Hundreds dead in Indian terrorist attack

_Z_Ryuken said:
I think it has more to do with our disassociation with those people/events. I don't know them. I don't care. "This age" is more sensitive to stuff like this if anything at all. Some people are very sensitive, some are not.
Hundreds died? Yeah that sucks for some people. I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it. It's illogical to worry about it until it hits home. It may or may not. Life's short enough as it is and if you are gonna die early, don't waste it worrying.

My point here is I don't think we should blame apathy on desensitization through culture. Desensitization is what keeps doctors good at their job.
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You are so horribly wrong. The reason you don't know them or don't care is because thats what you choose to do. You choose to do this because you are desensitized through the culture and media you have been brought up in.

With all the technological advancments that this age brings, the divisions that time and space put between people are becoming non existant, so you now have the ability to develop relations with events and people all over the world. However, theres so much bad shit in the world, and thats all we ever see in the media, we adapt to it by becoming apathetic and desensitized. In away, this apathy and desensitization is great for the people in power, because when people are like this, they don't care that wrong things are happening in the world and do nothing to change the way things are.
 
>>FrEnZy<< said:
The reason you don't know them or don't care is because thats what you choose to do. You choose to do this because you are desensitized through the culture and media you have been brought up in.
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"You're responsible for your own actions.

PS: Actually, no, blame society!"
 
423. Mumbai bombing (7/25/06)

Mumbai bombing decision was made in a hurry. Feds even hadn't had the time to prepare a story. In 911 attack, within three days, they showed public a passport, said it was Atta's passport found in WTC ruins. And gave people a "19 hijackers story". Similar story happened in Madrid bombing. That was a "cellular phone" conveniently left over by the perpetrators. And British government almost immediately released the photo of London bombing suspects. Because these bombings were well planned in advance, include scapegoat. Of course these scapegoat couldn't tell the truth. They were all set up to death.

The only arrest connected to Mombai bombing was made 10 days later. One was arrested in Kenya and three in India on 7/21. But no evidence has been publicly produced to support the government's claim.

Mumbai bombing was organized by US intelligence to justify a planned San Jose area bombing, I allege.

1. It was done by experts or "special force". Eight bombs exploded in seven train stations in 15 minutes span. It was obviously a team work. Indian authorities said most likely the military-style plastic explosives and timer were used.

2. White-collar workers targeted. "The bombers systematically chose first-class men's compartments, poking a finger in the eye of the city's white-collar establishment." (Mercury News, 7/12/06) Who are white-collar workers? If you remember in recent off shoring jobs, most are the IT workers, software engineering which created a grown up group of high tech. white collars in India.

3. Bay area connection. San Jose area, known as Silicon Valley, is a high tech. area where IT industry, software engineering concentrated. Many technicians, engineers are from India. In TV report, an Indian lady said her friend died in bombing had met her just two months ago when she visited Mumbai. In article, "Bay Area relatives condemn attack and its effect on Kashmir conflict", it said the bombing "sent many Bay Area Indo-Americans to the unsettling task of tracking by phone family and friends living in that bustling city."

4. Motive. India arrested 3 suspects. The police investigators, K.P. Raghuvanshi said, "They have connections with groups in Nepal and Bangladesh, which are directly or indirectly connected to Pakistan." For Indian, it was the only motive they could think of. No others than Pakistan would do it. They can never dream of US intelligence having the motive too.

When Feds moved in a lot of Indians to my residential area for the poison projection,; when I went back to the tram after six months abandoning of public transit on 7/9; Feds had a swift response. Mumbai bombing of 7/11 would justify a San Jose bombing. In which Indians would have died, Pakistanis would have been "suicide bombers". All Feds had to do was sent several Indian and Pakistani informants to the tram, and detonate the bomb, then said this was the victim and that was the bomber, who could argue with them?

I would say Feds have prepared a "Pakistanis terror cell" in Bay area. Who would have played a role in Assem Hammoud's "California bombing". (NYC tunnel plot) And later would have been used to play a role in "(Mumbai like) Bay Area bombing."

