"insurgents" kill at least 25.

[KoreBolteR]

"insurgents" as some of you call them, have killed 25 innocents again, see this pattern is going on and on and i jus wanted to see what you all thought of this story

see they obviously dont want the iraqis to live free and control thier own land, attacking police officers and civilians.
the police officers just want to make iraq better for future generations for god sake..

i dont know why BBC call them "insurgents" tho, these are actions of dirty, evil terrorists.

 

[Kangy]

Maybe they don't believe the country is actually free? Maybe they didn't actually mind Saddam that much?

I never condone the murder of innocents, but you'd really have to ask them why they're insurgents.

 

[No Limit]

Only 25? Please, they have been killing like this since we invaded so I fail to see how this is a story.

 

[The Monkey]

They killed 150 some days ago. I hate to say it, but what's the big deal? Terrorists are some of the worst people on earth, we know, but I don't see the point.

 

[burner69]

They targetted the police. The police being formed by the west. The west that they despise, for obvious reasons.

While I think it's totally wrong to do, it is not because they don't want freedom, it's because they don't believe this is going to be freedom, because it is being orchastrated by the same people who've screwed them and their fellow people over many many times.

Imagine if, say, Alaska had a giant army, invaded your country claiming you had terrorists there, and had WMDs - killed thousands of innocents, captured and tortured many more, overthrew the current leader then said; don't worry, we'll make your country all peacful and nice. You're not likely to believe them now are you? Especially if this invading Alaskan army were notorious for screwing up other countries, and had ideals that came in direct conflict with your own.

 

[CptStern]

they killed 33 iraqis and 2 US marines yesterday, 54 odd a few days before that, a couple of dozen before that ...this is ongoing. If anything, this thread could turn out to be just another example of how things arent all that kosher in iraq, despite reassuances from public figureheads and conservative mouthpieces

 

[kirovman]

The so called insurgents, they are Saddam's ex secret police, they are simply carrying on the job they did so well before the war...kidnapping innocents, torturing, beheading, etc. Ony when they did it before the war it was legal and not widely publicised.

 

[No Limit]

The so called insurgents, they are Saddam's ex secret police, they are simply carrying on the job they did so well before the war...kidnapping innocents, torturing, beheading, etc. Ony when they did it before the war it was legal and not widely publicised.

You think all the terrorist activity in Iraq is done by Saddam's ex secret police? Boy, you really need to stop watching Fox.

 

[burner69]

The so called insurgents, they are Saddam's ex secret police, they are simply carrying on the job they did so well before the war...kidnapping innocents, torturing, beheading, etc. Ony when they did it before the war it was legal and not widely publicised.

Untrue.
The beheadings are being done by one fanatical group led by some Abu guy.
The vast majority of the rest are just people who either believe their country has been invaded and overtaken by an enemy, or that this is the start of the take-over of the Middle East, and they are fighting that enemy.

 

[kirovman]

I don't get fox. I get BBC, CNN and sky news (probably a bit like fox).

I just think that the leadership of this group couldn't have come from nowhere, they must have had a bit of training, whether from secret police or iraqi army, I dunno.

 

[burner69]

I don't get fox. I get BBC, CNN and sky news (probably a bit like fox).

I just think that the leadership of this group couldn't have come from nowhere, they must have had a bit of training, whether from secret police or iraqi army, I dunno.

There's been fanatical people knocking about in the Middle East forever. It's no new thing. They train themselves, perhaps getting some $$$ from wealthy people (OBL) or maybe even Saddam (although I doubt any of them are currently writing out pay cheques)

 

[CptStern]

the truth is that there are hundreds of groups in iraq all with different goals different agendas and different methodologies. The myth is that they're all one in the same

 

[burner69]

the truth is that there are hundreds of groups in iraq all with different goals different agendas and different methodologies. The myth is that they're all one in the same

LIES! There is but one enemy! Terrorists! They are all jealous of freedom! They must all die! Rarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh (battle cry)

 

[seinfeldrules]

Maybe they didn't actually mind Saddam that much?

