how much time does it take to get really good at CS?

[Lou]

I picked up CS last fall but I never really get into it because I didn't want to sacrifice my studies. Then I picked it up again late last year and I have been playing almost every day ever since. I have improved to the extent that people no longer call me a n00b and that I usually break even at the end of each round. Sometimes I suck so bad it's depressing. Sure, it could be that in some servers the opponents are tougher, or it could mean that I am just not making any progress. I don't know what I can do to be better at this game. Perhaps my hand/eye coordination is not very good, or perhaps I am just not paying enough attention to the environment, although I try to use the radar as much as possible, I check behind doors, etc... I usually get pings in the 35-50 range so I can't blame the lag on my lack of success. But I don't lose faith that there could still be some hope left for me. Is there such thing as CS training school?

 

[Laivasse]

I have been playing for years, since 1.4 or thereabouts, and I still frequently end up with scores that make me want to cry, so don't count on ever being one of those guys with a 50/1 ratio.

Servers can make a difference. I play on the UKTrainingCamp servers and every now and again there's be some skilled players turning up and making it a real challenge (ie. suckfest for me). Either that or retards will stack to CT and you'll be on a poor T team trying to fight against the odds, which is just as hard. But then I might switch servers and the opponents will be so poor that it doesn't even feel like it's a proper game.

Physical comfort, like your keyboard and mouse setup etc, as well as the type of mouse you use will probably also make a big difference to those split second moments when you have to aim well, quickly. I wouldn't know though, because I use a 6 year old ps/2 mouse on a bit of cardboard, and a keyboard that needs to be hit with a hammer to register strokes.

Above all, just try not to worry about your score. Don't pay any attention to rank whores who stack to the winning team and check out their ranking every time they die. Kill ratio doesn't take into account the fact that you might be on an outnumbered team, with very little money, on a biased map. In such a situation it takes as much skill to kill 1:1 on the losing team as it might do to get 2:1 on the other one. Also, a person who kills noone but buys enough time for his team to get the bomb down or for it to go off, is actually more useful than someone who chickens out at spawn, hangs around until he's the last person alive on his team, kills 4 enemies then dies.

 

[Parlez]

I use to play CS on the old Xbox (Yeh I know the graphics suck) any who I played it online for almost a year and I was awsome on it.... Just stick with the M4 w/ silencer and you will get very very good.

 

[Lou]

I have been playing for years, since 1.4 or thereabouts, and I still frequently end up with scores that make me want to cry, so don't count on ever being one of those guys with a 50/1 ratio.

Like everything in life. It's like playing baseball in high school and then counting on making it to the major leagues after graduation. For every guy who makes it, there are 10,000 other guys who tried and couldn't make it. Parents should teach kids early on in life that just working hard isn't everything there is to success, otherwise they are just setting them up for great disappointments later on in life. But I still would like to be a better player. No, I won't be half as good as fatal1ty, but if I normally end up with a 2:1 ratio, I think I'd be happy

 

[Spectre01]

Well recently I've started whoring flashbangs and improved my gameplay quite a bit.

 

[Parlez]

I go right for the smoke and creep around. Then when the smoke starts to ware off throw a flashbang and fire at will!

 

[Destroyer.Sam]

17 hours multiplied by the theoretical probability of Fe + CuSO4 -> FeSO4 + Cu

 

[Lou]

17 hours multiplied by the theoretical probability of Fe + CuSO4 -> FeSO4 + Cu

Why did you get banned? Oh wait... you can't answer now. lol

 

[coLE']

Like everything in life. It's like playing baseball in high school and then counting on making it to the major leagues after graduation. For every guy who makes it, there are 10,000 other guys who tried and couldn't make it. Parents should teach kids early on in life that just working hard isn't everything there is to success, otherwise they are just setting them up for great disappointments later on in life. But I still would like to be a better player. No, I won't be half as good as fatal1ty, but if I normally end up with a 2:1 ratio, I think I'd be happy

Yeap - practice, practice makes perfect :smoking:

 

[sup2069]

I've been playing since 1.0. I just kept playing and playing regardless of how bad I sucked. When I got bored of waiting for rounds to end, I would just play TFC or HLDM. Just don’t think about it but have fun with it, soon you wont realize how much skill you have gained.

 

[CookieCuttah]

As funny as it sounds I actually went through the sucky period when I was a kid. Back then anyone could own me, but due to the fact that I started really early (Gaming at like 6 and fps at 9) I got pretty good and now reap the rewards of regular 2:1 and 3:1 scores = D.

 

[basnerd]

Hey man I just started playing the game aorund a week ago. I have gotten really good because I played with good people and when I killed them I got a little better. I also play at cs_ office the most and I know the enviroment really good know and I use my rader barely. Stick with the m4 carbine or the bullpip. Those guns are on the ct team. If your on the t team the in suggest the c4-47. Also for a pistol use the dual .45 elite or the 50. calliber night hawk gun. And when you see a person, fire like hell. Also under options make your crosshair the smallest and then aim at the head for a quick, bloddy kill.