This is probably why there was no evident suspect in Mumbai bombing. They planned to link it with the core bombing ( Bay Area). They couldn't let it out earlier because otherwise there would be no chance to carry out the Bay Area bombing. (A revealed plot is a dead plot)
 
428. Liquid explosive and warning of "India bombing" (8/15/06)

Liquid explosive bombing is not newly invented. There was a "Bojinka" plot which said that Al Qaida prepared to use liquid explosive to bomb 11 US air-liners over the Pacific Ocean in 1995 .

The question is why Al Qaida hadn't carry out "Bojinka" then or since but delayed it until 11 years later? Why US intelligence didn't ban liquid in carry on luggage in 1995 but now make a fuss?

Because the biggest mind behind Al Qaida is the Inside Group. You can see so said "Al Qaida attack" all benefit to the ruling class, from motives to timing. "911 attack" justified for the Mid-east war by Bush. "Bali bombing and French tank bombing" aimed to push Australia and France to support Iraq war. "Madrid bombing" aimed to help in election. "London bombing" was used to justify a coming "terror attack in US on 9/24/05". What advantage did Al Qaida gain from these bombings? None. Except a self humiliation that Islamic are savage. (or anyone can tell me some advantage Al Qaida gain from these bombings?)

Banning the liquid luggage is a deliberate. The more inconvenience travelers have, the more hatred they have on Al Qaida. People will believe it all caused by Al Qaida when there is a new attack happens in US. It's a psychological operation - a pre planted mind.

Another psyop purpose is to demonize Pakistani. The arrested 2 dozen suspects in this case are Pakistanis (or ethnic Pakistan). In message "423. Mumbai bombing (7/25/06)" I concluded that there is a "Pakistanis terror cell" in Bay area, and the core one of coming US bombing will be in California (especially in San Jose) related to Mumbai bombing.

The World Journal on 8/11 reported, "New target, New Deli and Mumbai" said, The US Embassy in New Delhi warned Americans that foreigners, possibly linked to Al Qaida, were planning a series of bomb attacks in these two big cities.

The two cases in continuing two days may prove my two conclusions in message #423: a Mumbai related bombing attack will happen in Bay Area. The "terrorists" are Pakistanis.
 
645. Tomatoes "not a fruit" (8/17/06)

Fruity tomatoe is not newly invented. There was a tomatoe-like confection since milleniums.

The question is why tomatoe is a fruit then but is a vegetable today? Why is tomatoe sold in vegetable aisle?

Because the biggest mind behind Tomatoe is the Inside Group. You can see so said "Tomatoe" all benefit to the ruling class, from deliciousness to expensivity. "Tomatoe" justified for the French-Fry Catsup by Heinz/MacDonald/Burgers King. "Tomatoe" aimed to push KentuckyFC and Wendy's to support Heinz Catsup. "Catsup" aimed to help in eliminating poutine. "Poutine" was used to justify a "comedy about french-canadian gravy & cheese topping". What advantage did Poutine gain from the tomatoe? None. Except a self humiliation that french-canadian are savage. (or anyone can tell me some advantage poutine gain from these fruity condiments?)

Mocking the liquid gravy-cheese topping is a deliberate. The more fake-fruity sauce customer consume, the more hatred they have on cheese & gravy topping. People will believe it all caused by fruit when there is a new tomatoe sauces happens in US. It's a psychological operation - a pre planted vegetable.

Another tomatoe purpose is to bolster detergent. The TIDE soap eliminate 2 dozen stains in this case are tomatoe catsup (or tomatoe chili sauce). In message "423. 51 Varieties of Terror (7/25/06)" I concluded that there is a "Heinz special catsup" in upcoming product, and the debut advertisement of coming special tomatoe catsup will be in California (especially in San Jose) related to Genetic Engineered Flavour Tomatoe.

The World Journal on 8/11 reported, "Genetically Modified Tomatoe" said, tastey tomatoe companies, possibly linked to Heinz, were planning a series of Tomatoes which are NOT A FRUIT.

The two cases in continuing two days may prove my two conclusions in message #423: a Tomatoes Catsup of superior standing is forthcoming. Also that these will be staining shirt.

The "tomatoes" are vegetables.
 
Ome_Vince said:
/sarcasm
I guess the Americans created these terrorists aswell :)
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426. Feds, the real terrorist (8/10/06)

On 7/5, I wrote "418. Native terrorist group (7/5/2006)", alleged the Feds created that terror cell. The article of New York Daily News next day proved my opinion is very correct.

