I finally got the custom 1911 I ordered 7 months ago!!

[Yuri]

They are used to kill stuff.

Handguns?

Good luck with that.

 

[houndeye]

Handguns?

Good luck with that.

US East, huh? Where, Maine? Vermont? Last I checked lots of people get killed by people using handguns. They are like upgraded knives.

 

[Yuri]

US East, huh? Where, Maine? Vermont? Last I checked lots of people get killed by people using handguns. They are like upgraded knives.

Hmm... I meant legally kill things, you see. I was assuming that our friend the forumite wasn't about to go out and murder people.

 

[houndeye]

Hmm... I meant legally kill things, you see. I was assuming that our friend the forumite wasn't about to go out and murder people.

He carries it so that if someone tries to kill him or his family, or take his stuff, he can legally murder them. Although, judging by the pricetag and his desire to show off his gun to this forum, I'm sure he mostly bought it cause he thinks it's 'awesome'.

 

[short recoil]

Having a gun is like having a smoke detector, you hope it never has to be used.

I mean, personally i don't really need a gun, i like how they work etc just in the same way old men get excited about steam trains or old planes etc, it's the power of the machine that is actractive, it's the modern day equivalent of tackling a woolly mamoth.

If someone broke in my house and threatened my life they'd be decapitated with my sword, failing that they'd have their neck broken or face smashed in.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

He carries it so that if someone tries to kill him or his family, or take his stuff, he can legally murder them. Although, judging by the pricetag and his desire to show off his gun to this forum, I'm sure he mostly bought it cause he thinks it's 'awesome'.

There is no legal murder- that's a legal term. He could legally kill them, wouldn't be termed murder though.

 

[Yuri]

He carries it so that if someone tries to kill him or his family, or take his stuff, he can legally murder them. Although, judging by the pricetag and his desire to show off his gun to this forum, I'm sure he mostly bought it cause he thinks it's 'awesome'.

I'm absolutely positive that you cannot legally kill someone for just stealing your things.

You people scare me. I'm going to leave this thread now.

 

[OvA]

I'm absolutely positive that you cannot legally kill someone for just stealing your things.

You people scare me. I'm going to leave this thread now.

Once they are inside your house, they are fair game.

 

[houndeye]

There is no legal murder- that's a legal term. He could legally kill them, wouldn't be termed murder though.

Indubitably astute of you. I've been linguistically dominated. ;(

 

[short recoil]

Once they are inside your house, they are fair game.

Here it's only if they are a threat to your life, i dunno about there.
If someone breaks in and they try to leave and you shoot them in the back as "punishment" then it's wrong.
If they are coming at you with a weapon (you are a threat to them, as they are trying not to get caught) and you take the back of their head off with a .45 then it's right.

 

[BillyJoBob]

Wowzers that's a really really nice 1911, I'm jealouse. :O

I've been thinking about getting a World War 2 era 1911 when I can afford it.

 

[houndeye]

Here it's only if they are a threat to your life, i dunno about there.
If someone breaks in and they try to leave and you shoot them in the back as "punishment" then it's wrong.
If they are coming at you with a weapon (you are a threat to them, as they are trying not to get caught) and you take the back of their head off with a .45 then it's right.

Yes, I was being a tad overzealous. If they try to steal your stuff, you can only beat them up, not kill them.

Use of force in defense of premises.

(a) A person in lawful possession or control of premises, as defined in Section 13A-3-20, or a person who is licensed or privileged to be thereon, may use physical force upon another person when and to the extent that he reasonably believes it necessary to prevent or terminate what he reasonably believes to be the commission or attempted commission of a criminal trespass by the other person in or upon such premises.

(b) A person may use deadly physical force under the circumstances set forth in subsection (a) of this section only:

(1) In defense of a person, as provided in Section 13A-3-23; or

(2) When he reasonably believes it necessary to prevent the commission of arson in the first or second degree by the trespasser.

Here you can kill someone on your property only if they are trying to start fires. I believe Section 13A-3-23 says you can use deadly force if someone is threatening to kill someone, or regular(?) force if they are gonna beat someone up.

As far as I know, each state is different, and there aren't federal rules.

 

[SIGbastard]

I was raised with firearms in the house. When I was old enough I was trained how to handle them responsibly. There is a way to be responsible with children and firearms.


Thanks a million . I wasn't aware Kingman had so many complete ammo and firearm shops. I only knew of two. Going to have to take a day to check all these little hidden away places out and see what they have got to offer.

Depending on your states laws some FFL's can do transfers from their house. Alot of the addresses that come up on the list from gunbroker are likely to be residential addresses.

 

[SIGbastard]

Here it's only if they are a threat to your life, i dunno about there.
If someone breaks in and they try to leave and you shoot them in the back as "punishment" then it's wrong.
If they are coming at you with a weapon (you are a threat to them, as they are trying not to get caught) and you take the back of their head off with a .45 then it's right.

Oklahoma has a "make my day law". It doesn't matter why they are in your house once they are inside you can shoot to kill if they are a trespasser. They could be armed with a kitchen spoon and you could legally shoot them. The view held in southern states like OK if you are in your home you have an absolute right to defend yourself from any intruder.


