Historic Return for NI assembly

[Bob_Marley]

It does, because they created the state so they are responsible for what it did.

I would point out that there are other examples of British troops being deployed to protect self ruling areas (or even entirely indipendent nations), for example in Brunei. The Core of thier defence is the 1st battalion of the Gurkah Rifles, yet what goes on there is not dictated by the British Government.

Forces Resposible for defence =/= The government of the region.

 

[Solaris]

The British did put pressure on the NI government to reform, when it failed to do so, the british intervened and dissolved Stormount. The PIRA ironically only became active when the British government involved itself in NI affairs to sort out the sectarianism.



There was never any justification for any of the violence, it should have been political from the start (which was certainly possible atleast as early as 1973), the SDLP are a nationalist party which seek a united Ireland, through exclusively peaceful and democractic means since the 60's, the issue hasn't gone political it always has been.

They wouldn't have made any impact politically, they didn't have the support.

I would point out that there are other examples of British troops being deployed to protect self ruling areas (or even entirely indipendent nations), for example in Brunei. The Core of thier defence is the 1st battalion of the Gurkah Rifles, yet what goes on there is not dictated by the British Government.

Forces Resposible for defence =/= The government of the region.

The British government split NI from the rest of Ireland, they created the state and ripped Ireland apart and built a state built on sectarianism and terror. They were responsible for that.

 

[Mr Stabby]

They wouldn't have made any impact politically, they didn't have the support.

Sunningdale, Belfast agreement, Council of Ireland, Anglo-Irish agreement, all heavily involved the SDLP. The IRA achieved nothing constructive.

The British government split NI from the rest of Ireland, they created the state and ripped Ireland apart and built a state built on sectarianism and terror. They were responsible for that.

NI was still autonomous. Sure NI was institutionally sectarian but it was not a 'state built on terror', you seem to think NI was as bad as a communist country. It was certainly never bad enough to justify the PIRA

 

[Solaris]

NI was still autonomous. Sure NI was institutionally sectarian but it was not a 'state built on terror', you seem to think NI was as bad as a communist country. It was certainly never bad enough to justify the PIRA

It most certainly was, things like internment, bloody sunday, police collusion with loyalist mobs to name but a few.

 

[Mr Stabby]

It most certainly was, things like internment, bloody sunday, police collusion with loyalist mobs to name but a few.

All during the troubles when the British were involved.

 

[Solaris]

All during the troubles when the British were involved.

I wasn't aware the PIRA were very active before that?

 

[Mr Stabby]

I wasn't aware the PIRA were very active before that?

They weren't.

 

[Solaris]

They weren't.

So whats your point then.

 

[Mr Stabby]

So whats your point then.

That the troubles and the NI state 1921-1968 are seperate.