Quote, "Terror crew urged to hit FBI's bldgs.
BY JONATHAN LEMIRE DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

An FBI informant urged seven terror suspects to target FBI offices throughout the country - including one in New York - and even helped the men scout the buildings, law enforcement sources told the Daily News yesterday.

The suspects, who also allegedly schemed to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago, were denied bond in a Miami federal court yesterday as sources shed light on the FBI effort to ensnare them.

Last December, the FBI arranged for an undercover informant posing as an Al Qaeda terrorist to meet with alleged ringleader Narseal Batiste, who authorities say had already recruited six men to help bring down the landmark 110-story Chicago office tower.

But in March, in an effort to solidify his "terrorist credentials," the informant suggested the men widen their aims to attack FBI offices in Miami, Chicago, Los Angeles, Washington and New York, a law enforcement source said.

Batiste and his followers readily agreed, even taking an Al Qaeda oath at the suggestion of the informant, Justice Department sources said. Soon, Batiste and the agent began a surveillance operation of the FBI office in Miami - while the bureau watched their every move, sources said.

The FBI made sure the informant suggested Bureau buildings and not, say, airports, in order to maintain an element of control," said a law enforcement source. "The FBI knew exactly what was going on and was in complete control.

The terror suspects never performed reconnaissance on the Sears Tower or any other FBI office, including the one in lower Manhattan that was also targeted in a 1993 plot to blow up New York landmarks. They also never acquired any of the explosives to carry out their attacks, authorities said.

Originally published on July 6, 2006 "

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/432918p-364663c.html

In official story, one ring was lost - they never talked about who introduced that "Al Qaida representative". As I have said, it was impossible that a representative knocked at the door, said Allah told him to come. There must be an introducer. No one could be it except the ring leader Narseal Batiste. So Batiste was an informant too. Authority avoid to talk about this because it would reveal the terrorist group were created, acted under the guidance of the intelligence.

These kind of self created terror group used to have something common:
1. An informant disguised as terrorist to prove authority is true. Moussaoui and Nick Berg are the sample. Batiste in Miami terror cell, and Hammoud in NYC tunnel case are the same. The ignorant youths recruited always have been eliminated in "suicide bombing". Sometimes even these informants became sacrifice too. (like in 911, London bombing)

2. In Miami terror cell case, Al Qaida representative led (you know that's the FBI instruction) an Al Qaida oath. I believe it was recorded as evidence. When these youths died in a "suicide bombing", the media will show you a tape how these people swore to die for Al Qaida. Although these ignorant youths were not aware that oath was a trap.

Similar scene can be seen from a 7/6 news. A tape showed a London bomber, shehzad Tanweer (one of the London bomber), wearing a checkered kaffiyeh, warned that the attacks were only the beginning of a campaign of terror. The tape, could be made in same situation of that Al Qaida oath - under the guidance of intelligence.

3. Why FBI guide the terror cell to attack FBI office.

(1) On 5/31/02, I wrote that Feds was behind OKC bombing.
Re: The motive of OKC bombing by McVeigh is to revenge government's injustice in Waco. His target was FBI and BATF in Murrah Federal Building. Yet on that day, all staffs of FBI and BATF were absent. They knew the bombing in advance. Other federal employees became scapegoat. see "(68. Ashcroft's revenge (5/31/02))"

(2) A response to cover up my allegation. On 10/14/02, they shot a FBI staff to death to quit the allegation that FBI was behind DC sniper shooting spree.

Re: 10/2/02, Bill to authorize the use of armed force against Iraq was present to the House. 10/11/02, Senator passed the bill.
Same day on 10/2, sniper started his first shoot, within 10 days to 10/11, there were 11 shoots. This is action period. Purposed to intimidate law makers to pass the bill.

10/12 to 10/24, a retreat period. 3 shootings in 13 days period. to cover up the retreat.
10/14, 12th shooting. FBI staff Linda Franklin was shot to death. (a tactic of "Thief cried "thieves". "I am the victim. I am not the perpetrator". )
10/19, 13th shooting came with a demand of ransom. Plant the shooting spree a motive.
10/23, 14th shooting followed by the arrest of Muhammad and Malvo to finish the case. (see #128 and #129)

(3) Miami case. FBI guided terror cell to aim at FBI office resembles to the shooting death of FBI staff Linda Franklin. A tactic to avoid the profile of a perpetrator but remain more like a victim when the bombing happens. It originates from OKC bombing.
 