If you are carrying (with a permit) you have to be threatened with serious bodily harm or be in imminent danger to even touch your firearm when in public. If you were to even grab your pistol and not unholster it that is considered deadly force so you have to have a legal reason to do so.

 

[SIGbastard]

oops double post

 

[Kamikazie]

there is an "edit" button SIG...

hell i have a .38 special in felt cloth, in a gun case, in a safe, in my room...its pretty cool actually

 

[SIGbastard]

He carries it so that if someone tries to kill him or his family, or take his stuff, he can legally KILL them. Although, judging by the pricetag and his desire to show off his gun to this forum, I'm sure he mostly bought it cause he thinks it's 'awesome'.

I fixed your post above with the word KILL.

Your right I do think my new .45 is awesome. I will most likely use it in Bullseye competions and IDPA at the private gun range I am a member at. Collecting and shooting is my hobby. You know how some gamers put ridiculous amounts of money in their PC's because they want them to be as sweet and fast as possible. It's kinda the same idea. To get true quality you have to be willing to pay and since I shoot ALL the time I wanted the very best I could afford. I know it's hard for you to understand but the same concept applies to just about any hobby.

My gun isn't actually a true custom. It's more of a semi-custom as it is a product offered by a company regularly. It is still custom because I can specify every part and how it is fit etc. A true custom will generally cost mroe than $2k. There are often waiting lists of 2-3 years for smiths like Novak, Heinie and many others to build a true full house custom gun. For me though this was a better deal. It is exactly what I wanted but cheaper and faster.

I like to show off my toys jsut like I was proud to show my new son recently.

 

[SIGbastard]

there is an "edit" button SIG...

hell i have a .38 special in felt cloth, in a gun case, in a safe, in my room...its pretty cool actually

I don't like to take the time to edit one post to respond to every post I read. It doesn't really do anything different than quoting people individually.

 

[Kamikazie]

i guess you're right...sorry i brought it up

 

[Yuri]

Once they are inside your house, they are fair game.

No they aren't, at least not around me. Only if they are assaulting you.

In fact, injured thieves have successfully sued people who booby trapped their houses.

Maybe its different in Oklahoma. Wow, that's a pretty terrible law. So many accidental deaths could result from that...

Anyway. Yeah.

 

[short recoil]

there is an "edit" button SIG...

hell i have a .38 special in felt cloth, in a gun case, in a safe, in my room...its pretty cool actually

.38 special is useless unless you have some 158gr JHP +p rounds the 385 joules won't give that much stopping power but it's better than a 345 joule 140gr standard .38

 

[Beerdude26]

.38 special is useless unless you have some 158gr JHP +p rounds the 385 joules won't give that much stopping power but it's better than a 345 joule 140gr standard .38

Well, I think people will stop running at him with a blunt object if he aims that .38 at them

 

[Gui!]

Bah where i live, owning a gun is a pointless thing unless you are into going down the shootin range and u have a passion for that hobbie.... although owning a gun does sound like a cool thing, probably end up shootin myself:|

 

[TheSomeone]

What the hell is up with you people and guns.

 

[short recoil]

What the hell is up with you people and guns.

The same thing as people and their mustangs, skylines and corvettes.

 

[Gui!]

well we are humans and have this knack of destroying eachother

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Depending on your states laws some FFL's can do transfers from their house. Alot of the addresses that come up on the list from gunbroker are likely to be residential addresses.

I'm absolutely sure of that, I'm in Arizona. Hehe. A lot of these addresses are just residential/homes.

 

[Yuri]

The same thing as people and their mustangs, skylines and corvettes.

Only with things that have the single purpose of killing and destroying things. :angel:

 

[short recoil]

Only with things that have the single purpose of killing and destroying things. :angel:

Yeah but that's not always bad.....
A car just has the purpose of moving you from A to B faster...

It's just about what you like and what you need.

 

[Absinthe]

You got a gun. Have a cookie.

 

[Gui!]

naw its not a cookie, its a toffee

 

[Nat Turner]

Only with things that have the single purpose of killing and destroying things. :angel:

Sometimes people need to be killed. What's your point?

 

[Absinthe]

Meh, I just don't care much for "show off" topics, be they concerning cars, firearms, PC rigs, whatever. You have it, I don't, and thus I don't care. Or perhaps you will inspire envy from me, which doesn't add any perk to my day.

I got a neat fridge magnet/bottle opener for Christmas, though. If anybody wants to see it, I mean.

 

[Top Secret]

I got a neat fridge magnet/bottle opener for Christmas, though. If anybody wants to see it, I mean.

To be completely honest, I actually do. Start a thread on it. :|

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

What the hell is up with you people and guns.

Quite the question coming from you, you basically want to throw a cat off a tower and see if it will survive.

 

[Absinthe]

Quite the question coming from you, you basically want to throw a cat off a tower and see if it will survive.

No, I think that was me.

 

[Nat Turner]

No, I think that was me.

TheSomeone wants to throw you off a tower to see if you'll survive??

 

[Absinthe]

Gasp! Shock!

 

[Yuri]

Sometimes people need to be killed. What's your point?

Uhhh... what? :|

 

[Nat Turner]

Uhhh... what? :|

Self-defense. If someone breaks into your house and threatens your family, what are you going to do? Run around and cry?