how would there be room for an expansion after half life 2?

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Sir Arj

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the portal wallace uses is interstellar, so the energy behind it was dark energy. mind you, we've seen the potency of such energy from our souped up gravity gun. when it malfunctions and implodes, a blast should've killed Alyx and Gordon (if he's going to be in it). and another thing, if the Gman had the power to completely freeze time and still allow movement for a specific purpose, i.e. gordon, then he should've done that in the first place to destroy the combine while they were still frozen.

dark energy explosions accomodating survivors, gman's hidden powers..this game needs more than raising the bar to explain these tidbits.

normally, i wouldn't complain, but given intelligent scripting--Yau-Caribou? and the ability to explain it, as well? jeez--i find it difficult to leave these tribulations alone.
 
i htink the halflife3 shuld give yo umore bullets for your smg




So, wait what?
 
You're not supposed to leave them alone - they are left open to pique your curiosity, make the game more interesting, and leave room for potential sequels (much like chapters in a book).
 
like chapters in a book?

at least in a cryptic chapter of a book, subsequent chapters address puzzling elements to better create the environment the reader can immerse himself into
 
It has been said by other posters that he did not slow down time, just Gordon's perception of time (which makes sense, seeing that you could still move). So he couldn't have killed the Combine since it would take him half a year to actually get out of the Citadel and do anything.
 
The most likely theory is this:

The G-Man did not slow down time, but merely slowed down Gordon's perception of time to deliver the following important message: "There have been many offers for your services. Normally I wouldn't consider them, but these are extroadinary times. Thus, I'm whoring you out. Your employer has changed. Sorry, I can't explain. Later!"

The Dark Energy reactor is going critical but the explosion at the end of HL2 is not actually fatal. At the most, it severely injures both Gordon and Alyx and knocks them off their feet, perhaps falling deep into the citadel. At the least, it'll give them a bit of a jolt and have them sprawling on the floor. Unfortunately, the Citadel is now counting down to total meltdown. Considering the crazy energies involved, it should be quite spectacular.

(To be honest, I have no idea how such an explosion would have so little effect, but hey - it's beyond our puny human meatbag physics, so you never know...)

Gordon's employer has changed, at least for now, but we don't yet know who. I'm of the opinion that it's likely to be the rebels themselves - though what they'd pay the G-Man with I have no idea - contracting Gordon to, basically, do his stuff for them. But we just don't know, because in a universe as huge and varied as the Half-Life one, where myriad interdimensional powers beyond human comprehension vie for domination, it could quite literally be anybody.

Your first job, it's assumed, is to get as many rebels as possible (plus yourself, Alyx, Eli, Mossman, Barney, Kleiner) out of City-17 before the Citadel blows. Unfortunately, the Citadel both provided power to protection systems and acted as the biggest thumper ever. Kept the antlions and the zombies out of City-17, co-ordinated everything - with the whole structure shaking with multiple detonations (some defying conventional physics) the Combine's grip on the entire city is lessening as they struggle to evacuate their troops and dangerous wildlife pours in from the surrounding countryside.

As for the G-Man, we simply don't know. His powers are technology-based, we assume. Maybe he's the equivalent of a bounty hunter, a mercenary who takes on jobs using captured heroes he keeps on ice. Maybe he's a weapons dealer, and his 'weapons' consist of aforesaid heroes. Maybe he represents the shadow government of an intergalactic power that wishes to see the Combine destroyed. Perhaps he's God and perhaps the Combine are from Hell. Perhaps he's Gordon from the future. All right, maybe not the last one.

EDIT: Yeah, that's a load of shit you didn't ask on top of the stuff you did ask for. But pfft!
 
Sulkdodds said:
The most likely theory is this:
(To be honest, I have no idea how such an explosion would have so little effect, but hey - it's beyond our puny human meatbag physics, so you never know...)
Well, it's a reactor innit? The combine have forcefields do they not? Couldn't the reactor have erected a protective forcefield around the chamber that reached to the platform they were standing on? Maybe? Possibly? Conceivably? Alright I'll be quiet now...
 
Gordon's employer has changed, at least for now, but we don't yet know who. I'm of the opinion that it's likely to be the rebels themselves - though what they'd pay the G-Man with I have no idea - contracting Gordon to, basically, do his stuff for them. But we just don't know, because in a universe as huge and varied as the Half-Life one, where myriad interdimensional powers beyond human comprehension vie for domination, it could quite literally be anybody.


And i just thought Gordan was the right person at the right time!
jes, i think i have missed some things in HL2.
I guess it is time to play it again and again.:D
:cheers:
 
There was a lot of debate at one point, mostly because people thought an expansion directly after such a dramatic closure would totally undo the work it did. But if anyone can pull it off, Valve can!

Anyway Sulk, unknown employer? Fool! It's blatantly obvious that Gordon's been hired by Maintonon.

...what do you mean, it's not canon?

What, not even the talking lobsters?? Noooo!
 
