Is it morally wrong to kill religious people? (read first)

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So?

Is it wrong to confine for life in solitary or kill someone who believes in any kind of religion and doesn't want to "convert" to rationalism?

Discuss please, because i'm begging to become really irritatad by religious whackjobs!

Yes i know lots of people need a bullet to the head but let's keep it to the religious idiots please.
 
no it's not ok to kill the mentally challenged ...err religious peeples

I like my solution best; they're all sent to monster island to duke it out till only one group is left still standing ..at that point they are exiled to antartica
 
No. Why would it?

That's like asking: Is it wrong to kill a person who likes donuts? Just people a person believes, or likes, something doesn't mean it's more wrong to kill them.
 
Qonfused said:
No. Why would it?

That's like asking: Is it wrong to kill a person who likes donuts? Just people a person believes, or likes, something doesn't mean it's more wrong to kill them.
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no you see...that's what i like to know? yes the whole human rights stuff...i know.


but isn't religion a threat to the well being of humans? like a virus?

remember i said the people who are not willing to accept logic under no circumstance. Do not draw lines with mentally handicapped people, thy are a different story, they do not choose to be like this!

if killing is to harsh to you then what about life solitary confiment?
 
"Is it morally wrong to kill religious people?"
You guys are saying its wrong...but you answer the question "no" as in 'No it's not morally wrong to kill them' as in "YES IT'S GOOD TO KILL THEM". I think you guys are voting the wrong thing and saying something else.
 
DeusExMachina said:
...You serious? No it's not okay, why the hell would it be :|
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because religion halts development.

i agree that killing is a bit too harsh, but exile or life imprisonment would be a better option.



if you really wan't me to put it in a better perspective...picture this:

somebody is going to shoot you to death, would you not kill him to save your life?
it's similar to religion, it's just that the latter is more slow and subtle.
 
Of course its morally wrong, FFS. You cant just ****ing kill people for having irrational beliefs, thats making it into some kind of thoughtcrime.

People like you give Atheists a bad name.
 
DEATHMASTER said:
"Is it morally wrong to kill religious people?"
You guys are saying its wrong...but you answer the question "no" as in 'No it's not morally wrong to kill them' as in "YES IT'S GOOD TO KILL THEM". I think you guys are voting the wrong thing and saying something else.
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lol, I just realized that :p
 
As much as I would like to see the extermination of religion, this is exactly the wrong way to go about it.

The moment you start policing religious thought instead of religious action (we're assuming the deadly kind here), the closer you get to totalitarianism, which is something you do not want. People have a right to their own beliefs and opinions, no matter how absurd they may be.

The problem of faith is not one that can be tackled by the legal system. It requires the willful progression of society. So while you may not be able to lock up fundamentalists and the like, you can at least marginalize them in any discussion. That's what we do with Holocaust deniers.
 
Dumb religious people need to be prohibited in spreading their religious nonsense if they do it in a hurtful way (Example: idiotic extremist islamic people). They are, however, allowed to writhe in their ignorance if they are not hurting anyone or prohibiting them to live their lives as they see fit.

In fact, that goes for everything. I'm not allowed to dictate you what to eat, but I'm allowed to think that what you are eating is pretty unhealthy. I can give factual evidence to back up my claims and then enter an argument with you, but I doubt religious people are going to find evidence for their claims. And if they do, you can always retaliate with other stuff :p
 
I don't care what religion anyone else believes in. I'm interested in what it entails in many cases, because hey - I may find its something for me. Thats how I came across agnosticism.
 
If the question was put out like, "Is it wrong to kill a religous person if their religion is to kill all non-believers, and they are very prominent in that religion...and will and plan on killing someone."

Then yes.

But as of now, no.
 
Jverne, did that Catholic priest touch you in your private spot again? Do you need a hug?
 
gick said:
Of course its morally wrong, FFS. You cant just ****ing kill people for having irrational beliefs, thats making it into some kind of thoughtcrime.

People like you give Atheists a bad name.
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dude i never said i killed someone or want to kill anybody! in fact i just said that killing someone would be to extreme. so back off, with your accusations!

although i must say i like the idea of eternal exile or put them somewhere they cannot be heard.


