Is atheism a religion?

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Why is it that no one seems to think that Atheism and Satanism are forms of religion? (I personally am neither, but I keep thinking about this) Christianity, and Buddhism are recognised religions, but people that are Satanists aren't? Religion is both sides of the spectrum right? The good and the bad? Or am I wrong and everyone is just crazy?
 
Originally posted by Tak
Why is it that no one seems to think that Atheism and Satanism are forms of religion? (I personally am neither, but I keep thinking about this) Christianity, and Buddhism are recognised religions, but people that are Satanists aren't? Religion is both sides of the spectrum right? The good and the bad? Or am I wrong and everyone is just crazy?
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Because atheism is lack of religion .. it can't be a religion. You don't do anything normally associated with religion.

And Satanism isn't really taken seriously because it was invented by a guy who looks like Kane from C&C.
 
religion is hard to define....people don't know how to define it, so there's always confusion about these types of things...

imo:

atheism is the belief that there is no higher power or creator...so it's sort of a religion (belief system), but most religions are defined by their rituals (church, praying, meditation, etc) and moral code...which atheism does not provide.

satanism is definitely a religion...it has rituals and a moral code and all the other things that make up a religion.

religion doesn't mean good or bad...it's just a belief system supported by rituals and gatherings with other people that believe the same things as you do.
 
Your wrong and crazy. Satanism is worshipping the devil, athiesm is the absence of belief in any god. Meaning if you are not introduced to the concept of god your athiest by default, so you are literally athiest when your young intil your old enough to sing those hyms and understand the concept of whatever religion. I dont see how you get off on comparing the 2, is it because athiest(which i am) supposedly dont have any morals? Im not flaming just wondering cause i get that alot.
 
A bit off-topic, but I think this is amusing:

Census questions on religion aren't perfect. In 2001, the governments of Australia, Britain, Canada and New Zealand discovered via census responses that more than half a million Jedi Knights reside within their borders. To judge by the numbers, followers of the faith of Star Wars outnumber Jews in Britain and New Zealand.
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Re: Re: Is atheism a religion?

Originally posted by LoneDeranger
And Satanism isn't really taken seriously because it was invented by a guy who looks like Kane from C&C.
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as far as i know, satanism wasn't created by some guy...do you have proof of that?

and i take it seriously even if i don't agree with it... if someone told me they were a satanist, i wouldn't think: "pffft...that's not a religion"

some basic satanic beliefs can be found here:
http://www.satanism101.com/

yay for google :p
 
Originally posted by mchammer75040
Your wrong and crazy. Satanism is worshipping the devil, athiesm is the absence of belief in any god. Meaning if you are not introduced to the concept of god your athiest by default, so you are literally athiest when your young intil your old enough to sing those hyms and understand the concept of whatever religion. I dont see how you get off on comparing the 2, is it because athiest(which i am) supposedly dont have any morals? Im not flaming just wondering cause i get that alot.
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in what way did he say that you didn't have any morals because you are atheist? he said no such thing. he just said you don't do any of the things normally associated with religion...i.e. rituals

people associate atheism with lack of morals because they associate their own morals with their religion...and by their logic you don't have a religion so you can't have any morals...it's dumb but that's how some people think.
 
Re: Re: Re: Is atheism a religion?

Originally posted by Maskirovka
as far as i know, satanism wasn't created by some guy...do you have proof of that?

and i take it seriously even if i don't agree with it... if someone told me they were a satanist, i wouldn't think: "pffft...that's not a religion"

some basic satanic beliefs can be found here:
http://www.satanism101.com/

yay for google :p
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Well, all their literature points to books written by Anton Szandor Lavey, who does in fact look like Kane from C&C according to the google image search (I have done my homework on this 6 years ago, thank you :) )

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Anton+Szandor+Lavey

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=kane+command
 
Originally posted by Maskirovka
in what way did he say that you didn't have any morals because you are atheist? he said no such thing. he just said you don't do any of the things normally associated with religion...i.e. rituals
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Well I picked up from his post that satanism and athiesm are labeled as "bad":

""Why is it that no one seems to think that Atheism and Satanism are forms of religion?

Religion is both sides of the spectrum right? The good and the bad? ""

Maybe i just thought atheism was just implyed, but thats how i felt he was saying when i read that, if im wrong Tak say so.
 
ok...good to know :p

...i wasn't saying you were wrong...i just never heard that before, and i was making sure you weren't just talking out of your ass :D
 
Originally posted by mchammer75040
I dont see how you get off on comparing the 2, is it because athiest(which i am) supposedly dont have any morals? Im not flaming just wondering cause i get that alot.
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He said atheism doesn't provide morals. Meaning you get your morals from yourself and not from your religion. I've always considered atheism lack of religion. As for Satanism, it is most definately is a religion.
 
mchammer....he was asking why nobody considers them to be religions...in what way does that portray them negatively?

i read that he was saying he thinks they're religions (or isn't sure if they are but thinks they might be) and is wondering why most people don't think they are.
 
