I'm boycotting ViewSonic as well as all LCD monitors

[ailevation]

My friend has a 72' 1080i Samsung LCD TV, and GTA IV looked like pure shite on it.

I was told GTA IV's native resolution was 720p so I tried switching resolutions in the 360's dashboard console. Still looked like shite. Maybe he had his HDMI/component cables installed incorrectly or something, but that's too much hassle when GTA IV looked so much better in comparison on my old 19' HD TruFlat CRT. :|

Well think about it dude

1920 x 1080 pixels on a 72" screen... that's like doing 1024 x 728 on a 20" monitor.

I personally still think it looks good though on a 72"

 

[Saturos]

:| Every game on the 360 outputs at 720p.

But I've played plenty of other 360 games on his 72" like Halo3 and CoD4 for instance and those games didn't look like shite. :|

How do you explain, "every game on the 360 outputs at 720p" with that?

Well think about it dude

1920 x 1080 pixels on a 72" screen... that's like doing 1024 x 728 on a 20" monitor.

I know, but this whole "HD resolution" thing is all out of control. What happened to the days when you could just plug up a system to any TV and still have fun? Meh, maybe I'm getting too old to keep up with what the young'uns like these days. lol Back in the day, as long as the TVs we used for our NES, SNES, and Genesis weren't black and white, we used to not care.

I personally still think it looks good though on a 72"

More power to you if you really think so. I dun like it. GTA IV Looks all washed out and blocky on a HD LCD to me.

 

[nurizeko]

Samsung monitors seem to be of very good quality overall, so you probably wanna fork out for one of them, they last.

 

[ailevation]

But I've played plenty of other 360 games on his 72" like Halo3 and CoD4 for instance and those games didn't look like shite. :|

How do you explain, "every game on the 360 outputs at 720p" with that?

I know, but this whole "HD resolution" thing is all out of control. What happened to the days when you could just plug up a system to any TV and still have fun? Meh, maybe I'm getting too old to keep up with what the young'uns like these days. lol Back in the day, as long as the TVs we used for our NES, SNES, and Genesis weren't black and white, we used to not care.


More power to you if you really think so. I dun like it. GTA IV Looks all washed out and blocky on a HD LCD to me.

uhhh you're only 4 years older than I am... my brothers and I owned those consoles, so i've experienced the NES and SNES and Genesis as well.

I kinda agree with you there, about how we didn't have to do all these crazy configurations just to get the best experience but, HDTV's is the next biggest change since B&W to color tubes back in mid 60's. I bet our hippy parents had similar problems with the change.

EDIT: Games on 360 are natively 720p but, it's also not restricted to the output of your TV screen. Why? Because the 360 can and does (as long as you specify in your console's settings) upscale it to match your tv's resolution, it uses some internal digital scaler or something.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

Aren't u like 14? Sat's like 30 somethingish I think.

 

[ailevation]

naw i'm sure im not in your age group. saturo's profile says hes 24, do the math.

 

[Barney Fife]

I bet our hippy parents had similar problems with the change.

Yes they did: Figuring out, which is the organic plant (Weed, Joint, River, Hashish) has the best colors. :angel:

 

[Saturos]

uhhh you're only 4 years older than I am... my brothers and I owned those consoles, so i've experienced the NES and SNES and Genesis as well.

I kinda agree with you there, about how we didn't have to do all these crazy configurations just to get the best experience but, HDTV's is the next biggest change since B&W to color tubes back in mid 60's. I bet our hippy parents had similar problems with the change.

EDIT: Games on 360 are natively 720p but, it's also not restricted to the output of your TV screen. Why? Because the 360 can and does (as long as you specify in your console's settings) upscale it to match your tv's resolution, it uses some internal digital scaler or something.

Yeah, I'm only 24, but I like to exaggerate about it though with those, "back in my day" stories. I love poking at younger generations of gamers, I understand why older people do it all the time with other things. :> BTW, a four year difference would be HUGE age gap for high school students. I know at around 20 or so it doesn't really matter anymore when your in college and working, but still.

Also, Black & White to color was a much larger difference than standard to HD, and all it required was to have a color TV. There probably wasn't much problem with that with the hipster parents of the day other than having the money to afford one.

