Iran racial badges propaganda exposed

The Monkey said:
Why? Because I criticize a regime that execute and torture people because they are gay?
You critised a country not the regime. I don't know how you can be patriotic of a country that does such stuff, just how I'm not at all patriotic of the UK, patriotism is pretty silly imo, but there you go.
 
Solaris said:
You critised a country not the regime. I don't know how you can be patriotic of a country that does such stuff, just how I'm not at all patriotic of the UK, patriotism is pretty silly imo, but there you go.
Yes, Iran as I country is twisted, just like South Africa as a country was twisted under Apartheid, or like Nazi Germany was twisted in the 30s.
 
Yes, Iran as I country is twisted, just like South Africa as a country was twisted under Apartheid, or like Nazi Germany was twisted in the 30s.
Both of your examples show state discrimination against ethnic majority/minority, neither are the case with Iran.
Your examples appear to be rather loaded to put it mildly.

ps- You still havent substantiated your allegation about rape within marriage, are you a racist/troll or something?
 
Monkey I agree with you :eek:
every country that doesnt seperate religon form state will have problems.
US,Iran etc...they all should do it like Turkey if all ME Countrys did it like Turkey this world would be a safer place imo.
 
SAJ said:
Both of your examples show state discrimination against ethnic majority/minority, neither are the case with Iran.
Your examples appear to be rather loaded to put it mildly.

ps- You still havent substantiated your allegation about rape within marriage, are you a racist/troll or something?

In theory it's illegal, in praxis, it's not. No one has been convicted for it in a long time, since it's next to impossible for a woman to prove that she has been raped, and even if she has proof, the judges still tend to rule in favour of the men.
Also, I wasn't saying that Iran is was bad as Apartheid South Africa or the Third Reich, I was just trying to explain my choise of words.

BTW, don't ever call me a racist again.
 
In theory it's illegal, in praxis, it's not. No one has been convicted for it in a long time, since it's next to impossible for a woman to prove that she has been raped, and even if she has proof, the judges still tend to rule in favour of the men.
Thats still not a substantiated allegation, just a qualified one. Back it up with sources please.

BTW, don't ever call me a racist again.
Or what? You'll internet-punch me? :)
No, but seriously, no one called you a racist. I just asked a pertinant and reasonable question based on the type of statements you had made.
Also, I wasn't saying that Iran is was bad as Apartheid South Africa or the Third Reich, I was just trying to explain my choise of words.
But you actually did suggest that Iran was as bad as those two rather extreme and loaded examples, which is what led me to question your motives.
 
Well, my actual sources were a series of articles from Iran in my local newspaper, where there they interviewed certain religious leaders and such. I haven't found any online numbers of how many people that have been convicted for rape inside marriage, but here some reports about the current condition of human rights in Iran from Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch.
 
Well, my actual sources were a series of articles from Iran in my local newspaper, where there they interviewed certain religious leaders and such.
So what you're saying is that your basis for the allegation of endemic marital rape in Iran .......is anecdotal (not to mention, rather nebulous).
Wow! thanks for being so honest.

I haven't found any online numbers of how many people that have been convicted for rape inside marriage,...
(uh huh)
...but here some reports about the current condition of human rights in Iran from Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch.
Which translates into "I cant find any hard evidence to back up my allegations, so here's a couple of links about some other matter". Sorry, not going to be fobbed off with a plain old bait-and-switch, thanks all the same.
 
Sharia law, as its called, is based around the Islamic faith, and can be practised in many different ways, with varying levels of severity.

Now, before I start I do not condone the punishments given in strict Islamic countries, but that is down, as someone rightly pointed out, to interpretation. It is the ruling elite that decide on this interpretation, not the religion.

I just want to wipe some of the shit the press have smeared over Islam. And no, I'm not a Muslim, I'm agnostic.

Check it out:

Marriage: A Muslim woman is under no religious obligation to marry a man she dosen't want to. In Islamic tradition a woman can ask a man to marry her, rather than this horrific oppresive "only a man should ask a woman" buisness we have here.
While a man can have multiple wives, if he does he must be able to spend enough time with each of them, and help them all out financially if needed. Also a Muslim woman can state in their marriage contract whether or not she wants her hubby to have any more wives. If she says no, he ain't.

Clothing: Argh! The horrible muslim clothing! How evil! Well, not really. The intention of the covering up is to protect a woman from the prying eyes of men. Islam, unlike the rest of the world, accepts that men are dirty buggers. Hands up here who's never checked out a girls ass in tight jeans. Nowhere does it state that all women must wear this attire, but many do, even here in the west where they're under little or no obligation to do so. However in the west, woman are forced, through advertising and celebrity culture, to wear very few clothes and barbaric uncomfortable heels! Those who don't conform to these revealing, expensive show pieces are often shunned by their fellow men, and won't be as cool or popular. Look, the holy word of the television tells us so.

Beating wives: Ah, here is a problem. Yes indeed, if a woman gets out of line she can be beaten under Islamic tradition... but wait. Well, before the beating the husband must try to find a resolution to the problems, then if it remains, sleep in another bed, but if the wife is still being troublesome he can beat her... it dosen't say how hard or anything in the Quran, but if we are to take Muhammad's example, which Muslims are supposed to, him being the final word of God and all, he mentions a symbolic striking, with a twig used for cleaning teeth. So, tap her on the head with a toothbrush. That was 1500 years ago. In our society we've had far more lenient laws up until recently with regards domestic violence.

Basically what I'm saying is don't assume that because of what you saw on Fox, or because of the way Al-Qaeda or the Taliban grossly misinterpreted the religion, don't go around saying Islam is a backward degenerate religion. Its not.

Peace
 
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