How good can HL2 be if it's a year late?

[Roland Deschain]

Don't get me wrong, if there was ever a videogame I enjoyed more than the original Half Life it must have been Zelda 64 ; suffice it to say, I love Half Life to death.

But it's one year late and after FarCry how good can it really be, both graphicwise and gameplay (I'm still not sure how good the mod community is going to turn out).

I mean, I've played both Havoc engine games, Max Payne 2 and Pain Killer, and they pale in comparison to Far Cry. Now is it that nobody has as of yet fully takes advantage of Havoc (it was build for Half Life 2, I know), or can we expect graphics that are a year out of date.

Just shooting the shit and wondering what other people think.

 

[Edcrab]

It'll be as good as HL2 would've been a year early, but with a year of extra additions and polishing... I'd presume.

 

[gooball]

Half Life 1 was delayed an entire year too.

blah blah blah, same or so 10 topics.

edit: sorry lazicsavo if that sounded rude, that may have been my first post like that. But since it's your first post, and you're probably new to reading the boards, i'll just mention that topics like this come up all the time. no big deal, and by the way, Welcome to the forums!

 

[Headwires]

only time will tell :/ damn delays

 

[Wsh]

Far Cry is great graphically but the rest of the game is quite "default" already. HL2 will go much deeper in physics and gameplay and it will "bend" more.. I mean: FarCry was over after you beat it once. There were only a few fun scenes which you wanted to play again but that's it. That kind of jungle-multiplayer isn't very "in" today either. Obviously we don't know about the HL2 singleplayer experience that much yet but I assure you that HL2 will live longer in terms of gameplay and re-playability (=upcoming mods).

 

[STELTH]

I agree. FarCry, while it had beautiful graphics (except the shiny models), was rather dull. Nothing was too exciting, the story was almost non-existant and I never once cared for Jack or anyone else. Was it still good? Yes, but Half-Life 2 is going to be way more immersive and have a better story and so on... A year late means nothing. Stories never get old.

 

[FoB_Ed]

Now is it that nobody has as of yet fully takes advantage of Havoc (it was build for Half Life 2, I know), or can we expect graphics that are a year out of date.

Psi-Ops did, and I must say it's one of the funnest games I've ever played.

 

[Crusader]

Well... I expect to be playing HL2 for a good 3 years at least, so it being a year late doesn't make any odds, because it still would have been the best game in 2004, even if it was released in 2003. Plus now they have an extra year's work on it.

and after FarCry how good can it really be

HAHAHahahaa

Yeah, how good can it be compared to a vaguely playable tech demo with cartoon graphics. I mean it. Really. Far Cry is better than Half-Life 2 could ever be.

HAHAHAhaha damn... I couldn't keep a straight face saying that

Half-Life 2 = a must buy. Far-Cry = it's been out for a while now but I haven't felt like buying it since I played the demo. I'd sooner just look at my money til HL2 comes out.

Doom 3 is the only real contender to HL2, and personally I think HL2 will be better than that, too. But only time will tell...

One thing I can say though, is that if HL2 is only as good (good..lol) as Far-Cry, I will be very... VERY disappointed...

 

[Roland Deschain]

Lol, fast replies, what about requirements, are we expecting some steep shit like Far Cry (I'm not talking about minimum, I'm talking about the requirements necessary for reflections, antilasing, and bitmapping)

 

[Crusader]

I think HL2 will be better optimised than Far-Cry. I dunno if it's less intensive than the demo I played, but the resources required did not seem to correspond with the game I was playing. With a bit of luck valve will have done a better job coding HL2, and will run nice and smoothly.

That is what I am hoping for anyway :/

 

[blahblahblah]

lazicsavo - I've take it you've never played a Blizzard game. They are always delayed and are almost always graphical dated, but they have some of the greatest gameplay that you will ever experience. I'm sure the same is with Valve.

Anyways, in the year that has passed only one good FPS has come out (Far Cry). I still don't see how you can call it dated when nothing else has come out to make it dated.

 

[SFLUFAN]

Oh I'll be the advocate's devil (heheheh) and say that I really really did enjoy Far Cray (cheesy 80s low-budget movie story and all) and hope that they do make a sequel to it. It was also a great game to show off my new monster (at that time) rig.

Having said that, I agree that the game had very little in the way of replayability.

