Is it weird that I can't tell the difference between upscaled video and Hi Def?

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I watch my DVD's on my Xbox 360 elite, and I think they look just dandy. This is keeping me from buying a Blu Ray player.

Perhaps I could tell on a larger HDTV? Mine is 30". Or is the difference just not that big?
 
Really, you shouldn't care one way or another, because it's not like blu-ray gives you a hand job while you're watching the videos. Honestly, there isn't much difference. Blu-ray just has blue discs! D:
 
Acepilotf14 said:
Really, you shouldn't care one way or another, because it's not like blu-ray gives you a hand job while you're watching the videos. Honestly, there isn't much difference. Blu-ray just has blue discs! D:
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I wait for the day a movie format actually does this.
 
There's a little difference. Definitely not enough to make me consider buying all that stuff.
 
Hay guys, I can't tell the difference in VHS and DVD!
 
Personally I can tell the difference. You certain your screen is HD-ready?

I think it's a matter of taste/opinion/whatever.
 
I'm not sure if it's a matter of taste more than matter of expense. I mean, who doesn't want higher quality media?
 
But why would they bother if they can't tell the difference? I'd bother shelling out the extra ?100+ on a blu-ray player for the quality it offers.
 
TBH, I don't think it's large enough to go shell out top dollar for a blu-ray player. If you have a PS3, **** yeah, I'd feel better. But again, that's me.....still stuck in the PS2/regular DVD age.
 
Druckles said:
But why would they bother if they can't tell the difference? I'd bother shelling out the extra ?100+ on a blu-ray player for the quality it offers.
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Over here, a PS3 costs as much as a Blu-ray player. Kind of a no brainer.
 
I notice a rather significant difference in picture quality from a 480i video and a 1080p video on my HDTV. I've stopped buying DVDs and will only buy new movies in Blu-Ray (though I don't plan on replacing all my DVDs and will still watch them). Blu-Ray movies are only about $10-15 more.
 
Now, I do notice a difference between regular 480i or 480p video compared to HD resolutions, but when the Elite re-sizes it, that is when the line is blurred for me.
 
we might have the same TV. Sanyo Vizion 30" Widescreen CRT HDTV

It's not that clear of a picture, so it's no surprise you can't really tell the difference.

I use an upscaling DVD player to 720p (1080i framerate is too choppy when the scene is panning and it hurts my eyes)
 
mastag said:
I watch my DVD's on my Xbox 360 elite, and I think they look just dandy. This is keeping me from buying a Blu Ray player.

Perhaps I could tell on a larger HDTV? Mine is 30". Or is the difference just not that big?
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What hi def movie did you watch and compare with the DVD version?
Some hi def movies are using the same mediocre remastered source as the DVD and the movie itself was on film from a decade ago. Probably won't tell any difference in that example.

Now you really should look at current movies that are made with digi (hd) video cams and what they look like on DVD vs hi def. There is a noticeable difference. Also viewing distance and tv size make a difference.
 
I can easily tell the difference, but my screen is 37", so maybe that's the cause. I'd imagine on a 30" the difference would be pretty negligible unless you were sitting close. As for any other Blu-Ray naysayers, get a ****ing eye exam. I don't like playing PC games on lower than native resolution, and I'm the same for my movies.
 
It all depends on the quality of the transfer in question, the size and quality of your screen, and how close you sit to it. Blu-ray looks MUCH better than DVD, but if you're watching it on a 30" tv the differece won't be that great.
 
There is no difference between blu-ray and regular upconverted DVDs. What the hell are you people smoking and where can I get some?

The xbox actually does an excellent job upconverting standard definition video. But to say there is no difference is quite a stretch. The TV size doesn't really matter, you are still getting tripple the resolution over 480p assuming you are watching on 720p.
 
You know what else makes a big F***in difference? Dimmer lights, F*** yes.
 
VirusType2 said:
we might have the same TV. Sanyo Vizion 30" Widescreen CRT HDTV

It's not that clear of a picture, so it's no surprise you can't really tell the difference.

