is g-man a good guy or bad guy

That's not to mention the Xenian infestation of earth.
 
I hope It's a good thing. Hope as in I want It to be. However there are many things that point the other way.

In the end it's shades of grey. It's working for It's own intentions and or It's employer's intentions. Although It might be pulling for humans.

(I tend to refer to Gman as It. I highly doubt It's Human or anything biological.)
 
i just notice something while playing hl2.

when you get to klieners lab and look at the picture the man beside kleiner looks alot like g-man. i never noticed that and maybe i'm wrong put next time you play take a look.
 
Google image search for "half-life half-life photograph science team kleiner" on page three.

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No, that's "slick" from the original Half-Life. Although there's argue that he's Magnusson. "Slick" was present in Half-Life one as a scientist model. Go play it and you'll find him. Magnusson is present in Episode Two.
 
no, the other side, far right, with no one at his other side.
 
Shoes_Buttback03 said:
Why in the picture are the lenses of Gordon's glasses reflecting light but not Kleiner's?
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Your eyes would shine too, if you would hang out in test chambers every day.

Druckles said:
Google image search for "half-life half-life photograph science team kleiner" on page three.

blackmesastaffpicture.jpg


No, that's "slick" from the original Half-Life. Although there's argue that he's Magnusson. "Slick" was present in Half-Life one as a scientist model. Go play it and you'll find him. Magnusson is present in Episode Two.
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Who/what is A.M.G? (initials in the lower left)
 
gmottl said:
no, the other side, far right, with no one at his other side.
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That's who he was talking about, 'Slick', the dark haired scientist model from HL1 - looks kind of vaguely similar to Gman anyway.
 
A.M.G. is most likely the person who painted the picture for valve during production. it's common practice for authors, no matter how small, to put there signature on their paintings. it's a whole artist thing.
 
Druckles said:
No, that's "slick" from the original Half-Life. Although there's argue that he's Magnusson. "Slick" was present in Half-Life one as a scientist model. Go play it and you'll find him. Magnusson is present in Episode Two.
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gmottl said:
no, the other side, far right, with no one at his other side.
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Laivasse said:
That's who he was talking about, 'Slick', the dark haired scientist model from HL1 - looks kind of vaguely similar to Gman anyway.
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Yes. Slick. Now stop using the word before Darkseid hears us.
 
gmottl said:
A.M.G. is most likely the person who painted the picture for valve during production. it's common practice for authors, no matter how small, to put there signature on their paintings. it's a whole artist thing.
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It's Anomalous Materials Group.
 
shit, why didn't i think of that, it's so freaking obvious, and i call this my favourite game.
 
We can't tell if he's really "good" or "bad", but he's obviously not acting in humanity's best interests, and if he's doing something "good"(such as trying to stop or demoralize the Combine's expansion), then he's taking an "end justifies the means" approach by ending billions of lives in the process.
 
at this point i don't really care, it's a kick ass series and it would be nothing without the stuff he does. good guy bad guy, interesting guy, but still creepy guy.
 
Well to be honest I didn't really give the subject much thought before seeing this thread. Like you said, regardless of his motives he'll always be a "good" character in the sense that he's well written, designed, and presented.
 
How do you know it's not in humanities best interests? For all you know it could have been the best, quickest and simplest method of getting to the goal. As we saw, the Resonance Cascade brought upon us the Combine. Looking at just the resonance cascade, you might have said it was an extremely cruel thing to do, allowing us to be attacked by waves upon waves of Xenian creatures. Sure, we suffered a lot of casualties from the Nihilanth's attacks, and brought upon the Portal Storms, but then maybe there's more to it than just Xen and the storms. Maybe the combine has been raining down destruction upon millions of other races and dimensions for eons, and it is at this time that we are best suited to destroying them. The casualties suffered in the war is insignificant compared to those casualties suffered should the Combine be allowed to reign free.

It might not be in humanities best interests, but it certainly is in the best interests of the multiverse.
 
How do you know it's not in humanities best interests?
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The fact that he wiped out most of the human population, caused a big chunk of the survivors to be turned into mindless cyborgs, and completely ruined Earth's ecosystem might have something to do with it.

It might not be in humanities best interests, but it certainly is in the best interests of the multiverse.
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Like I said, he might be taking an "ends justifies the means" approach. He's willing to sacrifice Earth and turn it into the battlefield for the sake of saving many other worlds. But as far as humans are concerned, that's not a good thing.
 
It could be. The Gman could have known the fate of humanity had he not intervened. It could have involved a severe raping and utter destruction. Earth might have been in the best shape for dealing with the Combine and the way it came about was best for everyone.

It doesn't really matter whether I'm right or wrong, because the fact is we barely know anything about the Gman or what's going on outside Earth, so we could come up with anything.
 
For all we know, the Combine could have been planning to attack Earth for a long time, and if it weren't for the portal storms and the events on Xen the invasion could have been far worse. Perhaps if they hadn't seen an example of human ingenuity and skill (eg defeating the Nihilanth) they wouldn't have bothered to take over and synth them, instead simply wiping out the species. Yes, I know there were no combine on Xen but that doesn't mean they don't know what happened there.

Conversely, perhaps it was for the sake of the vortigaunts. As a result of the resonance cascade, they were freed from the Nihilanth, gave them a temporary haven (they were apparently keen to leave Xen for some reason) and, when the combine finally did capture them, gave them another species to fight alongside them. This also ties in with the first Half-Life better than any directly involving the combine. So maybe the G-man is working for the sake of the vortigaunts...
 