Banning the liquid luggage is a deliberate. The more inconvenience travelers have, the more hatred they have on Al Qaida. People will believe it all caused by Al Qaida when there is a new attack happens in US. It's a psychological operation - a pre planted mind.

Quote, "To Build the Impossible Bomb

You see ... it can't be done. It quite simply cannot be done. Not in any airplane toilet. Not with any resources that might be available aboard any airplane other than Tom Swift's Flying Lab. Not with the time afforded by a Trans-Atlantic flight. And certainly - not by anybody without chemistry lab training and experience - not under the circumstances claimed, anyway.

If Muslims favor TATP bombs - and there is evidence to support the claim that Muslims use TATP bombs - then Muslims who might do so know full well the limitations and hazards inherent to such an explosive. No Muslim in his right mind would attempt what has been claimed, because he would know it can't be done - and, believe me, doing it under any circumstances would require a Muslim in his right mind. At best, the guy simply would kill himself, and do little damage to the plane's toilet. Regardless, nobody would be allowed the opportunity to spend hours in the toilet ... not aboard a jetliner. In a moment, I will prove to you why TATP simply cannot be made aboard jetliners, but first, please be really clear about the significance of that fact: that it conclusively proves Bush and Blair to be lying weasels. Not just dumb. Not just stupid. Lying, treasonous, unforgivable, murdering bastards.
TATP or Not TATP? - That is the Question

A friend with a doctorate in chemistry sent me the following:
"According to the official government story, TATP (triacetone triperoxide) was the explosive these conspirators were planning to manufacture aboard the airliners.

"This story is not plausible for a number of reasons, but let's take a quick look at just enough of the science so as not to provide anybody with a guide to making an actual bomb: TATP is made from hydrogen peroxide solution, acetone and sulfuric acid. The reaction can be carried out with just about any concentration, but is best done with concentrated solutions of both peroxide and acetone.

"The peroxide and acetone can be pre-mixed, but the acid must be added, a drop at a time, to the solution, all the while continuously stirring it and keeping it continuously chilled. This step of the process will take several hours, during which the fumes given off will be substantial and quite overpowering, thus a lab-quality air evacuation system is required. (ES: right here, the whole idea of a TATP bomb becomes ludicrous. Difficult in a lab, but impossible in an airplane due to the environment - the toilet - and the time requirement.)

"One then must let the resulting solution stand for an extended period at temperatures above the freezing point, but definitely below 10 Celsius (50 Fahrenheit). Above 10 Celsius, the TATP does not form; instead, diperoxide forms, which is so unstable it cannot be worked with. The time required for the reaction to go to completion is at least 24 hours and often several days.
"Once the TATP forms, it crystallizes as snowflakes from the solution and must be harvested by filtration and the liquid discarded. The TATP then is dried and carefully stored until needed. It must be stored below 10 Celsius or it converts spontaneously to the unstable diperoxide.

"There is neither the time, the workspace nor the other materials required to make TATP on an airliner. The time required, the temperatures required, the workspace required and the need to dry the chemical prior to use preclude this story being reasonable. This chemical process is much more sensitive than making, for example, nitroglycerin."

The technically proficient reading this will recognize that a necessary step has been omitted and some others have been altered in critical ways. None of these purposeful camouflages alter the ingredients or the time, care and equipment required. Nor will I describe how TATP can be fabricated beforehand and then detonated aboard an airliner in flight. After all, though we want to demonstrate the impossibility of what has been claimed, we don't want anybody actually trying this at home - and there really are some genuine whack jobs out there. After all, we elect some of them to public office.

An excellent (and humorous) on-line discussion by British writer Thomas Greene, also as to why TATP simply cannot be made aboard a plane: "Mass murder in the skies: was the plot feasible?" Mr. Greene agrees with my friend, the PhD in chemistry, and concludes his description of the process of creating TATP with: "So the fabled binary liquid explosive - that is, the sudden mixing of hydrogen peroxide and acetone with sulfuric acid to create a plane-killing explosion, is out of the question."

