correctly.
Or: "What the goddamn f***?"

I'm spoiler tagging this, though I'm not sure why, since I'm sure most people who visit this thread have already seen the show.

1. Hiro becomes CEO of his father's company - despite having previously given it to his sister to run while he pursued his "journey". He accidentally loses half of a chemical formula (which we're lead to believe gives people powers). A girl who moves super quick (somehow fast enough that when Hiro stops time, she can stand still and interact with him) steals the formula. When he finds out that she's doing it for money, he seems surprised, but BEING THE CEO OF A HUGE COMPANY IN JAPAN, DOESN'T OFFER HER A BETTER DEAL. He also catches a glimpse of the future in which Ando has a power (go figure) and kills him. Instead of going back into the future to figure out WHY, he whines and tries to push Ando away. Which, yeah, that'll make him less likely to kill you.

2. Mohinder finds out that the way abilities work is through the adrenal gland. Which... of course, makes zero sense, because people can use powers in spite of it or regardless. Candice used hers all the time. Micah can too. So in typical Mohinder style, he goes from "let's cure people" to "I could give EVERYONE powers" in about a quarter of a second. No other person can be so easily ****ing swayed. Oh, and then he turns himself into a cockroach.

3. Claire decides to shoot Future Peter. In the face. Despite his numerous powers. Despite not having the Haitian around. She corrects this later, by bringing the Haitian along, and showing what an awful shot she is. But still. It's like. Hello. You know you need more than a handgun to take him down. She later ****s this up again when she goes against Peter and Sylar, the two MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE ****ING WORLD, with the fast chick and the guy who makes people piss their pants, and then drinks it for strength (or something like that). Could you have possibly brought anyone more useless?

4. Sylar finally catches up with Claire (uh, how exactly?) and rapes her brain. While not killing her (what the hell happened to the 'save the cheerleader' thing if she's incapable of ever dying? oh, and it seems okay for Sylar to have her power NOW, but two years ago it was the worst thing ****ing ever) he seems to have crippled her ability to feel pain... Which makes zero sense as well. I mean, if she felt pain before, wouldn't she have shown it when, you know, she awoke on an autopsy table or put her goddamn hand in a garbage disposal?

5. Sylar explains his power as having the "hunger". What he's hungry for, we don't know, since he doesn't eat brains. But when Peter takes Future-Sylar's power (WHY?!) we see that the "hunger" seems to just plain make him want to kill (starting with Future-Nathan). Also what was up with Gabriel having a son named Noah, and living in Claire's house? That was interesting. Oh, and if I didn't mention already, Sylar and Peter and Nathan are apparently all brothers. I forget if Angela Petrelli explains WHY she gave up Sylar, but the fact that he's obviously the middle child makes it interesting.

6. Meanwhile Nathan has survived an assassination attempt from Future-Peter with the help of Linderman. Now Linderman's not really back from the dead, he exists in a way that only Nathan can see him. And he's urging Nathan to become President, which we established ALREADY was a terrible idea. Oh, and despite being a figment of Nathan's imagination, he can somehow heal Nathan. Cause...yeah... that makes total sense. And Nathan's new assistant is the actress who played Nikki. And we find out that she's part of a triplet that were genetically ****ed with by the company. That's super. Because this character will be a lot better than her last one, who was arguably the worst the show ever had to offer.

7. So now that the "bad guys" (whoever the **** they are) have the entire formula, the only solution is to bring back another lousy character, Adam. Because releasing one villain to fight the other villains makes perfect sense. Especially when it's the one who tried to, you know, release a plague.

Did I miss anything? Oh wait.

- Apparently in the future, Molly lives with Parkman and Speed Chick, who are evidently married and have another kid... Where the hell has Molly been during all this? She's obviously not with Parkman, who is stranded in Africa, and she's not with Mohinder, who is busy irritating his neighbors and ****ing Maya.

- Micah and his cousin seems to be a completely dropped subplot, though I'm sure (grimace) we'll see them again.

- Little Noah and Daddy Gabriel in the future, living in the Bennett Household. I swear to God, if they find some way to make it so that Claire's father goes through some "kid again" thing, I'll burn down the studio.

- Peter has a scar in every instance of the future, despite a) he can heal b) claire's blood (which it's assumed is his power now too) can bring someone back to life hours after damage (autopsy, noah bennett). Even Nathan (and Peter) ended up with no scars after the entire Nuclear thing.

- Peter goes back in time to kill Nathan to stop him from telling everyone about the powers thing. And, having this whole wide range of powers, he decides the best thing to do is let time keep moving, and shoot him with a gun, in the middle of the press conference. Really? Plus, you know, mind-reading/controlling ability. Um. Just tell him not to do it.

Okay I think I got them all now.

This show seems to take the occasional good idea, and good character, and take them in a completely different direction then you'd have expected, for pure "shock" value. It's like the Shyamalan style of writing. And it's not good writing.
 
I believe that Mohinder is a
spider, not a roach, but I could be wrong. Spider-Mohinder is a hilarious thought though.

Gentlemen, this show is beyond terrible. Only three seasons in and its hit terrible writing that has plagued the comic book industry for so long. They have effectively thrown out good sense and gone for nearly every contrived comic book plot there is.