I don't believe the Combine can see Xen. They certainly can't get at it.

The Combine couldn't see us until we lit up due to the portal storms.

And I don't think (due to the beginning of Episode One) that the Gman is working with the Vortigaunts.
 
Druckles said:
And I don't think (due to the beginning of Episode One) that the Gman is working with the Vortigaunts.
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Working with them doesn't mean the same as working to their benefit. The G-man never seems to show gratitude or magnanimosity towards Gordon, but the vortigaunts seem blessed by his mere presence. It's only natural that they'd try to save him after all that he's done, and they won't necessarily know who the G-man is or what he intended.
It's as valid an idea as his working to the benefit of humanity.
 
The vortigaunts, if anyone, know who the Gman is. I believe they rescued you because they knew. As I've said before, you're under a contract, and it was highly likely that your contract had ended.

Episde Two does suggest a "good" side, however.
 
a good side, i wouldnt say that, i think that since he lost control over Gorden he is just trying to make the best possible out of it in hes own interrest, reason that he told Gorden to get Alyx to white forrest safe was properbly so he could get thoose words to Eli through Alyx.
so since he lost control over Gorden, i just think that he tries to get some use out of, that Gorden is on free foot for what to say.
 
He gave me the impression of caring somewhat. Particularly his comment about "wanting to intervene", it suggested that it would benefit us somewhat.

Personally, I like the guy.
 
Dr. Freeman...
I realize this moment may not be the most convenient for a heart-to-heart, but I had to wait until your...
friends were otherwise occupied.
There was a time they cared nothing for Miss Vance;
when their only experience of humanity was a crowbar coming at them down a steel corridor.
When I plucked her from Black Mesa, I acted in the face of objections that she was a mere child and of no practical use to anyone.
I have learned to ignore such nay-sayers when quelling them...
was out of the question.
Still, I am not one to squander my investments and I remain confident she was worth far more than the initial appraisal.
That's why I must now...
extract from you some small repayment owed for your own survival.
See her safely to White Forest, Dr. Freeman.
I wish I could do more than keep an eye on you, but I have agreed to abide by certain restrictions.

just took a look at what he was saying to Gorden, the place whit fat writing
also make me think that this is what his way to have something to say in all this after the vortigaunts 'stole Gorden'?

Particularly his comment about "wanting to intervene"
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where is this comment from him, aint it in this quote from G-mans convesation?
show me what ya mean plz
 
The G-man could be some sort of mercenary contractor, retrieving beings from different universes
and selling their services to the highest bidder to fight in conflicts started by his employees (He delivered the crystal that triggered the Resonance Cascade but did not trigger it himself) But although he has the power to stop time or alter dimensions he can't do anything that would directly do harm to anyone or be reprimanded by his bosses. but he is not altruistic in saving Alyx from Black Mesa he had a way to manipulate Eli anyway he wanted to but due to not being able to directly interfere or harm anyone he had to use Alyx to warn Eli of the 'Unforeseen Consequences" and needed to use an advisor to ensure that Eli would not be able to divulge his secrets. if anything the G-man could be manipulating the Combine and the Humans to prolong the conflict between both factions, making him more money in the process.
 
(SGA) Doctorwho said:
The G-man could be some sort of mercenary contractor, retrieving beings from different universes
and selling their services to the highest bidder to fight in conflicts started by his employees (He delivered the crystal that triggered the Resonance Cascade but did not trigger it himself) But although he has the power to stop time or alter dimensions he can't do anything that would directly do harm to anyone or be reprimanded by his bosses. but he is not altruistic in saving Alyx from Black Mesa he had a way to manipulate Eli anyway he wanted to but due to not being able to directly interfere or harm anyone he had to use Alyx to warn Eli of the 'Unforeseen Consequences" and needed to use an advisor to ensure that Eli would not be able to divulge his secrets. if anything the G-man could be manipulating the Combine and the Humans to prolong the conflict between both factions, making him more money in the process.
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really interresting theory, would make good sence.
maybe thats why he wants to destroy the Borealis, because if any of them, humans or combine gets their hand on what ever inside, it will prolly end the war?
then no more money for him to make.

tho i think it seems likely, it also seems a bit odd tho
 
wrongworld said:
really interresting theory, would make good sence.
maybe thats why he wants to destroy the Borealis, because if any of them, humans or combine gets their hand on what ever inside, it will prolly end the war?
then no more money for him to make.

tho i think it seems likely, it also seems a bit odd tho
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Kinda reminds me of this movie called ghost ship. A guy that works as a "shipper" for the devil and needs to fill his quota with souls so he can ship them over to hell.
Gman does the same thing except he works for something/someone else that is in a higher position then him. and since he cant hurt anyone physically he needs to manipulate what happens in our world to make as many creatures/humans/combines as possible to lose their lives.

that shit sounded a lot better in my head though...
 
LOL, ghost ship is actually running right now in the tv :O

Dont really get how my post could remind u of that movie,
but then again so long time since i saw it i dont really rember what its all bout :cheese:
 
I hope he(or whatever hell is it) is not a bad guy.If it is, we probably have to fight with him.And I don't want to see him as a cheap boss in any game.

Really, that sucks.
 
he probably is. only a bad guy would put two guys in stasis and let one of them go into a completely changed world ( I'm talking about Gordon and Adrian)
 
i dont think hes a bad person, he just dont care for others, only for him and hes employees.
 
Hey,Adrian wasn't in stasis!
He's just floating through the void in a train cabin.
 
actually, G-man can still take him forth and into action like with gordon i think.
good chance Adrian is still the same.
 
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