So it's impossible to make TATP as claimed, yet still they confiscate liquids from us, including sodas and baby formula, not to mention toothpaste and, even, lipsticks? Even if possible to make TATP as claimed, the individual smells of peroxide, acetone and sulfuric acid are obvious enough to preclude people having to be shaken down and terrorized by the airport Gestapo in this fashion. You have to wonder: Just exactly what is going on?

http://www.rense.com/general73/liq.htm

The Great UK Terrorist Fraud

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2476.htm
 
I'm willing to bet that no one reads your posts kath.
 
Oh, they'll pay. They will definitely pay.
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Who,al-qaeda?

There were more bombs this week in India.........in a muslim dominated area....no doubt to set up another Hindu-Muslim free-for-all.
 
What I hate about terrorism, not counting the civilian deaths, is that you can't solve it with a Division's worth of troops and loads of tanks.
 
More information about liquid bombing which media won't report.

Quote, "Liquid Bomb Pakistan Link Is False Flag Smoking Gun
Veracity of liquid explosives method also put under dubious doubt
Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | August 13 2006

According to former NSA official Wayne Madsen, the Lashkar-e-Toiba terror group, to which Rashid Rauf is affiliated, is wholly operated and funded by the Pakistani ISI.

The Pakistani ISI is a CIA front and controls terror cells at the discretion of the highest levels of the US military-industrial complex. This means that the potential mastermind of the liquid bomb plot, Rashid Rauf (pictured), was operating under the oversight and direction of Pakistani and by proxy American intelligence agencies.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/130806liquidbomb.htm

To understand why the Pakistan link strongly indicates that Thursday morning's terror alert was a manufactured ruse, it is necessary to understand the the nexus that connects Pakistani intelligence, the CIA and terrorist organizations.

In October 2001, under the headline 'Pakistani Intelligence Had Links to Al Qaeda, U.S. Officials Say,' the New York Times reported, "The intelligence service of Pakistan, a crucial American ally in the war on terrorism, has had an indirect but longstanding relationship with Al Qaeda, turning a blind eye for years to the growing ties between Osama bin Laden and the Taliban, according to American officials."

The ISI has received CIA funds to create and control militant organizations, including the Taliban and Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan.

Funds transferred from Pakistan bankrolled the alleged 9/11 hijackers before the attack. Ahmad Umar Sheikh wired $100,000 from Karachi to alleged lead hijacker Mohammed Atta at the behest of ISI chief Mahmoud Ahmad. If this isn't a direct link from the ISI to Al-Qaeda then nothing is.

Porter Goss, later appointed as director of the CIA, was having breakfast with the money man behind the terrorists as the planes crashed on the morning of 9/11. Ahmad had also met with top defense and intelligence officials in Washington in the days before the attack, including then CIA director George Tenet, Pentagon officials, and White House personnel.
The fact that the Pakistani financier of the alleged hijackers was meeting with the top brass of the US government in the week before the attack was never investigated by the 9/11 Commission.

In addition, alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed was repeatedly protected by the ISI, according to Josef Bodansky, the director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare.
Defense Intelligence Agency documents dated from 2001 clearly indicate that the CIA is aware that Pakistan's ISI supports and bankrolls Al-Qaeda groups but they have deliberately chosen to ignore the connection.
This rich history of ISI creation and protection of terrorist cells, allied with the fact that the ISI is a known CIA front, and added to the revelation that the mastermind of the liquid bomb plot Rashid Rauf is under ISI control, it is therefore obvious to conclude that the entire charade was cooked and orchestrated by elements of the Bush/Blair cabal and sold as promotional propaganda for the increased surveillance and behavioral control of UK and US citizens.