Because they were his henchmen, they cannot stand the idea of equality. Bottom line: They are terrorists.

 

[Deacon_]

Ehm, you occupy a country for a while against alot of people's will, there will be riots. American guided missiles and semi-carpet bombing have killed some 2-300 000 Iraqi children from 1990 to now.
Bah.

 

[burner69]

Because they were his henchmen, they cannot stand the idea of equality. Bottom line: They are terrorists.

Yes, terrorists can't stand freedom that's why they attacked the US on 9/11, that's why they're fighting the coalition in Iraq. Jealous ppl, tsk, I don't knooow

 

[KoreBolteR]

Untrue.
The beheadings are being done by one fanatical group led by some Abu guy.
The vast majority of the rest are just people who either believe their country has been invaded and overtaken by an enemy, or that this is the start of the take-over of the Middle East, and they are fighting that enemy.

how can they possibly think they have been invaded by an enemy?!!?! the Coalition give thier children sweets and talk nicely to the locals, its jus the major terrorists are making up bs about "allah" saying he wants to kill all americans, and all the people who are asked to join, end up as terrorists, because they are brainwashed into thinking allah wants them to do it. friggin religion

abu al zarqawi i think you was talking about, what a spaz.
beheading innocent people and blowing up iraqi children and women.

the truth is that there are hundreds of groups in iraq all with different goals different agendas and different methodologies. The myth is that they're all one in the same

Yes, they are all the same, thier ambition is to stop iraq being a free nation, where all citizens are happy, and feel stabalized by an iraqi police force and government.
all of them are terrorists, bowing down to abu al zarqawi, thats as good as "one" group for me.

 

[Nofuture]

how can they possibly think they have been invaded by an enemy?!!?!

Considering all that evil what the US have done to their nation, easily.

the Coalition give thier children sweets and talk nicely to the locals

Bs!

Still remember that article about pushing a cilivilian into river, letting him drown and laugthing (!) while this young man was dying?! :flame:

 

[burner69]

how can they possibly think they have been invaded by an enemy?!!?! the Coalition give thier children sweets and talk nicely to the locals, its jus the major terrorists are making up bs about "allah" saying he wants to kill all americans, and all the people who are asked to join, end up as terrorists, because they are brainwashed into thinking allah wants them to do it. friggin religion

abu al zarqawi i think you was talking about, what a spaz.
beheading innocent people and blowing up iraqi children and women.

Yes, they are all the same, thier ambition is to stop iraq being a free nation, where all citizens are happy, and feel stabalized by an iraqi police force and government.
all of them are terrorists, bowing down to abu al zarqawi, thats as good as "one" group for me.

I mean this sincerely... are you being sarcastic?

First bold bit: And killing several thousand innocent people. Of course that's after all the damage done before the war, which Stern knows more about than me.

Second B B: Lies, with absolutely no evidence for, yet repeated over and over in the media. A few fanatics over there believe that they should rid the world of the west, the majority are fighting people who have invaded their land. That's like stabbing somebody, then when they punch you saying they were clearly jealous of your lovely new shoes.

Third BB: Agreed, though I'd use a stronger word.

Fourth: A minority do this, and they by no means believe that Iraq is going to be happy and good and free. They believe they will be taken over by the horrible ideals of the west (not freedom; we're talking secularism, loss of moral standards, promiscuarity, but probably mainly the fact that the West has already started placing restrictions on Iraq that benefit our wallets, while screwing Iraq over.
I like it how with Bush's wars its all "This is our idea, anyone who opposes it is evil." When as everyone knows, there's never one answer to anything.

5th: They... don't.

I'm sorry if you were joking, the smiley face at the end made me wonder... but... I dunno. I hope you were joking!

 

[KoreBolteR]

i was slightly overreacting when i wrote this :thumbs: