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Alright, I just gotta ask this question that has been bugging me for years, and i just wanna know you opinion. Its almost been a year since one of my friends was shot, and paralyzed by gangs. He wasn't a cholo or anything, he was just minding his own, next thing you know, i'm runnin out to help him.

The question i have been asking is, why does our country send money and funds to other places, but not much for our own country? Why do we fight hunger and poverty in other places, but home? Why solve a problem accorss the street, when there's one in your house?

I live in LA (Hell A) and theres been a war on our streets for fuggin years, and only a few have tried to help. My brother's car was stolen recently, and things just keep getting worse. There are families with small homes the size of a kitchen and have a family of 5 living in it. Many don't have homes at all. I worry everyday hoping that my mother (who is a social worker in LA) and my brother (LAPD) come home safe every night.

I just keep wondering why? Why no help here, in our own turf? I know i kinda sound a bit foolish for saying this, but i've just been going through so much crap within the past year and i just had to ask this question, see what others think.
 
I am very sorry about your friend. I am not sure what you mean by contries not funding thier cities, unfourtanatley...
 
I feel the same way about here.

I think the main reason why governments send so much aid to other places, is that it makes them look good in front of all the people here who live affluent lives, and don't see the problems in their own garden. The kind of people who give to charity so they don't feel guilty.
 
It's a long shot...but you can try to write letters to any politician or authority figure. Send it to your mayor, governor, newspaper, television station, radio station, and possibly even Bush. You'll get some help probably, but don't count on it. Too many people working on making themselves look good in the public's view.
 
That's pretty sad. I'm happy to say that the government is pretty responsible in that way here (as far as I know). There've been very few occasions when it's seemed like they have given to aid or anything merely to save face, as they don't make a big hubbub over it.

Anyway, you should definitely try to kick up a fuss about it. That's pretty unnaceptable.
 
I'd like one of these whingers to point me in the direction of somebody here in England who is either starving, being tortured, dying from malaria, being forced to join an army at age 10.......

Seriously, some people need to get out and explore the world. Go somewhere poor, then you'll have an answer to your question.
 
I think the question you should be asking is why does your Government spend billions on arms every year to make war(which far out-weighs any aid going out) instead of trying to acually solve these problems at home?

This isn't solely a U.S. problem it goes for most countries out there which has lead to us being stuck in a vicious circle. No one wants to cut weapon spending because other countries are continuing to spend money on weapons.
 
Parrot of doom said:
I'd like one of these whingers to point me in the direction of somebody here in England who is either starving, being tortured, dying from malaria, being forced to join an army at age 10.......

Seriously, some people need to get out and explore the world. Go somewhere poor, then you'll have an answer to your question.

Go to any city and you can see a hundred starving people. Ok maybe nobody is being forced to join the army, but have you heard of the child prostitution that goes on in this country? Underage girls have been bought from other countries and used over here to make money.

Nobody is saying we shouldn't help others, but trying to lift a man off the ground with a lame hand, won't do anyone any good.
 
Farrowlesparrow said:
Go to any city and you can see a hundred starving people. Ok maybe nobody is being forced to join the army, but have you heard of the child prostitution that goes on in this country? Underage girls have been bought from other countries and used over here to make money.

Nobody is saying we shouldn't help others, but trying to lift a man off the ground with a lame hand, won't do anyone any good.

Oh yes, and of course the authorities tolerate this. They turn a blind eye, don't they?

And for those 'starving' people, comparing folk who have decided not to bother with life any more with people who just plain can't get food from anywhere is offensive.
 
If i was prime minister, i would cut the money going to places like Africa, and start spending it on centres in London, Manchester, Liverpool, etc, where homeless people can not only get a good meal and shelter and cleaned up, but can also enroll themselves in college and sort their lives out. Also, invest the money in new jobs, attract big businesses to the area, renovate the run down areas of the country, and clean the country up. Of course, people like Bono, Bob Geldof, etc, would rather see money spent in Africa, but why should British taxes go on African people, when there are so many problems in England. Yes, money should go to help the needy all over the world, but a large portion of money should be spent to help the homeless in this country get back on their feet, rather than in Africa to get Africans back on their feet.

Some of the British taxes would still go to Africa, but just not as much, and there will still be charities working over in Africa.
 
until we sort out the problems here, the should close the feckin book. (american history X)
 
Razor said:
If i was prime minister, i would cut the money going to places like Africa, and start spending it on centres in London, Manchester, Liverpool, etc, where homeless people can not only get a good meal and shelter and cleaned up, but can also enroll themselves in college and sort their lives out. Also, invest the money in new jobs, attract big businesses to the area, renovate the run down areas of the country, and clean the country up. Of course, people like Bono, Bob Geldof, etc, would rather see money spent in Africa, but why should British taxes go on African people, when there are so many problems in England. Yes, money should go to help the needy all over the world, but a large portion of money should be spent to help the homeless in this country get back on their feet, rather than in Africa to get Africans back on their feet.

Some of the British taxes would still go to Africa, but just not as much, and there will still be charities working over in Africa.