About the internal scaler, maybe it just works better with some games than it does others. Another point to strengthen the above issue. Games and 3D technology become increasingly more complicated, which means so do configurations that support them. We need a simpler method to streamline everything together is what I'm saying. Although I understand the technologies fairly well, I'm getting sick of explaining it to everyone else who's not in the know, and I hate messing around with a bunch of cables, HD resolutions, contrast, etc. to get a simple pleasure in before bedtime. I guess it all boils down to laziness really. Which is probably why I've been neglecting my PC of late too. I just get tired of messing with things after a while, and LCD/HD compatibility or my LCD monitor failing to live up to my expectations just happened to get on my nerves a few nights ago.

Maybe I'm just slowly becoming, *GASP* a casual gamer. *cough*

 

[McGooTheWise]

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3486473&CatId=3774

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[Saturos]

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3486473&CatId=3774

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I wish monitors like these were in an affordable range like this 2 and a half years ago. I could've had a better one today. :hmph:

 

[McGooTheWise]

I have that one. It kicks major ass. All my friends are jealous of it.

 

[Saturos]

So my monitor is finally kaput for good. :frown:

It seems it has something to do with it's circuitry as it doesn't seem to be getting any signals. Similar to what Asus suggested except not limited to merely a DVI issue. The backlight still works though.

Anyways, before it went out permanently, I disabled Window's Terminal Services since I don't use logons in order to try to save process time for perfomance. (I'm always looking for tweaks )

Well, for some reason user logons seem crucial for this monitor to get a proper signal, (sleep/wake doesn't work anymore) and now I'm stuck with a paperweight until I get a new one this weekend.

Cheap garbage. F**k you and your couch ViewSonic! I'm thinking about getting a Sony this time.

 

[-Psy-]

I had a Viewsonic and had no problems with it. There's no need to get pissed off simply because you got a faulty monitor. It happens with pretty much every manufacturer of any product.

 

[DEATH eVADER]

I've got a Samsung LCD close to four years now. Haven't had a single problem yet.

I've had a viewsonic LCD for upto 3 years

 

[kupocake]

Can you even buy CRTs anymore? Sure yours has lasted for several years. If it hadn't, you would have been forced to buy an LCD screen like the rest of us.

No big complaints from my 17" Viewsonic monitor of 3+ years here, and the two bad things that did happen were no fault of the manufacturers, and happened when I still lived with my parents, so they clearly never effected the normal operation of the unit. I'll probably buy viewsonic when I go 1080 widescreen with a second GFX card, hopefully next year.

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a: I found a couple of insects crawling under the screen once, one of them died and can still be seen as a blurry mark near the centre of the screen.
b: my mum polished the anti-glare coating and smeared it all over the place

 

[Saturos]

So I got a new monitor. This time a Samsung LCD.

Wish I had a larger desk and the time to purchase a flat-CRT online from TigerDirect or NewEgg though.

Specs:

1440x900 TFT-LCD widescreen
2ms response time
Dynamic Contrast 8000:1
DVI-D with HDCP

I got it at Office Depot for $260 with a mail-in rebate of $30.

Just one question, is 1440x900 basically the "widescreen" version of the 1280x1024 standard resolution? Furthermore, no place around here even sells standard resolution LCD's anymore. That makes me sad. Widescreen is too much for my eyes.

At least my PC games look as great as ever. Only complaint so far is that the stand is a little too short for my desk. I've been getting the urge to hunch over as my old ViewSonic monitor had a much taller stand.

 

[kupocake]

ust one question, is 1440x900 basically the "widescreen" version of the 1280x1024 standard resolution?

It's the standard for sub 20" monitors. 20" to 22" and the standard is 1680x1050. Anything larger and 1920x1200 (which doesn't strictly conform to the 1080i HD format).

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by asking if 1440x900 is the widescreen version of 1280x1024. Price wise, I paid ?250 for a 1280x1024 monitor in 2004, so I'd be saying no as i'd be looking to get a high range 22" or low range 24" monitor for that price. But you can't compare it exactly like that, and many people got 1280 monitors for a lot less than that in the years following.

I suppose 1440x900 is the closest popular widescreen resolution in terms of individual pixels (1440 has 1,296,000, 1280 has 1,310,720) so in that way it's the closest you'd get for an equivalent swap. But as for what people are typically buying, I wouldn't know. I think people are erring towards monitors larger than 20" and 1680x1050 resolutions these days.