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Haha, Requiem for a Dream is like, perfect. You suck.
The only reason women aren't in combat situations in a lot of countries is 'cos of the difficulties of having mixed sex forces, it causes issues. The whole perceived weakness thing is just something pushed on them by a male dominated society and isn't helped by numptys like you pushing that idea. They're just brought up to be housewives, or office workers, and from a young age are taught that women's place isn't fighting - social conditioning. If that conditioning was removed here we could have some bad-ass female fighting force.
One of my best mates here at uni is on the england squad for girls rugby, she's very attractive and she'd kick your arse.
Girls jump at mice? Sure they do. Do you actually know a single real life girl?
Vaguely on topic: That female model scares me
She has like a pointy chin and looks so lifeless... *shudders*
The only reason women aren't in combat situations in a lot of countries is 'cos of the difficulties of having mixed sex forces, it causes issues. The whole perceived weakness thing is just something pushed on them by a male dominated society and isn't helped by numptys like you pushing that idea. They're just brought up to be housewives, or office workers, and from a young age are taught that women's place isn't fighting - social conditioning. If that conditioning was removed here we could have some bad-ass female fighting force.
One of my best mates here at uni is on the england squad for girls rugby, she's very attractive and she'd kick your arse.
Girls jump at mice? Sure they do. Do you actually know a single real life girl?
Vaguely on topic: That female model scares me
She has like a pointy chin and looks so lifeless... *shudders*Glo-Boy said:
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They take snapshots and videos. Ive seen it on TV, Lots of it. And i have not really seen any girls in combat except for them working in some type of medical
building.
Over 90% of Men make up an Army, If women were better at combat situations than it would be the other way around, but its not now EVERYBODY STFU
lol, ya think so? 90% of the army = men because women are only recently joining up in the army, as to the male-society being in control and putting women "in the kitchen" rather than giving them jobs.
You should read more history man, since the middle-ages women have been put into a "house-wife" role, and 20 years of "female work-promotion" isnt going to change society overnight. As the major religions all put women in "house-wife" roles, that didnt really help alot either.
The fact that more and more are signing up, and in countries with obligated service ( Israel for instance ) for both sexes proves that women can do the same job.
Problem is mixed sexes infantry divisions wont work as men are fairly sexist and there would be alot of problems coming from it ( hence the current splitup ).
Nevertheless the world is changing.
ps, 90% of the people signing up for the army = men, maybe that makes up for your % huh? It all comes down to societies view of the world.
You should read more history man, since the middle-ages women have been put into a "house-wife" role, and 20 years of "female work-promotion" isnt going to change society overnight. As the major religions all put women in "house-wife" roles, that didnt really help alot either.
The fact that more and more are signing up, and in countries with obligated service ( Israel for instance ) for both sexes proves that women can do the same job.
Problem is mixed sexes infantry divisions wont work as men are fairly sexist and there would be alot of problems coming from it ( hence the current splitup ).
Nevertheless the world is changing.
ps, 90% of the people signing up for the army = men, maybe that makes up for your % huh? It all comes down to societies view of the world.
stress? glo boy, give birth sometime. Men are much higher stressed then women.
natural strength is largly dependent on genetics. sad to say i dated a girl once that was much more aggressive and violent then i am, it really got on my nerves. not to say if we put on the gloves i couldn't have taken her down, but she liked to wrestle and was VERY strong.
women not being in combat is very wrong. And those of you talking about glo boy being from the 1800's are also wrong. the "lady" and the gentleman, isn't that old.
study history a bit more, you'll find that women can be ruthless as much as men. Queens who killed just like any king.
i don't think women should be in combat with men, for reasons stated by others being its a messed up situation, but as fighter pilots, astronauts, launching missles, hell they're prolly more capable then men.
women, even in ww2, were on the front lines, as they are now. women died in combat in iraq, even when they were mostly nurses, they were in the front line saving soldiers lives. hard to imagine something more stressful then trying to keep a room full of people from bleeding to death.
natural strength is largly dependent on genetics. sad to say i dated a girl once that was much more aggressive and violent then i am, it really got on my nerves. not to say if we put on the gloves i couldn't have taken her down, but she liked to wrestle and was VERY strong.
women not being in combat is very wrong. And those of you talking about glo boy being from the 1800's are also wrong. the "lady" and the gentleman, isn't that old.
study history a bit more, you'll find that women can be ruthless as much as men. Queens who killed just like any king.
i don't think women should be in combat with men, for reasons stated by others being its a messed up situation, but as fighter pilots, astronauts, launching missles, hell they're prolly more capable then men.
women, even in ww2, were on the front lines, as they are now. women died in combat in iraq, even when they were mostly nurses, they were in the front line saving soldiers lives. hard to imagine something more stressful then trying to keep a room full of people from bleeding to death.
No, I'm busy getting an education and making something of myself besides a machine gunner.
Anyway, it's true that women have a higher pain tolerance than men for sure. But they still are unable to think as well as men under the stress of combat, it's just the way it is. There are other rules that factor in as well, but that's one of the major ones.
Anyway, it's true that women have a higher pain tolerance than men for sure. But they still are unable to think as well as men under the stress of combat, it's just the way it is. There are other rules that factor in as well, but that's one of the major ones.
Ah, so now we've gone through a list of your claims, and they've all been put down, until there's finally only 1 left:
Stress of combat? -> Bullets flying around, explosions near etc?
Thats something personal man, some men piss their pants, some die of a heart-attack, some shrivel in a corner and cry, some go insane, panic and only a few acts like hero's. Its not called stress of combat, its called the horrors of war.