 

[lans]

Lol, fast replies, what about requirements, are we expecting some steep shit like Far Cry (I'm not talking about minimum, I'm talking about the requirements necessary for reflections, antilasing, and bitmapping)

HL 2 is a very optimized game - valve is making sure of that. Far cry on the other hand needs a "bad ass" computer for full eye candy. Unfortunately still not many people can afford the "badass" comps so far cry hasn't sold as many copies as we would have thought.

 

[Shuzer]

Lol, fast replies, what about requirements, are we expecting some steep shit like Far Cry (I'm not talking about minimum, I'm talking about the requirements necessary for reflections, antilasing, and bitmapping)

HL2's not as graphically intensive as it stands as FC (or, so it appears). I suspect it'll run alot better than FC at max settings on a well equipped machine

 

[lans]

lazicsavo - I've take it you've never played a Blizzard game. They are always delayed and are almost always graphical dated, but they have some of the greatest gameplay that you will ever experience. I'm sure the same is with Valve.

Anyways, in the year that has passed only one good FPS has come out (Far Cry). I still don't see how you can call it dated when nothing else has come out to make it dated.

You are right.

Why do people just look at FPS for graphics? I mean look at Prince of persia 2, jade empire, brothers in arms and Ut 2004. These games have so-so graphics, yet it's their gameplay. Remember people, Gameplay >>>>>> graphics.

 

[Crusader]

Far Cray

lol, "Far Cray: Return of the Shrimp"

*looks around*

Well I thought it was funny

Edit: Btw do you people really think Far-Cry looks better than HL2?

I just don't see it myself

I sure wish more people would go for realism over just making everything shiny.. I think we'd be much further advanced along the road to photo-realism if that were the case

 

[Shuzer]

lol, "Far Cray: Return of the Shrimp"

*looks around*

Well I thought it was funny

Mildly funny

 

[Headwires]

i'm goin to buy woteva comes out first, if its doom3 then i'll prob buy CSS off steam rather than HL2. shit happens

 

[Dr. Freeman]

well i don't know how much they take into account merc's word as he did get to playtest HL2 and all.. but he gave me the feeling HL2 will right up there as one of the top games

aside from his word.. i guess we will have to see

 

[Roland Deschain]

Well, I never could bring myself to download the stolen beta version of Half Life 2 (both for moral reasons and I didn't want to spoil the game), but what I heard is that it runs rather reasonably. All I know is that I can run Far Cry maxed out at 50 fps, and hope that HL2 can be equally forgiving with the requirements.

 

[Rocketman9mm]

You're argument isn't making a lot of sense. You're basing your argument on just comparing it to other games, not if it is going to be a good game on its own. And you make it seem like "a year late" will hurt the game developmentally? you must be kidding or not meaning this. The extra time has only helped the game be better. And who here HONESTLY really thought the game would ship Sept 30 03? Now we are going to have a more polished HL2 plus all the previous official games going Source. Just because other games have great visuals does not mean HL2's will now suck...they will be great too. Not that visuals was ever the half-life series' selling point... the games were great for the story, atmosphere that pulled the gamer into the HL world and the amazing support of multiplayer by both valve and the community. I think this tradition will carry on with HL2 so there is nothing to worry about.

oh, and "Fary Cray" that got a good chuckle out of me lol.

 

[Striker]

im still gona like HL2 no mater what.. The game play will kick rear!!

 

[StardogChampion]

Don't get me wrong, if there was ever a videogame I enjoyed more than the original Half Life it must have been Zelda 64 ; suffice it to say, I love Half Life to death.

But it's one year late and after FarCry how good can it really be, both graphicwise and gameplay (I'm still not sure how good the mod community is going to turn out).

I mean, I've played both Havoc engine games, Max Payne 2 and Pain Killer, and they pale in comparison to Far Cry. Now is it that nobody has as of yet fully takes advantage of Havoc (it was build for Half Life 2, I know), or can we expect graphics that are a year out of date.

Just shooting the shit and wondering what other people think.

It's funny how you're talking about Far Cry as if it's some brilliant FPS... the fact is that it isn't, and if you think it is, then be prepared for HL2 to BLOW YOU AWAY.

The only problem I see with HL2's graphics, is that lightmaps are sooooooooo last year :farmer:

 

[Striker]

Amen to that! HL2 OWNS JOO!!

 

[Max_Payne]

hl2, halo 2, and doom 3 , well to put it simply will be the best FPS toever come out in history.. hands down. (dont get me wrong castle wolfenstein was great!)