I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not :|
 
Razor said:
If i was prime minister, i would cut the money going to places like Africa, and start spending it on centres in London, Manchester, Liverpool, etc, where homeless people can not only get a good meal and shelter and cleaned up, but can also enroll themselves in college and sort their lives out. Also, invest the money in new jobs, attract big businesses to the area, renovate the run down areas of the country, and clean the country up. Of course, people like Bono, Bob Geldof, etc, would rather see money spent in Africa, but why should British taxes go on African people, when there are so many problems in England. Yes, money should go to help the needy all over the world, but a large portion of money should be spent to help the homeless in this country get back on their feet, rather than in Africa to get Africans back on their feet.

Some of the British taxes would still go to Africa, but just not as much, and there will still be charities working over in Africa.


Yeah....and of course all the money made in Britian (and the tax derived from it) is solely from the use of Britain's own natural resources and labour. Damn those lazy Africans stealing our hard-earned cash!
 
poo poo head said:
Alright, I just gotta ask this question that has been bugging me for years, and i just wanna know you opinion. Its almost been a year since one of my friends was shot, and paralyzed by gangs. He wasn't a cholo or anything, he was just minding his own, next thing you know, i'm runnin out to help him.

The question i have been asking is, why does our country send money and funds to other places, but not much for our own country? Why do we fight hunger and poverty in other places, but home? Why solve a problem accorss the street, when there's one in your house?

I live in LA (Hell A) and theres been a war on our streets for fuggin years, and only a few have tried to help. My brother's car was stolen recently, and things just keep getting worse. There are families with small homes the size of a kitchen and have a family of 5 living in it. Many don't have homes at all. I worry everyday hoping that my mother (who is a social worker in LA) and my brother (LAPD) come home safe every night.

I just keep wondering why? Why no help here, in our own turf? I know i kinda sound a bit foolish for saying this, but i've just been going through so much crap within the past year and i just had to ask this question, see what others think.
Well, as far as home business goes, more money spent on crime and less on socialism would help so very much. Sending checks to crackwhores who spend it on more drugs and keep having kids is foolish and thievery of tax payer money. Tackling the crime head on will improve everything.
 
I agree, I think the US should be more focused internally.
 
Bad^Hat said:
I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not :|


No, i am not, what makes you think i am.

When Britain has so many internal problems, why should more and more money be going to Africa? There are charities that help with African aid already. I would invest money in education, the nhs, the police.
 
I think your being selfish, after all your country (and most other richer countries) are screwing these people over so the least the government can do is give them aid. You overstate how much aid is given, in fact is bugger all and more should be given. If you want more spend on the country stop money being wasted on defence.
 
Fat Tony! said:
I think your being selfish, after all your country (and most other richer countries) are screwing these people over so the least the government can do is give them aid. You overstate how much aid is given, in fact is bugger all and more should be given. If you want more spend on the country stop money being wasted on defence.
He is referring to aid such as that sent to Egypt and other countries. Money spent in Iraq, Afghanistan on rebuilding or in other places where we are spending money in return for a favor or other involvement is definately called for. But the aid we give to countless nations just for "developement or stability aid" is rediculous. We waste too much money with that.
 
No thats not true at all, its not a waste these people need the money after all with paying interest of debts to the U.S and other countries they need to find some way of paying it. How can you be so selfish... your country is fully developed, its wealthy, it has political power but you complain about a few hot spots that are poor, well that its capitalism for you it's tough and doensn't give a shit. Aid is far from being a waste
 
Agreed Tony.


Since when was it a waste of money to save lives and make lives beter. What does distance matter?


Alot of these developing countries pay countries like the UK large sums of money every year in national debt. Getting rid of some of that will make a huge difference alone.
 
Fat Tony! said:
No thats not true at all, its not a waste these people need the money after all with paying interest of debts to the U.S and other countries they need to find some way of paying it. How can you be so selfish... your country is fully developed, its wealthy, it has political power but you complain about a few hot spots that are poor, well that its capitalism for you it's tough and doensn't give a shit. Aid is far from being a waste

That is why the debt is being wiped out completely by the g7 nations. Money should still be donated to Africa, but when your own people are suffering on the streets, dying from diseases, living in slums, etc, why shouldn't some of the money be diverted back to help out our own countries.
 
Parrot of doom said:
Oh yes, and of course the authorities tolerate this. They turn a blind eye, don't they?

And for those 'starving' people, comparing folk who have decided not to bother with life any more with people who just plain can't get food from anywhere is offensive.

No they don't. Like I said, nobody is saying we shouldn't give aid. All I am saying is that we need to sort ourselves out, before we go off to other countries and show them how to live. The police do try to tackle the crimes, but they aren't given the resources they need. The problem we have at the moment, is management of funds...or missmanagement. Goverments throw money away into schemes that are there to please. They said they will donate all this money to the Tsunami aid effort, but they didn't state where the money would go precisesly. There were talks held a while back about how the money was to be spent, but all that led to was statements of good intentions.

Who am I offending when I talk about people in this country who're starving? I'm not talking about those who've "given up on life" though, theres a whole lot more to it than that. There are actually people who've been segregated from society for one reason or another, and they simply can't get back on the 'ladder' of supporting themselves.
 
Bumpin....

Yeah so heres a story that just happened recently to one of the families my mom works with. The family lived in one of the housing projects in Hell A. They were having a baptismal party outside with a few relatives and loved ones. Then in comes 8 guys, armed with shotguns, and telling everyone to get down. They robbed and ransacked everyone! They took money, jewelry, anything worth money, and took off. And one more thing, one of the robbers was only...8!

WTF has this world come too. This is a true ****in story! No one still helps.
 
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