Is metal becoming unpopular?

[highlander]

I was just pondering this question , is liking metal becoming the case of becoming unpopular in modern day society? i like metal, mostly from the 70's too the early 90's , what are your thoughts?

 

[theotherguy]

becoming? Metal died in the early 90's and for some reason a high percentage of people listen to it on this site. I think it's coming back though, which is really a shame.

 

[highlander]

I was just saying because i was talking too a person and i said i liked metal, and they called me emo, Mind you i listen too early metallica ,pantera, tool ect , its becoming socially unpopular... or is it just me? the only reason metal is having a comeback is because of 'metal' bands like MCR and afi, and truly they suck , and everyone who listens too them are like" Omgz they are leik soo deeep with their lyrics and play instruments s0 gud, they are teh rockz0rz" :|

 

[theotherguy]

well thats because today's popular rock is shitty emo-punk. If anything though, I would say metal's popularity is growing as it enters the "oldies" category (it happens inevitably). This is starting to happen for 90's rock as well, but not too much an extent.Look, I am definatley not a metal fan, but I don't think its becoming less popular at all.

 

[highlander]

Okay, i guess everyone has their own opinions , i mean too say it was becoming socially unpopular but oh well.

 

[Que-Ever]

Yes, people are moving on to diamond now.

 

[Qonfused]

Diamond is popular now? I've been listening to wood for ages trying to fit in.

 

[Fliko]

the only reason metal is having a comeback is because of 'metal' bands like MCR and afi, and truly they suck , and everyone who listens too them are like" Omgz they are leik soo deeep with their lyrics and play instruments s0 gud, they are teh rockz0rz" :|

I LOLED and ROFLED at once.

MCR and AFI aren't quite Metal, Infact, they are pretty far away.

My question is though: Why do people care what other people listen to?
I like MCR, but so what? Its my personal preference

 

[highlander]

i never said i did, i'm just saying Every person who doesn't know alot about metal will go "oMG U LIKE AFI?" and what-not. its quite annoying. :|

 

[ComradeBadger]

Metal is and always will be the most socially awkward genre of music.

 

[Steven]

OMG GUYZ IF U LYK METAL LISTEN 2 AFI ITZ DA HARDEST METAL!!!!11111eleven

 

[Majestic XII]

You need to move to the place where metal is never going to be unpopular... Scandinavia... mostly Finland.

 

[KagePrototype]

This new crap metalcore stuff (or screamo, or whatever the **** you wanna call it) is the popular genre right now, this is why that friend of yours probably called you emo. Everything else isn't very popular right now, save for the odd band or two (metallica, rammstein, tool etc.).

 

[JNightshade]

Tool != metal. I <3 Tool. I </3 metal. Don't you DARE f*ck with my equations.

 

[Absinthe]

Tool is "Nu Metal", if you want to be pedantic.

 

[Pulse]

Good modern metal is far from dead, look at the likes of Machine Head, Down, Mastodon, Tool etc.

Of course metal is popular and unpopular amongst all kinds of people, just like any other genre. To single it out as the 'most socially awkward' form of music is a bizarre statement.

Edit to above: I'd consider Tool to be progressive metal more than anything else.

 

[ComradeBadger]

It is the most socially awkward genre of music. Just look at it's fans.

The metal kids at my uni are all ****ing wierdos, and generally shunned by all but their own kind.

 

[Pulse]

You could seem like a weirdo to them. If you base your opinion of a form of music solely on the appearance of its fans or whether or not it is acceptable amongst your own social circle then so be it.

I'll stick to listening to my heavy metal, reggae, rock, flamenc and whatever, whilst still having friends from all walks of life who aren't so judgemental

 

[Absinthe]

Edit to above: I'd consider Tool to be progressive metal more than anything else.

Regardless, they are a kind of Metal.

As for the fans... I would say socially awkward. Although it really only applies to the extreme, it's in a league of its own when compared to fanatics of other genres. Say what you will of candyflippers and wiggers, but heavy fans of metal are a social group I've found to be heavily introverted, bordering on anti-social. Such introversion isn't a result of private thought or social wariness, but a willful drive against social norms because... I dunno. **** the man? Any kind of person that thoroughly enjoys and repeatedly subjects himself to screaming and noise while engaging in passive-aggressive shit like headbanging and moshing - where the whole point seems to be coming as close as you can to killing people without making physical contact - is bound rub off on others in an awkward way.

Especially if they dress the stereotype.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

You could seem like a weirdo to them.

Third party opinion/supermajority agreement, however, changes things a bit.

It doesn't really have a lot to do with the music itself though, but socially, dealing with the thread's question, it probably has a large impact.

 

[Absinthe]

You could seem like a weirdo to them.

We live in a world of arguably intuitive truths, and quite a few of those pertain to what is normal and what is not. You'd have to delude yourself into thinking that getting a bitchin' Iron Maiden tattoo on your back and violently flailing around in a group is normal.

Hardcore metal fans are weird. They can think the same of Average Joe if they want to, but they're pretty much wrong. The mentally insane can posit that people like you and I are crazy, but the idea wouldn't hold much water, if any.

 

[ComradeBadger]

You could seem like a weirdo to them. If you base your opinion of a form of music solely on the appearance of its fans or whether or not it is acceptable amongst your own social circle then so be it.