Originally posted by ElFuhrer
I've always considered atheism lack of religion.
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atheism is the belief that there is no God or gods or any supreme being...not a lack of religion.

some religions don't have any gods...

like i said, religion is a belief system with supporting rituals and gatherings....you could consider science a religion.
 
I can smell a flame war a brewin'.Anyways in my opinion atheism is a lack of religon.Satanism is a religion any way you look at it.
 
Originally posted by Maskirovka
atheism is the belief that there is no God or gods or any supreme being...not a lack of religion.

some religions don't have any gods...

like i said, religion is a belief system with supporting rituals and gatherings....you could consider science a religion.
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Err i wouldnt consider science a religion, heres the definition of religion:

Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
 
Wow, another General Off-Topic Battleground discussion.
I am so, not getting into this.
 
ask any person who studies religion and they will tell you that there is no one definition for religion...dictionaries just have to pick one to print.

a·the·ism
1. a. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.
b. The doctrine that there is no God or gods.

2. Godlessness; immorality.

i guess one of the definitions does include immorality...though i disagree...it's just one of those things people associate that aren't necessarily true...you can be a moral person without believing in God...duh.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=religion
a huge page...no one definition...and some of those definitions allow for science to be considered a religion.
 
The Satanism where they don't believe in Satan is stupidly named, just latched onto the name for attention

The Satanism where they actually worship Satan, in corelation to his role in Christianity, is named well, but just stupid XP. lol
 
I respect the fact that some people here are Atheists.
But some of them don't respect other religion.
CommieX, that ****ing commie wasn't religious started to bash Christianity.
 
Originally posted by GhostValkyrie
Wow, another General Off-Topic Battleground discussion.
I am so, not getting into this.
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Fingers still hurt from the US/IRAQ thread. :)
 
The name atheism sounds like some kind of relgion.
When MCHammer told me he was an atheist, I thought he was religious
 
Originally posted by Tredoslop
The name atheism sounds like some kind of relgion.
When MCHammer told me he was an atheist, I thought he was religious
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lol nope, it does sound like it though...good thing this wasnt 2000 years ago or i would have been slain easily.:x
 
/me rises from dead and pulls down GhostValkyrie's pants down...


:eek:
/me sees the terror that lurks down there:O
Now I think I want to be dead.:|
 
There are many different forms of atheism, just as there are many different forms of anything. Some atheists assert that there is no god, some contend that they are without a belief and some are purely ignorant of it all.

The base of the word atheism basically means "without god belief" , but most consider it as a "denial of god" which many atheists dont agree with of course. It would stand to reason that they would know who they are.
 
Originally posted by Tredoslop
/me rises from dead and pulls down GhostValkyrie's pants down...


:eek:
/me sees the terror that lurks down there:O
Now I think I want to be dead.:|
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Technically you pulled my pants back up.

BTW: I'm not wearing any pants.
 
well hl2 is pretty much a no-show...so we have to talk about something.


or else whoever pays for this sites bandwith is wasting there money
 
Your morals are induced into you by your culture through your day to day existence via human interaction since the day you were born, whatever your belief system, or alleged lack of. Short of being brought up in isolation, or having you memories erased beyond basic functions, you will never escape the principles of right and wrong that have been ingrained into you on a cultural level. You might not follow them, but you will be concious that you have broken them.

However I wouldn't fret about this. Cultural programming is an inherent part of nature. Society exists only on the basis of mutual acceptance of rules of behaviour. Without them as a species we wouldn't be where we are today.
 
Originally posted by GhostValkyrie
Wow, another General Off-Topic Battleground discussion.
I am so, not getting into this.
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The power of the off-Topic forum cannot be resisted.:dozey:
 
I've got a question:

How many of you out there are either athiests or agnostics who have highly religious parents or grandparents?

My grandparents on both sides of my family are adamant Christians, yet I never went to church with my parents. So when I was with my grandparents I would go to church, and when I was with my parents I wouldn't. So I got to see both sides of the religion argument.

If I actually told my grandmother I was agnostic or athiest or whatever, she would probably have a heart attack. :dozey:
 
Re: Re: Is atheism a religion?

Originally posted by LoneDeranger

And Satanism isn't really taken seriously because it was invented by a guy who looks like Kane from C&C.
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LOL:LOL: I've seen that guy.


Satanism is considered a religion by those that practice it.


I dont really think Atheism could be considered a religion because there is no orginization to it. No worship or set of ideals.
 
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