Cmon dude, even you should see that "hero's" or people that can even deal with "the stress of combat" are @ randomly based on their character and not sex.
It all comes down to : can you keep it calm under a panic situation. And in that dude, it matters not if your a guy or girl..
Stress of combat? -> Bullets flying around, explosions near etc?
Thats something personal man, some men piss their pants, some die of a heart-attack, some shrivel in a corner and cry, some go insane, panic and only a few acts like hero's. Its not called stress of combat, its called the horrors of war.
Cmon dude, even you should see that "hero's" or people that can even deal with "the stress of combat" are @ randomly based on their character and not sex.
It all comes down to : can you keep it calm under a panic situation. And in that dude, it matters not if your a guy or girl..
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Says you. Have you got any proof? No. Do many armed forces around the world disagree with you? Yes.Glo-Boy said:
Actually being responsible for other people's lives can be far more stressful, contrary to popular belief the major driving force behind actions is not self-preservation. From a personal perspective, my mum deals with a hellava lot more stress than my dad (she raises the children and organises my stepdad's company, if she messes up we have no money for food for 7 kids), and yet my dad is the one who has to go out drinking all the time to cope.Glo-Boy said:
As for strength... I've been owned by a few girls in mano-a-mano (so to speak) situations... most of the girls I know are weak but those exceptions prove that they can be strong. Oh, and my mum can beat my dad ****less.
ah, so now we've moved onto making logical decisions under stress???
This just keeps getting better and better.
Switching arguments etc.
Ok, so lets discuss making logical decisions. And lets narrow it down so we dont hop onto another topic.
-Logical decisions in general, or only under stress?
This just keeps getting better and better.
Switching arguments etc.
Ok, so lets discuss making logical decisions. And lets narrow it down so we dont hop onto another topic.
-Logical decisions in general, or only under stress?
Ome_Vince said:ah, so now we've moved onto making logical decisions under stress???
This just keeps getting better and better.
Switching arguments etc.
Ok, so lets discuss making logical decisions. And lets narrow it down so we dont hop onto another topic.
-Logical decisions in general, or only under stress?
Logical decisions under stress. Not just stress itself. It it not argument hopping.
http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usawc/Parameters/01summer/simons.htm
Ok i'd like to thank you man, i just read that huge freekin article , and all it said was what we've talked about all those pages:
The whole article claims women/male bonding wont work because of men not being able to naturally "forget" they are men, and distraction would occur.
I'd like to know how this affects the females psyche as you claimed? This has nothing to do with women, but everything to do with MEN.
hehe, so if men are distracted by women, its because women cant fight?
Ok, and as for subject hopping, here's a nice list of your greatest moments:
This one is very smart:
This one is great too:
Another one about psysical conditions:
Ok, so where is this circusride gonna take us now?? As i said before, most of your arguments are now gone, until 1 is left, which you back up with an article that imo doesnt say ANYTHING about women thinking logically under stress, it only states the mental gap between men and women and how that "couldnt" be fixed.
I'm actually going to waste time rereading this random internet article again to try to find between the lines somewhere your argument lol,.
, and all it said was what we've talked about all those pages:The whole article claims women/male bonding wont work because of men not being able to naturally "forget" they are men, and distraction would occur.
I'd like to know how this affects the females psyche as you claimed? This has nothing to do with women, but everything to do with MEN.
hehe, so if men are distracted by women, its because women cant fight?
Ok, and as for subject hopping, here's a nice list of your greatest moments:
This one is very smart:
This one is great too:
Another one about psysical conditions:
Ok, so where is this circusride gonna take us now?? As i said before, most of your arguments are now gone, until 1 is left, which you back up with an article that imo doesnt say ANYTHING about women thinking logically under stress, it only states the mental gap between men and women and how that "couldnt" be fixed.
I'm actually going to waste time rereading this random internet article again to try to find between the lines somewhere your argument lol,.
Somehow I think this topic has gotten slightly OFF-Topic.
This isn't a thread to debate women in the military. There are currently women in many of the armies of the nations of the world and they all contribute a great role to them. Can we leave it at that and discuss the reason this thread exists.
If you don't like the woman model then feel free to comment about it don't go off on a several page thread about this nonense, instead let us know how to improve. If you're like me and like the model then post your opinion too, it'll give us the confidence to continue.
To everyone else that has commented on our mod we thankyou and hope you have patience to wait for our first release, believe me, it's going to be great
This isn't a thread to debate women in the military. There are currently women in many of the armies of the nations of the world and they all contribute a great role to them. Can we leave it at that and discuss the reason this thread exists.
If you don't like the woman model then feel free to comment about it don't go off on a several page thread about this nonense, instead let us know how to improve. If you're like me and like the model then post your opinion too, it'll give us the confidence to continue.
To everyone else that has commented on our mod we thankyou and hope you have patience to wait for our first release, believe me, it's going to be great
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Aye, I agree with Pilo.
Well first of all Glo-boy is the type of dude that would never get with a chick cause of his attitude but mostly because he probably sits on his PC all day and doesnt get out.
And man are those Israeli and Italian army chicks HOT! Id Let them serve my country any day... lol anywa
Iron Grip looks great, one of the real professional looking mods out there. Cant wait for it to be released.
And man are those Israeli and Italian army chicks HOT! Id Let them serve my country any day... lol anywa
Iron Grip looks great, one of the real professional looking mods out there. Cant wait for it to be released.
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"while the Resistance side play an FPS type of game play; the Rahmos side only contains one main player- the General."
So its mainly going to be human players versus bots and one other human player? I wonder how thats going to work out.
So its mainly going to be human players versus bots and one other human player? I wonder how thats going to work out.