I use an upscaling DVD player to 720p (1080i framerate is too choppy when the scene is panning and it hurts my eyes)
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Yep, sounds like the same tv. Does yours have a lot of overscan? In other words, does it seem like some inches of the screen are "chopped off" on each side? It was pretty annoying at first.

But hey, it was cheap. I'll probably get a new one in a year or so.
 
Gladiator in HD mother****ers. If you cant tell the difference, you suck!


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EDIT: I cant tell the difference!

Well, I only watch movies on my PC so the low res movies suck when they are upscaled to full screen.
 
Not on topic, but I tried downloading and watching HD Movies on my Core 2 Duo PC, but the hard-drive lags and stutters along with the video. Sometimes, I get a message saying it's running out of virtual memory or ram..
 
To give a better perspective to this debate, which shouldn't exist in the first place, here's the second Gladiator image stretched to the same resolution as the first:

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soulslicer said:
Not on topic, but I tried downloading and watching HD Movies on my Core 2 Duo PC, but the hard-drive lags and stutters along with the video. Sometimes, I get a message saying it's running out of virtual memory or ram..
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Sounds like you need a better video card with a good video processor on it. If you already have a video card make sure your software is using hardware acceleration to generate the video.
 
Yes, I am a douche; I cant tell the difference. I even used magnifying glasses. Nothing!
 
Bit of a shit comparison when the HD shot is a PNG and the DVD shot a 32KB compress raped JPG.

Either way, HD is clearly superior but the cost doesn't justify it ATM. Plus, PAL resolution here is 720x576 so we get a little extra over 480. :P
 
Barney Fife said:
Yes, I am a douche; I cant tell the difference. I even used magnifying glasses. Nothing!
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Hell i'm a douche too, i can't tell the difference. It's not like VHS and DVD then i could easily tell but with Hi def i can't.
 
Sanada said:
Bit of a shit comparison when the HD shot is a PNG and the DVD shot a 32KB compress raped JPG.

Either way, HD is clearly superior but the cost doesn't justify it ATM. Plus, PAL resolution here is 720x576 so we get a little extra over 480. :P
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The fact it's a PNG vs Jpeg doesn't make much difference. You can clearly see the artifacts of the stretching, not the jpeg compression.

And I don't know off the top of my head how exactly PAL works but I believe the way the lines are structured you are not really getting 720x576, there is some kind of compression taking place in how the lines are rendered, don't quote me on this.

Oh well, I'm gonna drop this. I just can't believe that some people can't see the difference. I stared at my HD TV for hours in awe because of the amazing clear picture.
 
Sanada said:
Plus, PAL resolution here is 720x576 so we get a little extra over 480. :P
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That is a nice bonus. Although I'd prefer more frames than res. Smoother action and camera panning.
 
Also, Gladiator isnt the best example. I just had a screencap from it on hand. The movie came out 8 years ago, the cameras back then obviously werent as good as modern ones.
 
I see the difference. But the still image makes it seem worse than it seems when there's motion.
 
mastag said:
I watch my DVD's on my Xbox 360 elite, and I think they look just dandy. This is keeping me from buying a Blu Ray player.

Perhaps I could tell on a larger HDTV? Mine is 30". Or is the difference just not that big?
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I use to be like you, but once i saw a HD-DVD/Blu-ray at my friends house with the crazy sound. I finally saw the difference.

After that i proceeded to spend 17000 on a home theater system. NEVER going back.
 
How does Blu-Ray improve sound? I've got a home theatre system hooked up to my DVD player and it's great. I couldn't tell any difference to when i had it hooked up to the Blu-Ray player.
 
Asus said:
That is a nice bonus. Although I'd prefer more frames than res. Smoother action and camera panning.
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I do agree that more frames is better and I prefer the 29/30 FPS that NTSC offers too but why has the film industry made 24 frames the standard now? Why not 30? I guess they seem to think that is the optimal frame rate.
 
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