Goodguys becoming "deep" and "troubled" badguys; badguys getting redeemed into goodguys and finding something to live for only to have it taken away (sorry Gabriel); the long-lost relative, the "three brothers with the most awesome powers" thing (here's looking at you, Cyclops, Havoc, and Vulcan); fucking CLONES because apparently the writers of Heroes didn't realize that there was a reason Stan Lee issued a public apology about the Spider-Man Clone Saga; the "everyone can have powers" scenario; characters who want to get rid of their powers because they fear they are a danger to others...the list goes on.

So what can we do about Heroes? Well I propose a few things:

Proposition #1 - Introduce this man to the writing team.

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Joe Quesada, a man hated among all good, comic-loving folk, has one redeemable quality, and that is the ability to return everything to state zero. Marvel's editor in chief, the man responsible for literally erasing twenty years of Spider-Man history, he can return Heroes back to a point where none of this bullshit ever happened. Now, while that doesn't guarantee that the show's mistakes will be fixed, it returns everything to the status quo.

Proposition #2 - We tell Superboy Prime that the Heroes universe is responsible for the demise of Earth Prime. When this happens, Superboy Prime will punch the fabric of the universe so hard it will shatter the Heroes universe, allowing it to be mended.

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Proposition #3 - WE HIT THE GODDAMNED BUTTON.

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I decided to try watching the new episode to see if I would like the series, got sick of Peter talking in his faux raspy bad-boy voice in about a minute :|
 
Darkside55 said:
I believe that Mohinder is a
spider, not a roach, but I could be wrong. Spider-Mohinder is a hilarious thought though.
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I do not agree sir.

I thought the spider thing originally, but in last night's episode he made a noise like a roach, and his "skin" as seen in the future seem to fit it more than spider. There was also a roach seen on his tape recorder.

I saw someone say somewhere, though I didn't look into it, that it was more Kafka-esque this way, and that Mohinder had actually somewhere in Season 1(?) said that God is a cockroach. Being able to give everyone powers, now, he's a bit like "God" in a way. Or, as they said, the 'anti-christ'.

It just seems to flow better, I think.

also your solutions were very lol inducing.
 
Godzilla!Mohinder.

Honestly. The best way for me to deal with this is to remember that everything after Season One never happened.

I ****ing love the premise of Heroes, but jesus. The writing went to shit. I think they had really thought about the whole Season one thing really well first and everything after that was "Make it up on the fly and hope it sticks, and if it doesn't - TIME TRAVEL"
 
I think you might be right, Yorick. The hissing, also maybe he was wearing the hood in the future to shield his eyes from the light as much as conceal how he looks.

You know, I once got bitten by a hissing roach. Thing was the size of my open palm.

Didn't get any superpowers from it though, just a swollen eyebrow.
 
Darkside55 said:
I think you might be right, Yorick. The hissing, also maybe he was wearing the hood in the future to shield his eyes from the light as much as conceal how he looks.

You know, I once got bitten by a hissing roach. Thing was the size of my open palm.

Didn't get any superpowers from it though, just a swollen eyebrow.
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If at first you don't succeed...
 
I still maintain that the "bomb" should've gone off and killed millions of people in S1, throwing the show into a darker setting after establishing the lead cast where it would be much more unpredictable and not so, "Zomg, the world is going to end....again!"
 
Like Future-Sylar said, "The world is always going to need saving."
 
Emporius said:
I decided to try watching the new episode to see if I would like the series, got sick of Peter talking in his faux raspy bad-boy voice in about a minute :|
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This. Christ, ****ing this. I could barely get past the double whammy that was the scene of Peter and future-Peter #2 talking.

Yorick said:
I do not agree sir.

I thought the spider thing originally, but in last night's episode he made a noise like a roach, and his "skin" as seen in the future seem to fit it more than spider. There was also a roach seen on his tape recorder.

I saw someone say somewhere, though I didn't look into it, that it was more Kafka-esque this way, and that Mohinder had actually somewhere in Season 1(?) said that God is a cockroach. Being able to give everyone powers, now, he's a bit like "God" in a way. Or, as they said, the 'anti-christ'.

It just seems to flow better, I think.
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Huh, I was thinking Mohinder was
more of a snake -- molting skin, crawling (slithering?) across the floor and the rattling noise. But I like your idea of him being a cockroach better. And yeah, he mentions the God/cockroach theory in his very first scene, I believe.
 
Everyone knows Mohinder is a god damn

Fly. **** if they're going to rip off the movie everytime mohinder pops up on screen they might as well reveal hes a giant ****ing fly
 
Adrik_Senturu said:
Everyone knows Mohinder is a god damn

Fly. **** if they're going to rip off the movie everytime mohinder pops up on screen they might as well reveal hes a giant ****ing fly
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There's no evidence of that.

He hasn't been seen flying. The 'scales' on his back have no basis for being wings. His eyes haven't compounded either, if you want to get super technical. His ability to move like he was, have super strength, and be able to climb walls does not fit with being a fly, either. Roach makes a lot more sense, and fits with his character more.
 
I am raging so hard right now.

Hiro would never do that to Ando. NEVER. This is bullshit.
 
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