 

[Kalasri]

Using nades tactically can give you a huge boost, and continunally planning enemy's next move and stragezing with it will get you decent scores.
My Advice for 1337scores(and I mean 40+)
Get armor, get nades, use nades.
Also aim for the head and always be the first to rush in. I see lots of ppl who hang on and clean up after all their teammates die and enemies become low hp, sure you will get sum kills, but u will know that u have no skills (hehe it rhymes)
Well not all maps will be good on this but using this i got 58-2 on piranesi, thats right piranesi!

 

[Drackard]

If you wanna be pro in an hour play source if you want a real challenge with decent competition come play 1.6

 

[Dekstar]

If you wanna be pro in an hour play source if you want a real challenge with decent competition come play 1.6

Hmm that's weird, because being 'pr0' usually means that you own everyone. But OH WAIT! If everyone's pr0, then, by definition, no one's pr0.

So I'll fix your quote Drac:

If you wanna hear people bitching about poor reg and the awesomeness of 1.6, then play source. If you want to hear people bitching about hackers and the shittyness of 1.6, then play 1.6.

 

[Exclamatio]

I've been playing since 1.0. I just kept playing and playing regardless of how bad I sucked. When I got bored of waiting for rounds to end, I would just play TFC or HLDM. Just don’t think about it but have fun with it, soon you wont realize how much skill you have gained.

aye dont play for skill to start cos it aint gonna happen

all games should be played for fun!
too many people miss this out, mostly the french i feel.

 

[Cobra_UK]

CS is like chess + art of war. The rules are simple but the possibilities are infinite.

Don't worry about being accused of stat whoring, camping, using noob weapons and all that crap. That's just a bunch players that take the game far to seriously, live and breathe CS, have no life, and can't take loosing without throwing a tantrum.

Learn at your own pace and play how you feel comfortable. Make sure your PC is running at it's best and you have an IR mouse and comfortable keyboard. It's more important to have good FPS rather than GFX.

Most importantly, it's a game. Don't take it too seriously, your studies are far more important.

 

[Lou]

CS is like chess + art of war. The rules are simple but the possibilities are infinite.

Don't worry about being accused of stat whoring, camping, using noob weapons and all that crap. That's just a bunch players that take the game far to seriously, live and breathe CS, have no life, and can't take loosing without throwing a tantrum.

Learn at your own pace and play how you feel comfortable. Make sure your PC is running at it's best and you have an IR mouse and comfortable keyboard. It's more important to have good FPS rather than GFX.

Most importantly, it's a game. Don't take it too seriously, your studies are far more important.

This thread has been very....inspirational.
Last night I ended up with a 3:2 ratio

 

[Drackard]

lol Dek, check the steam stats for players ... last time i checked more people were on 1.6 then source

 

[Exclamatio]

Most importantly, it's a game. Don't take it too seriously, your studies are far more important.

you assume all gamers are in school?

 

[Cobra_UK]

You assume all gamers are in school?

The post was addressed to Lou, not to all games. He was talking about studying. He wrote the thread, he was asking the question.

And you're the one doing the assuming, obviously.

 

[Lou]

And why did you assume I was at school? Unless by 'studies' you meant getting off my ass and start learning how to make a mod


It's funny that you mention it. When I was at school there was this Asian kid who literally played CS all day. He didn't even go to class. The poor bastard ended up withdrawing from school at the end of the first term

 

[dys4iK]

If you want to get good at CS, and FPS games in general, you need to start learning about fire and movement. This means knowing how to move from cover to cover, how to keep your exposure time low, how to quickly scan for threats and know when to back off.

Some people can get a headshot every time, but stick many of them in any game that simulates firearms properly and they go down hard. I recommend mastering the basics and not relying on headshots. Don't master CS--master infantry tactics.

 

[Lou]

and how can I learn those? where are the tutorials?

 

[Yellonet]

Depends I guess. Some people will never be REALLY good... some might play for a few weeks and beat most people. Just like with everything, it's individual.

 

[Yellonet]

and how can I learn those? where are the tutorials?

You just play and watch how the other do things... just play and you will get better.

 

[Lou]

The other day I started following this guy with a 179/32 ratio (something like that) ..but he got pissed off after a while. The bastard flashed me and I lost him

 

[Cobra_UK]

I picked up CS last fall but I never really get into it because I didn't want to sacrifice my studies.

You mentioned your studies in your first post, that's all. I was working with that. I didn't assume you to be in school. You could study anything, colledge, university, training, etc. I meant nothing more by it.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

I know CS:CZ deleted scenes has a little tutorial thing.

