I love the British, you guys have balls

solaris152000 said:
I know alot about his past career.
I will not vote lib dem and this is a reason why. They have Lords in their party. The arrogance of this title angors me. Why are they a lord, becuase they were born into a certain familly. They are not superior to me, or a better person yet the title theve adopted states they are. This just shows that they are not built for the average joe, teh working class. They are a bunch of rich people trying to get into power by apealing to the working class. However Respect (Galloways Party), are built by and for the working class.

Respect practise equality. Both parties (lib dems and Respect) opposed the war, however the Lib dems made a small speech in the hosue of commons saying how, they would not support a war without UN backing, but if war did happen they would support it. However we (respect) were on teh front line, in the streets and the palcards along with many others, george galloway himself was.

Respect are not about comprimise and talks. Respect are for what is right in this country, we will not fall to pressure or as George Gallow has proven let wild allegations against us stand. When the daily express printed its 'false' claims on George Galloway he took them to court, and shown the world taht these appers were false and he was an innocent man. These right wing papers ocnstantley try and dismiss him, I was reading an artivle in the times about him, and the critism had nothing to do with his politics, but his age appearnace and accent. This sort of childish name calling, is an atempt for the right wing establish ments and governments to try and tarnish his reputation. They cannot argue abotu real facts becuase he always comes out on top. Instead they just try and dissmiss him as 'loony left' and the such. This, as he is now an MP, is obviously not working. So if you are going to dissmiss him please try and provide a bit more strength to your argument, than calling him a crazy twat. If you can.

Solaris

I really think you should be more critical of him. I mean, you're hero worshipping him at the moment. I'm not quite sure that you'll be willing to accept that he isn't perfect.

Anyway:

Why I don't like George Galloway as a politician

* I don't like the way he got elected in the last General Election. He didn't stand in his old constituancy, he went to somewhere where he could exploit anti-war feeling amoung Muslims by saying that the Iraq War was a war against Muslims.
* I don't like his support for the former Soviet Union. Not a very nice thing.
* I don't like the way he presents arguments. I dislike people like that, I don't like feeling that people are twisting things in order to get me to feel strongly about something.
* I'm not a fan of far-left politics in General.
* I don't like the way he's claiming that he was talking to the entire Iraqi people when he famously addressed Saddam in 1994.
* I don't think protest marching against something is a correct way to conduct politics. I prefer debates in the Commons. This is my opinion.
* I don't like the way he's claiming that he was kicked out of the Labour party for opposing the Iraq war. It's a bit more than that.

Also, on a side note, I came across this picture in my general web browsing: http://www.cpgb.org.uk/worker/528/george.jpg from this article: http://www.cpgb.org.uk/worker/528/george.html

And, incidently, it was the Telegraph that printed the letters against him.
 
* I don't like the way he's claiming that he was talking to the entire Iraqi people when he famously addressed Saddam in 1994.

Definitely, that makes him very fishy for me.

* I don't like the way he presents arguments.

Same here, he rubs me up the wrong way with the way he speaks. Not necessarily with the speech in the US, butdefinitely when he's debating in British politics. Trying to threaten one of your fellow panelists with a libel suit (on Question Time) in order to pwnify her is not very honourable in a forum of free debate.

* I don't like the way he got elected in the last General Election. He didn't stand in his old constituancy, he went to somewhere where he could exploit anti-war feeling amoung Muslims by saying that the Iraq War was a war against Muslims.

Well, all parties exploit this kind of thing to some degree. It's okay when you have a party that's large enough to be represented nationwide, so you know there are going to be places where you have sympathisers, but a party as small as Respect can't afford to place their trump card somewhere where he's not going to have any effect. Respect did have local muslim candidates standing in other places in London, but where I was Labour had far too much of a strangehold to be able to lose out, despite a 20+% swing against them.

In fact, where I was ONLY the Respect guy and the Labour guy lived anywhere near the place they were meant to be representing. My mum was going to vote Lib Dem before she saw the guy's address way off in Essex. Call it shallow, but trying to prey on people's dissatisfaction in a poor constituency a dozen bloody miles away is bullshit if you're a much larger party.

Similarly, all parties exploit ethnicity to a degree - you're more likely to find a non-white candidate running in a constituency with a big ethnic population, and not just because it's where they're from. So I don't think you can really blame Galloway for standing in an area where he expects to gain sympathy.

I do agree that he's a fishy and just not really likeable guy. But I stick by my idea - in an age when even the "centrist" party are leaning far right enough for their shoulder to scrape the floor, then it's good to have a far left firebrand stirring shit up, inviting debate, and creating balance.
 
Laivasse said:
I do agree that he's a fishy and just not really likeable guy. But I stick by my idea - in an age when even the "centrist" party are leaning far right enough for their shoulder to scrape the floor, then it's good to have a far left firebrand stirring shit up, inviting debate, and creating balance.

yeah, he should be allowed to stand and stuff, but that's doesn't mean I have to like him.
 
Im not a member of Respect atm, however I am a supporter and have donated to them.

He was a very far left Labour member, and thats why he was expelled. The reason he stood in the high Muslim area, is becuase he could win their. The Muslim commenity feels very left out at the mainstream partys, and George Galloway and Respect were the solution. Respect is not a one policy party, and their policys appealed greatly to the Muslim community. I hold nothing against him for that.
 
solaris152000 said:
Im not a member of Respect atm, however I am a supporter and have donated to them.

He was a very far left Labour member, and thats why he was expelled.

Well, he voted against the Whip some record number of times, so I don't really have anything against them for saying "If you're not going to support the party, we don't want you representing us".

If he really believed his party was right for the whole country, he'd stay where he'd always stood and campaign there. I feel really sorry for the Labour woman he ousted... She had her car vandalised by the same extremist Muslims who Galloway tried to pull in.
 
solaris152000 said:
Im not a member of Respect atm, however I am a supporter and have donated to them.

He was a very far left Labour member, and thats why he was expelled. The reason he stood in the high Muslim area, is becuase he could win their. The Muslim commenity feels very left out at the mainstream partys, and George Galloway and Respect were the solution. Respect is not a one policy party, and their policys appealed greatly to the Muslim community. I hold nothing against him for that.

Looking at the RESPECT website, I couldn't find any policies that would specifically appeal to Muslim voters other than saying that the current Government is Islamophobic and that the war against Iraq was a war against Muslims.

Also for Galloway, leaving the party:
Galloway, of course, was expelled from the Labour Party not for his 'views on Iraq' but for four specific acts: inciting foreign troops to fight British troops; inciting British troops to disobey orders; threatening to stand against Labour; and supporting a candidate for the Respect 'Coalition' in Preston. On a unanimous vote on all of these charges, he was expelled from the party. The fairness of the procedure was such that he was acquitted on a fifth charge of urging voters in Plymouth not to support Labour.

All things which you could expect to kicked out of a political party for. These aren't just "Left wing views".
 
Forget the fact that hes fishy, because on the day he said a whole lot of truths.
 
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