I was "attacked" in School today

[Jintor]

Bald is a hairstyle though... right? :O

 

[HunterSeeker]

Bald is a hairstyle though... right? :O

No its the lack of haristyle, how can you have a hairstyle without hair? Its like saying: Not drawing is my drawingstyle.

 

[Shakermaker]

Atheism might not be a religion, but it is a belief.

 

[Ennui]

Only in the sense that it's a belief that other beliefs are false.

 

[Shakermaker]

Only in the sense that it's a belief that other beliefs are false.

Yes, but still. It is a belief. I can see where the people that say atheism is a religion, are coming from. Because their frame of mind is a religious one, they see atheism - the belief that there is no god - as a religion. Which, in my humble opinion, is a false assumption since it doesn't involve any deities (rather their absence), but in their perspective it is. It's all semantics anyway.

 

[Solaris]

Yes, but still. It is a belief. I can see where the people that say atheism is a religion, are coming from. Because their frame of mind is a religious one, they see atheism - the belief that there is no god - as a religion. Which, in my humble opinion, is a false assumption since it doesn't involve any deities (rather their absence), but in their perspective it is. It's all semantics anyway.

No it is not a belief, it is an absence of a belief.

You don't need to know anything or hold any beliefs to qualify as an atheist.

 

[Shakermaker]

No it is not a belief, it is an absence of a belief.

You don't need to know anything or hold any beliefs to qualify as an atheist.

I beg to differ. You believe that there aren't any deities in the same way that you believe that the world isn't a flat disc for example.

 

[Solaris]

I beg to differ. You believe that there aren't any deities in the same way that you believe that the world isn't a flat disc for example.

A fish is an atheist.

A fish is incapable of holding any belief.

 

[PvtRyan]

I beg to differ. You believe that there aren't any deities in the same way that you believe that the world isn't a flat disc for example.

Uh.. I don't believe there is no God. I simply do not believe in a God. Important difference.

 

[CptStern]

absence of faith is not faith

 

[NeptuneUK]

I can't believe you are debating this shit.
I'm sorry (I'm not) for being blunt but some of you guys are ****ing retarded.

Religion:
- a strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny; "he lost his faith but not his morality"
- an institution to express belief in a divine power; "he was raised in the Baptist religion"; "a member of his own faith contradicted him"

Logic dictates that an atheist has no religion, because atheism is lack of religion.
If you want to debate word definitions...


**** off :
http://www.askoxford.com/

 

[Nemesis6]

To an earlier comment: If you follow the definition that something isn't a religion if there aren't any deities, you are probably making a lot of Confusiunists scratch their heads.

Atheism isn't a religion, but like many other "ism"s before it, it can be taken too far. The word "religitard" comes to mind. Yep, someone actually used it. Anyway, a lot of the people here are like those people. Granted, it's a politics forum, but it's not a discussion when you think someone is less intelligent than you because of his or her personal beliefs. In other words, science might prove you right on the God issue, but it doesn't make you any less of an asshole when you shove it in someone's face as the ultimate truth.

 

[Link]

So general belief is a religion? I believe I am breathing. Is that a religion?

If the belief is not IN something, its not a religion.

Plus, as many have said, atheism is not a belief that there is no god. It is not believing there is.

Case closed, those who still think atheism is a religion are wrong. If you can't understand why, then just accept it and keep quiet.

Move on.

 

[Sidewinder]

Well I think most of us here agree on that.

 

[Absinthe]

I beg to differ. You believe that there aren't any deities in the same way that you believe that the world isn't a flat disc for example.

Atheism requires an absence of belief in gods. Not the belief that there gods do not exist.

Atheism isn't a religion, but like many other "ism"s before it, it can be taken too far. The word "religitard" comes to mind. Yep, someone actually used it. Anyway, a lot of the people here are like those people. Granted, it's a politics forum, but it's not a discussion when you think someone is less intelligent than you because of his or her personal beliefs. In other words, science might prove you right on the God issue, but it doesn't make you any less of an asshole when you shove it in someone's face as the ultimate truth.

I wonder what it is you may be referring to. For the most part, I have seen most arguments from atheists on this forum as intellectually honest, systematic, and logical. You can certainly feel free to call it blunt, vicious, or whatever have you. It's certainly not nice. But if the persistence of reason is somehow offensive to you, then that's not a problem with atheists on these boards.

I am sorry that religious belief makes no sense. I am sorry that faith is a piss poor substitution for critical thought. But this expectation that I and others need to tread lightly and euphemise in order to not rub people the wrong way is not only idiotic, but even morally bankrupt to a degree. If there was ever a time to question the religious beliefs of others, it is now. And if that comes off as rude in some way, so be it.

It's not arrogance to point out when somebody is demonstrably wrong on something. If you argued with me that the moon is made out of cheese and I one day proved without a doubt that the belief you held with such utter conviction was quantifiably stupid - and I made damn sure you got this fact - would I be out of line? Because the only difference I'm seeing between religion and the cheese moon is that the former just so happens to be far more popular. If you think any of this is too harsh, you should check out some of the peer reviews done by members of the scientific community. They are far more unforgiving, critical, and even scathing of errors and discrepancies in one's work. And thank God too, because that has to be one of the best ways of filtering out bullshit.

 

[Sidewinder]

I wish Absinthe was in my College classes ^_^

 

[Asknoone]

I had the Christians on the door the other day. Sheer idiocy and blind faith was all I gleaned from these people, and as I continued to debunk everything they said she ultimately turned to reading out of her scabby bible - which I told her was silly - and began to list things such as todays youth being naive, narrow-minded and selfish, and that "the Lord is coming." which I loled at and told them to be on their way.

But it wasn't the woman with whom I was speaking to that got me annoyed. Oh no. It was the young woman in her twenties that got to me. Oh yes. She stood there, very straight, head cocked sideways and smiling at me whenever I looked at her. One of those people that really has never read the bible and have simply subscribed to it because they lack the rationality to do something more beneficial with their brains. I wanted to slap some sense into her so hard.

 

[delusional]

One of those people that really has never read the bible and have simply subscribed to it because they lack the rationality to do something more beneficial with their brains. I wanted to slap some sense into her so hard.

HA! I was one of those people, i went to peoples doors talking to them about the bible even though i never really read it. Thankfully i got out of that though.

 

[Absinthe]

I wanted to slap some sense into her so hard.

But was she fit?

I mean, that's the important part.

 

[Kula Meenur]

...thank god for atheism...


...OH GOD THE IRONY

 

[Jintor]

Have you ever met an Oh God?

Religion is irrationally protected in ours minds, ey.

 

[Asknoone]

But was she fit?

I mean, that's the important part.

No, she was slightly chubby. The girl with them on the other side of the road was fit though, and about my age too.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Throw them all to the lions I say.

 

[ktimekiller]

although atheism isnt a religion, some people *cough* protect it like it is

 

[Jerry_111]

why is this even an issue? What is it with some religious people insisting on referring to atheism as a religion?