 

[BrimStone04]

Steps to get good that i have learned in all my years of CS (since the week of the first beta)
1. Constantly adjust ur mouse sensitiivty till u feel the one that suits u best, dont just stick to defualt.
2. pick a pistol and only use that pistol for a period of maybe 2 weeks of playing. Most people use deagle, i prefer the USP cuz i think the weakness of it compared to the deagle is overshadowed by the amount of ammo it has. As bset as u can, do single shots and go for the head. Work on what i call "flick shots" meaning dont sit there and take ur sweet time and aim at their head while ur geting shot. Peek and point and shoot as fast as u can near their head, then hide, and repeat the process.
3. Then i suggest doing the same thing with the smg/rifle after getting comfortable with the pistol.
4. The AWP is ur best friend in the game of CS. Ignore anyone who says otherwise, it is the single best gun u can get good at in CS. If u can master the AWP, u can learn to rush with it as well as do its main purpose which is sit back and wait for them to come to u.
5. Always buy nades if u can, HE/flash/smoke. If i could afford a rifle and ammo but no nades i would prolly save for the next round.
6. Play each map religiously, dont just stick to one map. U gotta learn all of em, their hidding spots, their chokepoints, everything.

These tips ive learned in my years through CAL and lots and lots of playing. Its not always TIME that u need to get good. some people jus thave the talent from the get go, good luck

 

[Lou]

I only play dust, dust2, and office. Everything else is crap

Thanks for your advice though

 

[UltimaApocalypse]

Not to brag, but I used to be tournament/Scrim CS material. But I stopped playing because being called things liked M4 Whore or Hacker didn't really add fun to the game.

In my opinion, there are more noobs in Source. Source is such an easy game to good at, I have trouble getting good with the tactics I use. Dust for some reason screws up my eyesight.

So anyways now I've stopped playing, and have lost some of my skill. I do play however when I go with my friends to the local cyberlounge on the weekends, where they all team up against me and lose.

I'd be playing Half Life 2 DM, but all Half Life games are referred to as "A game for the biggest ******s" by everyone in Foster City.

 

[Irish_Hawk]

I have been playing cs for 7 years, only in year 6 did I get good at it.
That does not mean it will take you 6 years, everyone is diffrent, you just have to keep practising

 

[someone402]

I have been playing CS:source for about a month, and i've gotten A LOT better. at first i played with friends, then others. usually, i'm #1 on my team. I find that auto shotgun and awp are easy kills, so most of the time i dont use them. I make a rule that if someone uses awp, i use auto shotgun, which i own everyone with. for t i like the galil. for ct i like silenced mac, m16, and sometimes famas. if u are extremely accurate, ak is also good. p90 is another favorite. i used to think i sucked with pistols, but yesterday i had a pistols only game and OWNED with every pistol except the usp (i was a ct). what helps me a lot is knowing the level.

 

[HunteRKilleR]

1-3 hours a day for 2 years

 

[0mar]

It takes several years to get even decent at Counter-Strike (to the point where you'd be on a team).

 

[Dekstar]

It takes several years to get even decent at Counter-Strike (to the point where you'd be on a team).

way I see it, best way to get good is be IN a team.
I couldn't have gotten to my current skill without being in Hl2.net|clan.

 

[Jack_Karverboy]

Well I've been playing for 3 or 4 years and I'm still not the best there is at the game, but I'm pretty good most of the time

 

[nutcrackr]

I have to agree with years, it takes a while to perfect your game. However you can be good in a few months with regular play.

Few minutes with hax olololol

 

[socK]

Got the HL pack along with Doom3 when it came out, never played any game before. :| Needless to say, I finished HL in a few sittings then went to CS. Got wrecked. Few days later had my first good run with the Galil. Sorta picked it up in about a week, was able to stand my own. CSS beta came out, played an assload. Now like a year and a half from then, i've beaten pretty much everybody i've played, I cant remember the last time I wasnt first in a pub. If anybody wants to play, send me a PM.

My tip?

SOUND IS YOUR BEST FRIEND DEAR GOD USE IT. Listen for footsteps and listen well.

Spraying, can be good in alot of situations. Keep in mind when you're spraying like a nut with an AK or M4, your shots will be OVER your crosshair. Drag the crosshair to near their feet to have your shots land in the chest area.

Small crosshair helped mentally, I worried less about it being closed and not still retracting.

HIGHJUMP LAFFO. Crouch THEN jump while your screen is going down, you go higher while doing this. You can get on peoples heads while they are standing and with some clever thinking, get into all sorts of strange spots nobody ever thinks of.(especially on aztec)

Finally, sound sound holy shit sound, seriously, keep it cranked and listen. Wait behind a wall where you know people will come. Wait for them to get close and run out pre-fireing. Unless by some act of god or your aim is that bad, you'll kill them. Play more careful than agressive, and do, practice with the AWP.


I just pick games up fast I guess.