Keep in mind, that citadel was one in one city. There are multiple citadels in multiple cities, and they only took down one. That doesn't destroy the Combine, it just starts a revolution on a larger scale - one which can still be put down. For all we know, Breen was just the administrator of City 17, rather than the world. As for how Alex and Gordon survived (and obviously, we know they do..), we'll just have to wait and see. :)
 
froghawk said:
Keep in mind, that citadel was one in one city. There are multiple citadels in multiple cities, and they only took down one. That doesn't destroy the Combine, it just starts a revolution on a larger scale - one which can still be put down. For all we know, Breen was just the administrator of City 17, rather than the world. As for how Alex and Gordon survived (and obviously, we know they do..), we'll just have to wait and see. :)

Breen is very much so the adminisrator of earth. That much is a 100% positive.
We don't actually have proof of there being citadels in other cities. Yeah, Raising the bar said there were more but, that same sequence included the air exchange. We simply don't know.
Of course, even if you took down the other cities (which, there are more of), thats only the Combines presence on earth (not speaking literally, as there aren't any actual combine on earth)...there is still an alien race full, in another universe.
 
Sir Arj said:
and another thing, if the Gman had the power to completely freeze time and still allow movement for a specific purpose, i.e. gordon, then he should've done that in the first place to destroy the combine while they were still frozen.

You must remember, gman does not care for any of these things, he is only being paid for letting gordon do the services, gman is not involved.
 
"in the citadel so thoughtfully provided by our benefactors" -Dr.Breen

Notice, "CITA-DEL" SINGULARY...ONE..ONE AND ONLY...

so all that crap about several Citadels is just fake...

if it where more citadels he would have said:

"in the citaDELS so thoughtfully provided by our benefactors"
 
Ravioli said:
"in the citadel so thoughtfully provided by our benefactors" -Dr.Breen

Notice, "CITA-DEL" SINGULARY...ONE..ONE AND ONLY...

so all that crap about several Citadels is just fake...

if it where more citadels he would have said:

"in the citaDELS so thoughtfully provided by our benefactors"

.....You amaze me with your idiocy Ravioli. You always have.
 
I live in the house so thoughtfully provided by my parents.

However, my dad owns several other flats.
 
Samon said:
.....You amaze me with your idiocy Ravioli. You always have.


Watch out, i might stab you with my Katana (sp?) :hmph:

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but lets all be friends: (it says "cant we all be friends" in swedish :stare: )

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(pictures taken by me for Swedish PCGF...where im also known as Strogg...):smoking:

Now on topic: ...what where we talking about again?
 
ktimekiller said:
and that has to do with this subject how sulkdoods? :p
He obviously elected to make a post here, in the thread so thoughtfully provided by sir Arj.

BTW Ravioli, I didn't know you were Strogg. What do ya know...
 
Sulkdodds said:
The Dark Energy reactor is going critical but the explosion at the end of HL2 is not actually fatal. At the most, it severely injures both Gordon and Alyx and knocks them off their feet, perhaps falling deep into the citadel. At the least, it'll give them a bit of a jolt and have them sprawling on the floor. Unfortunately, the Citadel is now counting down to total meltdown. Considering the crazy energies involved, it should be quite spectacular.
People always focus on the reactor exploding (well, why wouldn't you?) but miss the other part that is likely to kill Gordon and Alyx, unless something exceptional happens.

The top of the combine citadel is a 3-pronged triangle affair. Gordon and Alyx are standing on one edge between two of the prongs, directly facing the center of the triangle and the reactor. This means they are also directly opposite the final point/corner of the triangle. If you play the game and watch as the reactor explodes, the other column of the citadel starts falling down towards Gordon and Alyx. Then the Gman slows time (or whatever).

If he hadn't, Gordon and Alyx would (presumably) be hit by both the explosion, and the final spire squishing them to red goo.

So, if for some reason they do survive the explosion, you still have to consider the massive hulk of combine tower that is going to fall directly on their heads, or at least very close to where they are standing.

This leads me to believe that their only escape is teleportation away from the top of the citadel, because even if the explosion turned out to be small, or contrained by some force fields or some-such, they're still going to get squashed by a massive chunk of metal that is going to fall on their heads.

I welcome any other possibilities for their survival, but I think it's pretty hard to come up with a plausible solution that saves them both from the explosion and the falling combine tower, other than teleportation.
 
It is most likely that there is only One Citadel. Now, there are also *most likely* other cities. Dialogue between other citizens mentions a "City 14" and signs list "C17, C14, etc."

But, Breen mentions he has moved his offices to City 17, and this could possibly mean that C17 is the larlgest/most important city.

Thus, in destroying the Citadel, the Combine take a major hit. We do not know the full extent to their powers, but you can assume they will be greatly effected by the Citadel being destroyed.

So, I would say they are hit hard by the events, but the Combine will still put up a strong fight.
 
Nova Prospekt showed indicators of some of the same production scale
and earth moving/restructuring technology that existed around and under
the Citadel in City 17. It seems likely that the other "Cities" are similarly
equipped.
 
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