As for farcry... the game was fun... graphics were amazing... but once i beat it... i was like... whoaa ... what a boring game. so i traded back to EB and got metal slug three... heh.

PEACE

Wolvie :cheers:

 

[Ahnteis]

Q: How good can HL2 be if it's a year late?
A: Really, really good.

 

[Crusader]

Q: How good can HL2 be if it's a year late?
A: Better than if it wasn't.

 

[wayne white]

theres only 2 games that can touch hl2 this year,and im not talking about graphics:stalker and vampire:the masquerade.

 

[Synthaxx R-or]

theres only 2 games that can touch hl2 this year,and im not talking about graphics:stalker and vampire:the masquerade.

Vampire runs on source, so duh! :cheers:

 

[Foxtrot]

Don't get me wrong, if there was ever a videogame I enjoyed more than the original Half Life it must have been Zelda 64 ; suffice it to say, I love Half Life to death.

But it's one year late and after FarCry how good can it really be, both graphicwise and gameplay (I'm still not sure how good the mod community is going to turn out).

I mean, I've played both Havoc engine games, Max Payne 2 and Pain Killer, and they pale in comparison to Far Cry. Now is it that nobody has as of yet fully takes advantage of Havoc (it was build for Half Life 2, I know), or can we expect graphics that are a year out of date.

Just shooting the shit and wondering what other people think.

Well if you base the game on graphics then it will still kick ass but not as much as it would have a year ago. If you base the game on its story and gameplay then it will kick ass as much is it would have last year or in 10 years.

 

[Chadda]

"How good can HL2 be if it's a year late?"

Pretty f@rking good.

 

[vicefredav444]

they delayed Goldeneye for a month and people were pissed, but it paid off. I think a year for valve will make a huge difference. Also, I agree with you about Zelda64, can't wait for the next one.

 

[Alec_85]

Wow... A whole month...

 

[ailevation]

Delayed the game to ensure the story was good, that gameplay matched the story, then everything else such as physics, graphics.

Take a look at FarCry, dope graphics, physics was cool... but the story sucked dookie. I've had FarCry for about 4 months, and I still haven't beaten it. Not because I haven't anytime, because the games gameplay gets boring and the story isn't even interesting.

 

[Agent.M]

HL2+TF2 (together or not) good, thats how good it can be!!! :cheers:

 

[tokin]

Including TF2 would be wise, from all of the crap that has happened that is a likely move valve will do to suprise and excite us all.

 

[RogueShadow]

But it's one year late and after FarCry how good can it really be, both graphicwise and gameplay (I'm still not sure how good the mod community is going to turn out).

It's going to be a whole lot better than it would be if it wasn't a year late.

I tried the painkiller demo. They decided to avoid being called a lame doom clone... by stating they are a tribute to classic games...

the game isn't great, but I did like the physics even if it had nothing to do with the gameplay.

add:

eh, did I say not great? The game is just lame.

 

[tron]

if TF2 came out alongside HL2, even if I had to pay extra, the 3-day-long orgasm would be more than worth it.

 

[Cybernoid]

Don't get me wrong, if there was ever a videogame I enjoyed more than the original Half Life it must have been Zelda 64 ; suffice it to say, I love Half Life to death.

But it's one year late and after FarCry how good can it really be, both graphicwise and gameplay (I'm still not sure how good the mod community is going to turn out).

I mean, I've played both Havoc engine games, Max Payne 2 and Pain Killer, and they pale in comparison to Far Cry. Now is it that nobody has as of yet fully takes advantage of Havoc (it was build for Half Life 2, I know), or can we expect graphics that are a year out of date.

Just shooting the shit and wondering what other people think.

Ah. The mandatory and weekly "ok guys what if HL2 like u know sux " thread. I don't understand the fuzz over Far Cry. Aside from the plant life and the water, I didn't see anything that special about the graphics. As for physics, I didn't see any. Just some ragdolls and flying crates.

 

[Brian Damage]

I'll put my view this way:

A while ago, before Far Cry was out, there was a poll on a FC fansite. The poll asked something like, "Which next-gen game are you waiting for the most?"...

The poll results were visualised as a bar chart.

All the other game's bars were afraid of the Half Life 2 bar. It was a giant bar.

True story. And that's how I feel about what Half Life 2 will be like.