I just bought a laptop

[N1k23]

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/st...-15257&fm=undefined&sm=undefined&tm=undefined

what fps should I get on css with that?

is the graphics card good and do you think I could of got a better laptop for the same, or lower, price.

 

[G-Dub]

Not sure on the FPS but it should run it well.

Defrag it often to keep it speedy for longer.

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

I'll tell you this, if you don't have it plugged into the wall when playing games, it won't run well. Keep it plugged into the wall if you want the best performance.

 

[N1k23]

I'll tell you this, if you don't have it plugged into the wall when playing games, it won't run well. Keep it plugged into the wall if you want the best performance.

yeah, is the graphics card good though, and could I run all setting on high?

 

[IonizeMyAtoms]

No not high, if it had a 256mb video card then yeah. But you can definitely get the upper end of medium.

 

[DSDchemE]

If it's a derivative of the Xpress 200M (and it may not be), then it's based off the Radeon x300 series.
http://www.ati.com/products/Radeonxpress200m/index.html

Not sure how good that is, but should run at good settings (I'm definitely not an expert on graphics cards).

Then again it may not be based on the Xpress. My 345M IGP was a POS Radeon 7000 based card, so you can never tell. What DX level can you play at (it'll give you a sign of what the card is based off)?

 

[Sanada]

I've got the 320M IGP in my laptop and it's useless at running games. It can barely run AvP2 properly. Saying that, it's a business laptop so it wasn't made for intence graphics.

Same as mine except mines got a Althon 2200+, 768MB and a 14" screen.

You might be able to run it but don't expect much TBH. I doubt it'll run CSS with everything on full.

 

[IonizeMyAtoms]

Yeah don't listen to me, I was way off

 

[Dumb Dude]

If it's a derivative of the Xpress 200M (and it may not be), then it's based off the Radeon x300 series.
http://www.ati.com/products/Radeonxpress200m/index.html

Not sure how good that is, but should run at good settings (I'm definitely not an expert on graphics cards).

Then again it may not be based on the Xpress. My 345M IGP was a POS Radeon 7000 based card, so you can never tell. What DX level can you play at (it'll give you a sign of what the card is based off)?

It is infact a derivative of the x300 core, check here:

http://www.ati.com/products/radeonxpress200m/

 

[WhiteZero]

No not high, if it had a 256mb video card then yeah. But you can definitely get the upper end of medium.

I can run everything on High and I have a 128 card...
-.-

It's never so much the VRAM you have, Core Clock and Memory Clock rates are just as, if not more important.

 

[DSDchemE]

I hate to say it, but thats the same thing I said, and the same link too.

The reason I said it might not be based on the x300 is because the Radeon 200M IGP (what is in the computer) may not be the same as the Radeon Xpress 200M. Usually IGPs are integrated into the motherboard directly, and can not be removed. The Xpress seems like it is a PCI-express notebook card. Additionally, the Xpress page never mentions available memory, while the computer spec does (128MB).

If 200m IGP = Xpress 200m, you should be able to play with good settings. If 200m IGP != Xpress 200m, you may be in for a disappointment. That's why I need to know what DirectX support and shaders it has.

 

[Sanada]

I think this link contains all the IGP's ATI do.

http://www.ati.com/buy/onboard/integrated/nbookigp.html

 

[oldagerocker]

That looks like a real good bargain to me...i want one!!

 

[DSDchemE]

No...that only has a few models that use the card, nowhere near all of them (there's so many slight variations and new models that it really can't be all inclusive). The guy who posted this topic has an ATI 200m IGP in a Compaq laptop, a combination which definitely isn't on that page.

Also, sometimes manufacturers (Compaq in this case) make slight modifications to the existing card to get it to work with the specific display. My laptop had a 345m, which is not a standard card, but was basically a 340m modified by HP to make it even worse.

 

[N1k23]

ok thanks for all your replies, I should have the internet up and running tommorow on the laptop, so I should be able to let you know how well it works.

Will it the card work better than the geforce 5200 fx the computer has?

 

[holydeadpenguins]

yes, but still the x300 sucks, a 9600 would probably do better than that.

 

[N1k23]

what is min fps I wil get when everything is on medium?

 

[DSDchemE]

Again, it's hard to tell without know the specifics of the card (whether it's standard/modified, etc.) Try this: bring up the Display Properties, Settings->Advanced->Adapter tab, and then let us know what the Adapter Type is. Also, the fps is dependant on RAM, CPU, and complexity of the screen at that moment, so it's really hard to predict (at least for me, maybe others have more experience).

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

what is min fps I wil get when everything is on medium?

I'll put it this way, no one can tell what your fps will be, since NONE of us have that laptop. Simple answer

 

[Sanada]

Changing the model detail in CSS seems to have minimal change from high, medium to low. It does for me anyway. I tried it on office and only seemed to get about 10-15FPS extra. I even went down to DX7.

Many of the prop models in CSS don't have LOD so changing the model detail may only improve it a little.

It's hard to know what you'll get like DiSTuRbEd said. You'll just have to try it. If I tried it on my laptop it'd probably blow-up.

 

[N1k23]

Again, it's hard to tell without know the specifics of the card (whether it's standard/modified, etc.) Try this: bring up the Display Properties, Settings->Advanced->Adapter tab, and then let us know what the Adapter Type is. Also, the fps is dependant on RAM, CPU, and complexity of the screen at that moment, so it's really hard to predict (at least for me, maybe others have more experience).

ok, the card is an ATI Mobility Radeon Xpress 200 series and it says on the page the RAM ect.

 

[DSDchemE]

OK...that's good to know. Unfortunately my network connection is really slow (I ran over my bandwidth and got knocked down to sub dial-up speed) so I can't really hunt for info for you.

However, you can probably google reviews for the Xpress Mobility chipsets. Half-Life 2 is one of the main games used in performance reviews these days, so you might be able to find the info you want. If you can't find Xpress reviews, try finding reviews for the X300 (since that's what the Xpress is based on). Good luck, and sorry I can't give you anything concrete.