At the very least, the terror cell had been fully infiltrated for months - this has already been admitted - and the snap "foiling" of the attack was coordinated and stage-managed for purposes of political grandstanding on the part of Bush, Blair and the Neo-Fascist apparatus that seeks to use the ailing justification of the war on terror for a future military incursion into Iran.
Another dimension to the indication that we are being fed another hoax, are reports detailing the alleged plot's links to the 7/7 London bombings.
As this website has exhaustively documented for over a year, the 7/7 bombings and the patsies that were used to take the fall for them, were controlled and engineered by the British intelligence apparatus.
The alleged ringleader of the attack which targeted three tube trains and one bus, Mohammed Siddique Khan, was an MI5 informant, according to former London Metropolitan Police detective and terror expert Charles Shoebridge. Therefore, in the case of the liquid bomb plot suspects, any link to the London bombers is a link to MI5.
It is clear that the scope of the attack has been greatly exaggerated by the British government to maximize fear and subservience engendered by images of alarmed and frightened airliner passengers.
Doomsday proclamations of ten planes exploding into balls of flames in mid-air do not correlate with the capacity of the liquid explosives the alleged terrorists were to use.
The only other example where terrorists used liquid explosives was the December 1994 Philippines Airline Boeing 747 incident, a dry run for a bigger plot conducted by Ramzi Youssef.
In this case, Youssef planted the explosives explosives under one of the seats in the airliner and timed them to detonate after he disembarked for a connecting flight. The subsequent explosion killed only the Japanese businessman who was sitting directly above the bomb. Besides five people with minor injuries, the other 200-plus passengers were unharmed and the plane landed safely.
Only liquid explosives in large and noticeable amounts can have any literal chance of "blowing up" a plane in mid-air. Confiscating pregnant white women's lip gloss is completely insane and proves in itself that the new airport measures are purely designed to act as a PR coup for the police state.
In addition, photographs of passengers being ordered to pour liquids into one single container completely belies the claim that the alleged terrorists planned to mix the liquids to create the deadly explosives. If mixing liquids was a key component of the bomb making process then why are airport security ordering people to mix liquids?
World Affairs Brief editor Joel Skousen highlights prescient questions about the inconsistencies of the properties of the alleged liquid explosives in relation to the much vaunted scale of the foiled attack.
"The supposed explosive device this time was a Peroxide-based explosive, which is mildly explosive and can be prepared from acetone, hydrogen Peroxide, and an acid catalyst. This type is claimed by governments to be "widely in use by terrorist groups," though we have no known terrorist events where it has been used, except by one Palestinian terrorist, and then as a detonator only-not as the main charge. This explosive material is usually known by its abbreviation TATP (Tri Acetone Tri Peroxide)," writes Skousen.

"Both Peroxide and Acetone are clear liquids, but acetone (laquer thinner) is easily identifiable by smell and its high rate of evaporation. Experts indicate it is very unstable and highly unlikely to be a stand-alone explosive to take down an airliner. The quantities would have to be large enough to be easily noticed. Thus, even though this is a theoretical threat, banning all cosmetics and lotions is stupid and banning all liquids is unnecessary. Only clear liquids need checking. There is cheap test equipment for TATP, and simple ways for TSA employees to quickly check for acetone and peroxide."
Returning to how the latest plot is a mirror image of Operation Bojinka - the Ramzi Youssef link is also telling because Youssef has been protected and coddled by the US government at every juncture.

In September of 1992 Youssef entered the US with Ahmad Ajaj. Ajaj's luggage contained documents on how to make bombs and was stuffed with fake passports and ID's. Ajaj was arrested - amazingly Youssef was released.

Youssef later masterminded the WTC '93 bombing with the gracious help of FBI agents. Having penetrated the group before the bombing, the FBI's mole, Emad Salem, was told to arm the terror cell with dummy explosives so a sting operation could ensnare the perpetrators. Salem was mystified when the orders changed, the sting was called off and the FBI allowed the bombing to go forward. This was all admitted in an October 1993 New York Times front page story.

Again, any Operation Bojinka or Ramzi Youssef link in the case of the liquid bomb plot is a link back to western intelligence agencies.

Within three days of its exposure, Tony Blair and MI5 are already milking the alleged plot for political purposes in re-introducing the argument for 90-day detention without charge legislation. Blair suffered his only defeat to date in the Commons last November when the bill was shot down by Labour rebels - a humiliating rejection of the so-called 'liberal' government's feverish bloodlust for authoritarian control.
Reports of criminal insider trading on airline stocks before the announcement of the alleged foiled plot, specifically British Airways stocks, have also started to filter in and will be the subject of a follow-up investigation.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/130806liquidbomb.htm
 
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