Absinthe, you could be just right but i doubt it would work because religious people are fond of using extreme tactics to further their cause.
you cannot use logic with a wall that is about to collapse on you.


edit:

hey pitz remember the "dangers of religious moderation" thread. even non extremist religious people would lead to bad things.


edit #2:

nemesis, i don't have nothing against mentally retarded people, i don't hate you...you didn't have a choice! you poor little thing
 
natural selection has a way of getting rid the hopelessly stupid ..so if we bide our time sooner or later the stupids will be the minority ...who's kidding whom, we're doomed
 
CptStern said:
natural selection has a way of getting rid the hopelessly stupid ..so if we bide our time sooner or later the stupids will be the minority ...who's kidding whom, we're doomed
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so 51% of US population is going to die? :angel:
 
jverne said:
Absinthe, you could be just right but i doubt it would work because religious people are fond of using extreme tactics to further their cause.
you cannot use logic with a wall that is about to collapse on you.
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Recent setbacks aside, faith is slowly but steadily being replaced by secular rationalism. The Middle East is obviously lagging behind considerably, but this is pretty much true for them in practically every regard.

Years ago, you could have argued that logic had no hopes of penetrating racism. But gradually, racists have become the minority and most of civilized society frowns upon them. Mindsets shift over time, arguably with succeeding generations. The very fact that inane "moderation" has won over fundamentalism in the West is a clear indication of this.

It is only a matter of time before religion is seen as a thing of the past. That may be fifty, a hundred, or even a thousand years from now. But it will inevitably fall, and only the most backward countries will proudly hold onto it. The most one can do in the meantime is keep bringing it up. Keep criticizing faith, keep pushing it out of the education system, and keep being vocal about your atheism. Even if most people ignore or resist it, at least some will get a clue. It's integral to keep planting the seeds of doubt.
 
To be bluntly honest, if the United States ever got into a war with another fervently religious country and we both blew the shit out of each other, that would be undeniable progress for secularism.
 
Systematic killing people because of their religion is called genocide, IIRC.

Otherwise it's homicide.
 
Well in that case I think genocide is fine, so long as you eat the remains afterwards (it's a tragic waste of life otherwise).
 
I think the question was poorly phrased, the intentional meaning was lost.

The real meaning was "If the government caused 9/11, because steel melts at a higher temperature than jet fuel burns, would killing religious people with Scalar electromagnetic weaponary be acceptable?"
 
I want them all to drop dead but it's not OK to kill them.
 
What about your Families?

Don't tell me everyone in your family is Atheist,would you like your mother or cousin to die,simply because they believe in something? You guys must be joking.
 
DAMNIT, now i voted wrong because i didnt see the "wrong" word in the question......


If extreemeist, then kill them. Otherwise i wish they would all just die by themselves (just a wish, nothing that will happen) and not necesserly be killed by someone. Or they could just be sent to some place (like monster island that Stern suggested) were they will be converted into logical thinking and rationalization. They will simply be forced to actually read the bible cover to cover so they will go "shit..this is some ****ed up shit!"

Oh and i think that the bible should have parental warning on it:

Warning, this book contains violence, death, torture, sex, obscene material, threats, hate, discrimination.

It should also be placed in the MYTHOLOGICAL section of the library.
 
By "Other" I believe that it is wrong to kill them, but I believe that if you are say, incharge of a group or wish to exclude them or TRY to convert them, but killing them is going over board... I think I should've picked 'yes'...
 
I find funny how ahteist go saying that religious people are a "treat" cuz they are against anyone that dont believe theyr fate and stuff like that

now I see atheist and religious people are not that diferent

I can see it,in the future we will see atheist churchs,and atheisth extremists
 
<RJMC> said:
I find funny how ahteist go saying that religious people are a "treat" cuz they are against anyone that dont believe theyr fate and stuff like that

now I see atheist and religious people are not that diferent

I can see it,in the future we will see atheist churchs,and atheisth extremists
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Huh?
 
Absinthe said:
Oh really? That's a very... odd comparison.
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c'mon

every time the word religion or anews realted to some religious nuthead doing something crazy people go like "religion should be exterminated""is a disease in this world" "blablabla I am cool cuz I am teh atheist blablabla"

and now stuff like "hey is morally wrong to kill religious people?""no they are religious cuz they dont think logically and blablabla"

I really see it in the future

atheisth missionary:now you believe in a god?
religious person: you cant take my faith for my lord
atheisth missionary:continue
*person prepares to activate electric chair*
religious: ok! there is no god! there is no god!
missionary: another person hav open its eyes,aaaatheism
people:aaaatheism
viewer: oh my god!
missionary:ah! blasphemer! get it!
 
Hey what do you know jvern's latest thread is incredibly retarded.

RJMC, there are many, many valid complaints about religion.
However, this is not one of them.

I can't believe I actually have to tell you people that murder is bad.

Ugh, go away.
 
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