I'll stick to listening to my heavy metal, reggae, rock, flamenc and whatever, whilst still having friends from all walks of life who aren't so judgemental

As Absinthe said, it's the extreme cases. People who dress the stereotype, act the fking stereotype, going on about how stuff is 'kreig'.

Oh, and I didn't say whether I thought it was good or not, merely that as a genre, it's socially awkward. As a genre is pretty much mostly gash, but that's another story.

 

[Pulse]

So we are comparing hardcore metal fans to those with a distinct lack of a sustainable mental capability?

Whilst I agree that the fashion trends of hardcore metal fans aren't excatly what you would call 'socially acceptable' the same can be said for hardcore punk fans, hardcore ravers and so fourth. As usual, the hardcore of anything ruin it for the rest, who quite simply want to have a good time and rock the **** out, not attempt to murder or kill anyone.

 

[Absinthe]

I don't see why people should take such offense to it, either. Metal was born as something that went against the grain. Its roots are in alienation and defying establishments. It is, by its own admission, socially awkward (not including a lot of the watered down crap that exists today).

In this case, it's just calling a spade a spade.

 

[Absinthe]

So we are comparing hardcore metal fans to those with a distinct lack of a sustainable mental capability?

I could say something cute here, like "What's the difference?", but I won't.

I don't know where you picked up accusations of mental deficiency. I know I've said nothing of the sort.

Whilst I agree that the fashion trends of hardcore metal fans isn't what you would call, socially acceptable, the same can be said for hardcore punk fans, hardcore ravers and so fourth. As usual, the hardcore of anything ruin it for the rest, who quite simply want to have a good time and rock the **** out, not attempt to murder or kill anyone.

I wouldn't say hardcore fans ruin anything. They largely exist in an entirely different sphere than those of more casual or "normal" fans.

But while I admitted that fanatics of any genre reach the point of being ridiculous, that does not mean there aren't obvious qualitative differences between them. The nature of a pill-popping raver is far more different than that of mop-haired metalhead. I'd argue that the former is a far more social creature.

 

[<RJMC>]

I hav a friend that is dead hardcore fan of heavy metal but looks like nothing related to heavy metal,if you saw him and try to guess his favortie music genre sure you will say he likes techno and that nightclubing music but his favorite style is metallica and that stuff

also he like some other who likes metal are very friendly and sociable and like every normal person so I dont get the point of soccially awkward whatever that means

 

[Absinthe]

I think a distinction needs to be made between people who enjoy metal and those that try to live it.

 

[<RJMC>]

I think a distinction needs to be made between people who enjoy metal and those that try to live it.

my friend enjoy it,in school he allways put headphones on and you could hear what he was listening

 

[Evo]

It is the most socially awkward genre of music. Just look at it's fans.

The metal kids at my uni are all ****ing wierdos, and generally shunned by all but their own kind.

*shakes head in shame*

Have i taught you nothing Badgie

 

[ComradeBadger]

*shakes head in shame*

Have i taught you nothing Badgie

See, I wouldn't call you a metal kid

Short hair, no continuous mentioning of satanism/satan/ generally trying to offend - certainly not the stereotype (which is generally well founded)

 

[Pulse]

This just in; I WORSHIP SATAN!

GWAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR

 

[Absinthe]

Does he give good benefits?

 

[Fliko]

Short hair, no continuous mentioning of satanism/satan/ generally trying to offend - certainly not the stereotype (which is generally well founded)

Thats the biggest Sterotype that I find, biggest being generally trying to offend. Usually followed b devil horns and some comment 'bout Satan, then perhaps a drink of their rum in the middle of class.

Atleast, thats what it seems to be like up here in Canada.

 

[Pulse]

Does he give good benefits?

He gives flexible mortgage rates on all housing located in and around his giant anus.

 

[knut]

EDIT: Read the rest of the thread, can't be bothered now.

 

[Evo]

See, I wouldn't call you a metal kid

Short hair, no continuous mentioning of satanism/satan/ generally trying to offend - certainly not the stereotype (which is generally well founded)

 

[knut]

I have actually yet to see a metalhead over here in the UK who is actually the full-blown stereotype of Devil-worshipping and all the other beliefs. I've seen it on TV in Norway and stuff, but never anyone I've actually met, and there's quite a few as I use to be very much into metal. Of course, they all suit the stereotype of the image correctly, but that's a whole different kettle of fish. I use to, but I've moved on now, although I do still like a few tibbits of metal (but to be more precise, it's a much broader area of what could be considered metal I listen to now)

I personally wouldn't call any of the metal fans in my area socially awkward as I know most of them and have seen most of them being energetic, freindly and well-mannered when it comes to nights out, partys and in the general area (town, etc) Personally it's the (excuse my labelling here but it's the only way) ''indie'' and ''scene/emo'' that I find to be the most ignorant, arrogant and downright annoying here.

And speaking of which, metal becoming more popular now is somewhat dwarfed by how popular things like NME preach most the time. Hell, I'd say ''skinny jeans'' or whatever the kids want to call them are probably more popular then any metal band out there today. At least here, anyway. Oh, won't the clones just open their eyes and look at the 6 people in the exact clothes next to them?

Crap, I'm rambling. Hey hum.

 

[Absinthe]

The best metal act at the moment is Tokyo Hotel.

 

[Seppo]

Metal fans are usually older and behave like people. It's the stupid emo and nu-metal kids that don't know any manners

 

[highlander]

Seppo Speaks the truth